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 Ghaz wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
... ongoing discussion in News & Rumours. FAQ can be found HERE.

Skitarii & Cult Mechanicus FAQs HERE.

Militarum Tempestus Scions, Inquisition, Adeptus Sororitas and Officio Assassinorum HERE.

Imperial Knights, Genestealer Cults and Deathwatch HERE.

New FAQs added.

Minor thing - its Adepta Sororitas

 Charistoph wrote:
The alliance level of the Cult with the Tyranids was changed from Battle Brothers to Allies of Convenience. This has been pointed out as a contradiction with the original document.

Where was this stated? Its not in the downloadable Deathwatch Overkill datasheets?

Whoo : )

No idea why but BS0 can shoot again as long as you don't require to hit.

 oldzoggy wrote:
Whoo : )

No idea why but BS0 can shoot again as long as you don't require to hit.

Meaning a Jinking Biker Librarian can still use Psychic Shriek. Dark Angel's and White Scars rejoice!

Jinking doesn't give you BS0, it gives you snapshots. The FAQ didn't say that snapshots can shoot weapons that hit automatically, it said that ballistic skill 0 can still use psychic shriek as long as they don't have to roll to hit. Snapshots will still prevent you from using psychic shriek.

 NightHowler wrote:
Jinking doesn't give you BS0, it gives you snapshots. The FAQ didn't say that snapshots can shoot weapons that hit automatically, it said that ballistic skill 0 can still use psychic shriek as long as they don't have to roll to hit. Snapshots will still prevent you from using psychic shriek.

Damn. Oh well. One less tactic to be used AGAINST me.

BTW, I have a quandary for the group. Can I take Gerantius in an Oathsworn detachment? I want that magnificent bastard in my high points army.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:
The alliance level of the Cult with the Tyranids was changed from Battle Brothers to Allies of Convenience. This has been pointed out as a contradiction with the original document.

Where was this stated? Its not in the downloadable Deathwatch Overkill datasheets?

WD said something to the effect that Genestealer Cults ally in the same manner as Tyranids. A lot of people assumed that meant Battle Brothers. I thought it meant CtA with everyone, including 'Nids. Turns out we were all wrong.

An interesting comment from GW:

Once you guys have fed back on all of them, well get you official ones.
We'll be trying to get you at least one codex FAQ draft a week.

which means we won't see any of the "official" ones until we cycle through all of the rough drafts. Probably not for a few months yet.

 JimOnMars wrote:
An interesting comment from GW:

Once you guys have fed back on all of them, well get you official ones.
We'll be trying to get you at least one codex FAQ draft a week.

which means we won't see any of the "official" ones until we cycle through all of the rough drafts. Probably not for a few months yet.

Well they pretty much knocked out all the little ones.
I'm assuming they will likely combine harlequins with dark eldar or eldar.
And combine the supplements (sentinels of terra, waaagh ghaz etc) with thier parent codex.
This now leaves the major codexs to be reviewed next and that should take at least 12 weeks with at least a major codex or two a week. Seeing the complaining about some of the current rules clarifications I fully expect much tears to commence starting next week with the major codex faqs.
Orks+plus supplements
Necrons
Space marines+ supplements
Tyranids
Blood Angels/dark Angels
Space wolves/greyknights
Chaos space marines
Chaos demons/korne demonkin
Eldar+ supplements
Dark Eldar/harlequin
Astra militarum
Tau+ supplements

The BB answer is also contradictory to how the staff where playing it; I assume that GS cults got changed in codex production. Hopefully we see a full alliance chart for them soon...

They probably chose allies of convenience to stop any unforeseen shenanigans since they got pretty burned already by going BB with other factions.

Battle brothers doesn't mean as much as it used to before the FAQs. It's basically AoC with the ability to deploy closer together now.

BTW, can anyone give me a brief rundown or link the rulings? I can't access FB while at work.

 Kriswall wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:
The alliance level of the Cult with the Tyranids was changed from Battle Brothers to Allies of Convenience. This has been pointed out as a contradiction with the original document.

Where was this stated? Its not in the downloadable Deathwatch Overkill datasheets?

WD said something to the effect that Genestealer Cults ally in the same manner as Tyranids. A lot of people assumed that meant Battle Brothers. I thought it meant CtA with everyone, including 'Nids. Turns out we were all wrong.

That would be ignoring the fact that Tyranids are Battle Brothers with themselves, though. Hence the kerfuffle.

I see that all of my stances on the Imperial Questions were validated. /bow

SJ

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
I see that all of my stances on the Imperial Questions were validated. /bow

SJ

After that post I see that all of my stances on SJ being a git were validated. /bow

I really didn't see any clarification in the OSC vs Knights interaction. I understand (pre-FAQ) that a Knight must put its shield on the rear armor to protect against the OSC shots. Did the FAQ change that? Or did it validate my view?

 Vector Strike wrote:
I really didn't see any clarification in the OSC vs Knights interaction. I understand (pre-FAQ) that a Knight must put its shield on the rear armor to protect against the OSC shots. Did the FAQ change that? Or did it validate my view?

If I remember the question right, it was treating it like Melee Attacks against Vehicles. You can be shooting from the Front (and thus be affected by the Shield), but the Armour Penetration Roll is against the Knight's Rear Armour Value.

 Dramagod2 wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
I see that all of my stances on the Imperial Questions were validated. /bow

SJ

After that post I see that all of my stances on SJ being a git were validated. /bow

Sorry, small typo, I meant Imperial Knight questions. GW ruled exactly as I have advocated in this forum on how to deal with Sanctuary and Barrage, and by extention OSC, amoung other questions.

For the record, they ruled against my interpretation of other rules, it's just that I apparently got the IK ones right.

SJ

 Vector Strike wrote:
I really didn't see any clarification in the OSC vs Knights interaction. I understand (pre-FAQ) that a Knight must put its shield on the rear armor to protect against the OSC shots. Did the FAQ change that? Or did it validate my view?

If the shots in question originate from the front or sides of the Knight, the shield will protect if it is covering that arc. If the shot gets through, it then hits the rear armour.

Seems simple

One question I had about these FAQ's: if GW is bothering to do FAQ's for Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch, does that mean that they are getting an actual codex of some sort soon?

I'm surprised no one has really hit on the changes to knights. While the sanctuary thing was a coin tossdue to bad wording, it's not a huge deal. WHat is a pretty big deal though is the way their weapon arcs are streated now. No more 45 degrees front arcs. We now have full sponson coverage plus a guaranteed 360 on the carapce mounted weapons. That massively opens up the potential targets for knights.

Granted its not that huge for people who include one, but anyone who runs knight formations or uses them as their primary will see an exponential difference in performance, I think.

It was already covered in the draft rulebook FAQ< however. This covgered superheavy walkers in general

 oldzoggy wrote:
Whoo : )

No idea why but BS0 can shoot again as long as you don't require to hit.

I mean, lore/practically speaking, if you don't have to hit something, you don't really have to aim. So then all you have to do is pull a trigger or whatever. Anything can do that! Psychick shriek is just yelling super loud with your brain. It's kind of silly to think about, "whoops, accidentally missed that dude and yelled at a rock again, dag nabit!"

I am most excited about knights having sponson mounted weapons. Though I am sure that some dude is going to say that the FAQ was only for imperial knights, and my renegade and daemon knights do not have sponson weapons.... Any who, it makes me less worried about the arms rotating mid game, as mine are magnetized.
All the Tyranid players I know are about to riot, the same players who complained about invisibility being broken and should be removed from the game, are now complaining that they can no longer have invisible carnifex broods. I just don't get people.

The issue with BS0 is that it means you cannot make a range attack. Can't throw, can't aim, can't target. The GW ruling is a patch to cover up their error in granting the Genestealer Primarch both Psychic Shriek and BS0.

SJ

Sorry I missed the 'Tank Shocking conversation earlier. Tank shocking is not useless...

Tank shocking is a rare occasion that was eluded to that can force an enemy unit move during your player turn movement phase, therefore reducing salvo fire shots incurred during overwatch.

Also if carefully aimed can move the enemy unit closer to your assaulting unit or helping your rapid fire weapons get into range.

Tank shock has always been a way to group enemy models for friendlies to shoot and/or drop templates on. The fact that rules existed that allowed us to use Tank Shock to remove enemy models is the only reason why the topic keeps popping up. The surprise in GW's ruling is that the author of the FAQ appears go have failed to read their own rules, not just with this ruling but with many others. Be that as it may, Tank Shock still works as intended, the FAQ does not address what happens when a unit's models are forced out of coherency due to a well placed Tank Shock, forcing the enemy unit to break and fall back into friendlies, which eliminates the enemy unit.

Hopefully GW will read their own rules before "clarifying" massive rule changes via a late to the game FAQ.

SJ

Have there been any answers as to if Conversion Fields affect the unit they are contain in with a Blind test? (Since blind says if a unit hits itself it auto passes.... But does a save count as a hit..?)

 Ghaz wrote:
... ongoing discussion in News & Rumours. FAQ can be found HERE.

Skitarii & Cult Mechanicus FAQs HERE.

Militarum Tempestus Scions, Inquisition, Adeptus Sororitas and Officio Assassinorum HERE.

Imperial Knights, Genestealer Cults and Deathwatch HERE.

Daemonkin, Legion of the Damned and Blood Oath FAQs HERE

Next batch of FAQs added.

I loved the Immolator question. By asking how many models may shoot from the Immolator's top hatch, and getting an answer of 1 model, GW has errata'd a fire point for the Immolator, a thing that has not existed in the game since the Witch Hunter codex was replaced.

Good going GW! Not reading your own rules worked for us for a change!

SJ

 Ghaz wrote:
... ongoing discussion in News & Rumours. FAQ can be found HERE.

Skitarii & Cult Mechanicus FAQs HERE.

Militarum Tempestus Scions, Inquisition, Adepta Sororitas and Officio Assassinorum HERE.

Imperial Knights, Genestealer Cults and Deathwatch HERE.

Daemonkin, Legion of the Damned and Blood Oath FAQs HERE

Codex Space Marines FAQ HERE

Codex Space Marines added!