Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p58 Chaos daemons

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**Redemption**

I've had one of my comments deleted when I commented on the new shirts sold through the Black Library site. Wasn't using any rude language or anything, just saying I didn't like any of the designs and I wished they'd sell the shirts they only sell at the events online instead.

**angelofvengeance**

Redemption wrote:
I've had one of my comments deleted when I commented on the new shirts sold through the Black Library site. Wasn't using any rude language or anything, just saying I didn't like any of the designs and I wished they'd sell the shirts they only sell at the events online instead.

I'd say that doesn't count as being positive. That sort of thing should be directed to their customer services IMO.

**tneva82**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Redemption wrote:
I've had one of my comments deleted when I commented on the new shirts sold through the Black Library site. Wasn't using any rude language or anything, just saying I didn't like any of the designs and I wished they'd sell the shirts they only sell at the events online instead.

I'd say that doesn't count as being positive. That sort of thing should be directed to their customer services IMO.

So anything but echo chamber is not ok?

That's not very useful way of building community relationship...

**commander dante**

*A faint cry of "Make Blood Angels Great Again" is heard in the distance*

But seriously, i hope they do BA next

**Waaargh**

tneva82 wrote:
angelofvengeance wrote:
Redemption wrote:
I've had one of my comments deleted when I commented on the new shirts sold through the Black Library site. Wasn't using any rude language or anything, just saying I didn't like any of the designs and I wished they'd sell the shirts they only sell at the events online instead.

I'd say that doesn't count as being positive. That sort of thing should be directed to their customer services IMO.

So anything but echo chamber is not ok?

That's not very useful way of building community relationship...

Why don't you think over that position? If part of the sentence had been left out it would change from negative critical to making a request: I like those t-shirts you sell at the events, so I would like to buy them online. When can you make it happen?

**casvalremdeikun**

commander dante wrote:
*A faint cry of "Make Blood Angels Great Again" is heard in the distance*

But seriously, i hope they do BA next

Not going to happen. They had the opportunity to improve Space Wolves Dreadnoughts, and they didn't. There is zero chance of them doing anything meaningful with Blood Angels.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Redemption wrote:
I've had one of my comments deleted when I commented on the new shirts sold through the Black Library site. Wasn't using any rude language or anything, just saying I didn't like any of the designs and I wished they'd sell the shirts they only sell at the events online instead.

could be they prune the irrelevant stuff out (assuming this was posted somewhere in the FAQ stuff that it's not relevant too)

**Neronoxx**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
commander dante wrote:
*A faint cry of "Make Blood Angels Great Again" is heard in the distance*

But seriously, i hope they do BA next
Not going to happen. They had the opportunity to improve Space Wolves Dreadnoughts, and they didn't. There is zero chance of them doing anything meaningful with Blood Angels.

Actually, all of my dreadnoughts just received +2 attacks with the latest FAQ. [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - ALPHARIUS]

**Alpharius**

RULE #1 - NOT OPTIONAL.

RULE #2 IS IMPORTANT AS WELL.

**Orock**

chaosmarauder wrote:
What garage group/FLGS/TO would not choose to use the +2 attack rule? It obviously balances out the same models with the same rule.
Seriously, I'd love to hear someone's story about how someone was jaded enough not to allow it....and then proceed to use their 4 attack space marine dread against the 2 attack one.

My jaded as hell ork army with dreads inferior to yours in every way would be fine telling you we are not using house rules.

**JimOnMars**

Orock wrote:
chaosmarauder wrote:
What garage group/FLGS/TO would not choose to use the +2 attack rule? It obviously balances out the same models with the same rule.
Seriously, I'd love to hear someone's story about how someone was jaded enough not to allow it....and then proceed to use their 4 attack space marine dread against the 2 attack one.

My jaded as hell ork army with dreads inferior to yours in every way would be fine telling you we are not using house rules.

There is that. If the BA/SW army plays CSM or Orks, then NO to the rule. If they play SM/DA then yes.

**NorseSig**

Orock wrote:
chaosmarauder wrote:
What garage group/FLGS/TO would not choose to use the +2 attack rule? It obviously balances out the same models with the same rule.
Seriously, I'd love to hear someone's story about how someone was jaded enough not to allow it....and then proceed to use their 4 attack space marine dread against the 2 attack one.

My jaded as hell ork army with dreads inferior to yours in every way would be fine telling you we are not using house rules.

I would just do to you what I do to my local ork player. Give him a boost where I can. I want a fun, epic game not a cakewalk. With the new house rule I would give ork dreads 4 attacks as well. Then again, my local ork player is a cool guy, and I like to play him even if he can only field a miniscule portion of his 100k point army.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Ork dreads already have 3 attacks base.

Then again, if with the FaQ you made it 5 base they'd get 7 attacks (8 on the charge) with 4 the Power Claw loadout, which might be a bit much.

**Talys**

NorseSig wrote:

I would just do to you what I do to my local ork player. Give him a boost where I can. I want a fun, epic game not a cakewalk. With the new house rule I would give ork dreads 4 attacks as well. Then again, my local ork player is a cool guy, and I like to play him even if he can only field a miniscule portion of his 100k point army.

Exactly this

**JimOnMars**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Ork dreads already have 3 attacks base.

Then again, if with the FaQ you made it 5 base they'd get 7 attacks (8 on the charge) with 4 the Power Claw loadout, which might be a bit much.

4 base, 5 for 2 stock 2 ccw, 7 for 2 additional ccw, 8 for charge. Sounds good to me.

**Matt.Kingsley**

JimOnMars wrote:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Ork dreads already have 3 attacks base.

Then again, if with the FaQ you made it 5 base they'd get 7 attacks (8 on the charge) with 4 the Power Claw loadout, which might be a bit much.
4 base, 5 for 2 stock 2 ccw, 7 for 2 additional ccw, 8 for charge. Sounds good to me.

Wow I failed with my maths there (should have said 8 attacks 9 on the charge with 4 power claws and +2 base attacks). I'm fine with 4 or 5 attacks base.

**NorseSig**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
JimOnMars wrote:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Ork dreads already have 3 attacks base.

Then again, if with the FaQ you made it 5 base they'd get 7 attacks (8 on the charge) with 4 the Power Claw loadout, which might be a bit much.
4 base, 5 for 2 stock 2 ccw, 7 for 2 additional ccw, 8 for charge. Sounds good to me.

Wow I failed with my maths there (should have said 8 attacks 9 on the charge with 4 power claws and +2 base attacks). I'm fine with 4 or 5 attacks base.

Yes, and it makes them a threat. Plus 4 attacks brings them in line with the other dreads (core SM ones).

**casvalremdeikun**

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1635011190152847&substory_index=0&id=1575682476085719
Just a heads up, per the Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page, all Blook Angels, Grey Knights, and Space Wolves Dreadnoughts get 2 added to their Attack characteristic. They said this was in response to fans requesting the optional rule be made errata. So we CAN make a difference!

pic added for work blocked, Reds8n

**Requizen**

Listening to the community is a very good step in the right direction.

**Vankraken**

GW just opened Pandora's Box. Incoming walls of rules change suggestions.

**BrookM**

Now, can we have Lumbering Behemoth back?

**casvalremdeikun**

Vankraken wrote:
GW just opened Pandora's Box. Incoming walls of rules change suggestions.

That was basically what the FAQ was in the first place.

**Nevelon**

A victory for angry washing machines everywhere! Glad to see this. Not just because dreads are an iconic part of the lore and need to be treated a bit better. But it shows that GW is open to actually errataing things that need to be fixed, rather then just ignoring problems until they re-do the codex in 2-15 years.

**MechaEmperor7000**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1635011190152847&substory_index=0&id=1575682476085719
Just a heads up, per the Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page, all Blook Angels, Grey Knights, and Space Wolves Dreadnoughts get 2 added to their Attack characteristic. They said this was in response to fans requesting the optional rule be made errata. So we CAN make a difference!

pic added for work blocked, Reds8n

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

My all-space wolves dread army just got 50% more awesome. 6-attack Bjorn with Trueclaw anyone? :3

**casvalremdeikun**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1635011190152847&substory_index=0&id=1575682476085719
Just a heads up, per the Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page, all Blook Angels, Grey Knights, and Space Wolves Dreadnoughts get 2 added to their Attack characteristic. They said this was in response to fans requesting the optional rule be made errata. So we CAN make a difference!

pic added for work blocked, Reds8n

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

My all-space wolves dread army just got 50% more awesome. 6-attack Bjorn with Trueclaw anyone? :3

In my case, a Furioso Dreadnought was just re-added to my Blood Angels list. I may even decide to use Cassor the Damned now. 5-attack Angry Washing Machine of Doom here we come!

**pretre**

Hey folks,
Last week, as part of our ongoing FAQ draft process, we published a new optional rule for Dreadnoughts of the Blood Angels, Space Wolves and Grey Knights Chapters.

So many of you got in touch saying that you'd certainly be using the new rule that we've decided to make it an official Errata.

The rest of the finalised FAQs and Errata will be on the way once we have your feedback on all the drafts, but we wanted to get this to you so you could all have fun smashing stuff with your Dreadnoughts while you waited.

Once again, thanks for all your help making the game of Warhammer 40,000 even better.

Wow. This one is official, unlike the rest.

**Vankraken**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
Vankraken wrote:
GW just opened Pandora's Box. Incoming walls of rules change suggestions.
That was basically what the FAQ was in the first place.

The difference now is people have evidence that GW actually listened and made a rules change based on community feedback instead of making rules decisions from the rules department ivory tower (its either a tower or they meet inside the replica Rhino they have parked on the lot).

**Uriels_Flame**

Let's be happy and continue the trend!

Life is good

**ShieldBrother**

Murderfang with an average of 11 attacks on the charge. Sweet.

GW is doing the right thing. Now do the same or deff dreads, forgefiends, helbrutes and any other walker dread-like thing.

Now that they've shown initiative to actually errata stuff to make it better, I wonder if we'll see any more changes. Point reductions, new wargear, etc. God knows some armies need it!

**Kirasu**

Lol poor CSM, no upgrade for their terrible dreads.