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Exceptional reviews Sir, this is now my favourite thread in all of the Dakka forums. Keep it up.

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I miss my 2nd edition Slann army...

Lobotomised human slaves, Pygmies and Slann... those were the days...


...and my amazons with Bolt Pistols in fantasy...

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Please keep on going. This thread is sooo great!
   
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Olympia, WA

I could go dig many of these books up from my basement, but it's way more entertaining to read your reviews. Bravo.

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Can I make a request to maybe see the bit about the Assassins?

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I was very pleased in 2002 when I found this game where many of the playable characters - Xavier, Macharius, Naaman, Cortez - appeared posthumously.

It's not the same as not being missed, but it's not worse.
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
I still like the typo on the armory page - the Marco Cannon.

Makes me wonder who was going to turn up with a Polo Shield to defend themselves from it...



Thank the Emperor that I wasn't the only one thinking along the "Marco"..."Polo" lines when I saw that!
   
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Upstate, New York

With all the mining of RT by GW/FW for all their stuff these days, I’m surprised the Marco cannon hasn’t found it’s way onto a knight or some other big unit; typo and all. Seems the kind of throwback joke they’d make.

   
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Hyderabad, India

Part 6, I think?

& we're back with the last and final chapter of the award-seeking Retro Review series!

After covering such gripping and completely necessary topics as 'Plant chart 3' and 'Rippy Fish from the death world of Lost Hope' Rogue Trader gives us our first peek at a detailed setting.



Logan's World is a lost world on the edge of the Eye of Terror (again I am AMAZED how many elements of the setting appear in this book!).



From time to time the eye 'blinks' and it is possible to reach these lost world and for a time bring them the brutal order of the Imperium. If only for a few days.




With some great art, in just a few pages Rogue Trader brings the world to life detailing the bus gangs who provide the only safe transport across the wastelands, the water sellers who everyone must deal with and of course the slaver gangs.



Who are so obviously riding around in Robotech toys with the torso cut off it isn't even funny.

The book ends with a hodgepodge of rules clarifications, suggestions and of course great fluff.

There's nine pages of random charts for creating scenarios and subplots including such gems as "Prior to the outbreak of hostilities the area was visited by Dr Gostello's Amazing Intergalactic Psycho-circus. The circus has now got caught up in the fight..."

Wow.

I want to write a novel just plotting it using these charts.

And to no one's surprise there's a section on buying models.



Yep.

"Citadel Miniatures have long been known as the foremost producer of metal gaming miniatues..."

There's a reason this game is still making money while Star Frontiers ain't.



I don't which I love more, the terrain (cardboard tubes with construction paper wrapped around them) or that guy's hair.



Just again to show how much lighting in a bottle this book had, here's a 2 page spread, with just 4 paragraphs to give it context, that led to a whole army being created 10+ years later.



I have no idea what is going on here, Is that space ship landing on a building? It seems decayed, is it some old hulk a city grew around? Who's shooting at the Space Marines? What's that flying platform?

I don't know the answers, but I'd love to find out.

And then we have this...





OK the Perry twins are easy to pick out, anyone care to ID the rest?

And finally the book ends with a handy cardboard section with pull out charts and, oh, these guys.



Everything you need to play Battle in the Farm.

I am so tempted to clip them out, add in the cardboard dreadnaught from 2nd edition and show up at a GW store.

So tempted.

Anyway some closing thoughts...

Wow this book is a hot mess. All sorts of granular details for a wargame, but at the same time it assumes a GM to run all sorts of NPCs and scenario rules. It supposed to be a mini game, but your models' equipment is determined randomly. It covers everything from robots to dinosaurs to fighter planes to interdimensional demons in one book.

It spends 10 pages on the Imperium's bureaucracy!

It's sort of a wargame, sort of an RPG and sort of a fluff bible for would-be writers.

Yet somehow it paints such a compelling and interesting fictional universe people, like me, keep coming back to it despite the rules.

I would say that Rogue Trader is really a case of getting everything (except the rules) right. The design, the art, the attitude, the shameless Tolkien meets Herbert for drinks at Lovecraft's house... This book is just awesome. Add in the two Realms of Chaos books and I think you have some of the best gaming materials ever created. No wonder they're still mining it 30 years later!

And of course while I criticize GW for not knowing what sort of game they were writing, that may be a strength. Consider later books, they don't have sections on carnivorous plants or Imperial clerks, because they don't need them. They offer up soldiers and more soldiers. And that makes the game poorer.

If you don't have a copy of Rogue Trader, think about getting it. Prices don't seem to be too crazy, I see it on ebay now for 10UKP.

And if you get the chance lobby GW for putting out PDFs of this and other classic books. They are gorgeous, they are interesting and they should be back in print.

Anyway thanks everyone for the kind words, I will be doing more of these, my next one will probably be my favorite White Dwarf issue of all time. One that's already cost me a few hundred dollars. So stay tuned.

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I would say they get everything (except the rules) right.


Just like Eldar craftworlds, Space Wolves, Sister Soritas and Catachan as a deathworld, somethings haven't changed much from RT days.


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The scenario charts in the back remain my favorite part of the book. Give five or six players a tiny, tiny force and a random objective, and you've got an evening of fun, even with the steaming mess the current rules have become.

Now showing various models from the previously adandoned projects!

Painting total as of 3429/2024: 56 plus a Deva King statue
Painting total as of 12/31/2024: 107 plus a set of modular spaceship terrain and two walkers and a quad mech and five giants



 
   
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Thanks for getting back to this. I still have both of my copies of this book.
   
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Hyderabad, India

If you liked this book check out Tony Hough's gallery on Facebook.

A lot of classic Rogue Trader art (including Chapter Approved, Adeptus Titanicus, Siege and even Space Fleet), some unpublished stuff and some great behind the scenes comments.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.571774852850644.90255427.169096993118434&type=3&pnref=story

 
   
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That's too cool. Thanks! Some of that I don't remember ever seeing.
   
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Currently the #2 most popular thread on Dakka

 
   
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I don't even KNOW anymore.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:





OK the Perry twins are easy to pick out, anyone care to ID the rest?


Let's see... first page, upper right looks like Nick Bibby. The couple chained by the necks are Trish and Aly (so I've heard). Reverse-Mohawk dude with sunglasses is Blanche. "Boo" guy is Rick Priestly. "J" guy is, of course, Jervis.

Second page is tough - as you said, the Perrys are obvious. A lot of the faces tickle my memory, but can't be sure.
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Currently the #2 most popular thread on Dakka


I honestly can't think what could be more popular !

Other than a certain DCM thread..

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Again: I love this retro review! So many good memories.
   
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Speaking of the random scenario generator

The Lead Plague blog has a contest going to create one of the reoccuring charcters from it - that conniving rogue Abdul Goldberg!



'Abdul Goldberg stole your ship off you -the poker game was rigged and your sure he put something in your drink. Your crew are unhappy - having been turfed from their ship together with their possessions. The ship and its new crew leaves tonight - unless you can steal it back!'


http://leadplague.blogspot.fr/2016/05/abdul-goldberg.html

And more

http://theleadpile.blogspot.fr/2014/04/the-mysterious-case-of-abdul-goldberg.html

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 Pacific wrote:
This makes me want to collect a load of RT marines and Orks and then play Battle for the Farm...


It works as a narrative game, but not as a balanced skirmish. The Orks don't have a proper numerical advantage and the Marines have better stats, better armour, better weapons and start the game hunkered-down behind hard cover (whilst the orks have to meander across an open field to get to them). It could be fun, but the Orks are never going to win... though they can stop the Marines from winning whenever they want to, simply by hitting the "call for reinforcements" button and forcing a draw.

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