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 Rygnan wrote:
Can't remember if it's been mentioned earlier in the thread, but when I pre-ordered my General's Handbook I was told that it's a long pre-order, and will be available on the 23rd (don't quote me on this, might have been the 16th) and not next week with the Sylvaneth

Yeah it says on the website that it'll ship on the 23rd.

Kurnoth Hunters are rather big... 50mm bases for those lads

Apparently this is a popular release; basically everything is temporarily out of stock on the NZ site.

 Medium of Death wrote:
Do the old Wood Elf, or "Wanderers" models fit into this release at all?

I expected to see the Wild Riders included in this, or have the tree and elf segments been separated totally?

They are different factions, and in fact don't like each other much at all since the End Times.

Tricksy GW is hiding the 'How to Paint' videos behind a tab now. Maybe that's what crashed their website last night for several hours

Has anybody heard whether forge world is going to add a generals handbook points page for legion of azghor and tamurkhans horde? Afaik, they are not listed in the printed book.

fattdex wrote:
Has anybody heard whether forge world is going to add a generals handbook points page for legion of azghor and tamurkhans horde? Afaik, they are not listed in the printed book.

They are

 Mymearan wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
Do the old Wood Elf, or "Wanderers" models fit into this release at all?

I expected to see the Wild Riders included in this, or have the tree and elf segments been separated totally?

They are different factions, and in fact don't like each other much at all since the End Times.

Why is that?

Blame for not defending the forest realm and/or letting it's doom come about. Some domestic disturbances and now big A, she's back with a vengeance

Just out of curiosity

Pre-Orders are up and on the GW site I can order all new stuff as 1-click package.
The german one for 250€, the englisch one for 290.

But why to pay 40€ more for the original version?

@VeteranNoob, ^ Pretty much this. The wanderers retreated when the tides of Nurgle's hordes fell upon the life realm where as the Sylvaneth stood firm. (You'd stand firm too if you weren't made of flesh that can contract the flood of diseases coming your way)

Though to be fair, the treefolk always hated the wood elves. In the old world it was a very uneasy relationship that saw the elves as intruders but for the greater protection of Athel Loren the spirits accepted it. (They're helpless during winter and needed the elves.)

The wanderers have it better now, imo. No more summon the demigod rituals where someone at random gets to be burned alive at the end of the year and they can explore all the natural wonders of the realms without being tied down to a forest that partially wants to kill them all.

 kodos wrote:
Just out of curiosity

Pre-Orders are up and on the GW site I can order all new stuff as 1-click package.
The german one for 250€, the englisch one for 290.

But why to pay 40€ more for the original version?

At the risk of dragging politics into this, I'd blame Farage and his army of mouth breathers(for pretty much anything in the next few years) But yeah that is proper odd. Still its a heck of a release and GW just got a fair chunk of my cash with it.

Well i see a chunk of the new Sylvaneth stuff is already sold out on the UK site. Got my Alrielle from another seller for a good discount. But it's nice to see it's getting a popular reaction like the Orruks did.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Well i see a chunk of the new Sylvaneth stuff is already sold out on the UK site. Got my Alrielle from another seller for a good discount. But it's nice to see it's getting a popular reaction like the Orruks did.

At this point everything is sold on in Australia as well, except for the Branchwych.

GW must be happy about that!

mhsellwood wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Well i see a chunk of the new Sylvaneth stuff is already sold out on the UK site. Got my Alrielle from another seller for a good discount. But it's nice to see it's getting a popular reaction like the Orruks did.

At this point everything is sold on in Australia as well, except for the Branchwych.

GW must be happy about that!

I'm happy about that. I'm loving these new releases and the book is a damn good price too. I'll be picking that up in a bit too.

Hm, I remember reading on the tropes wiki back at the beginning of the year that the Sylvaneth were the ensemble dark horse of AoS as they were more popular and outsold the other AoS factions(before Orruks arrived) despite not being very prominent in the lore.

I guess this proves them right!

Baron Klatz wrote:
@VeteranNoob, ^ Pretty much this. The wanderers retreated when the tides of Nurgle's hordes fell upon the life realm where as the Sylvaneth stood firm. (You'd stand firm too if you weren't made of flesh that can contract the flood of diseases coming your way)

Though to be fair, the treefolk always hated the wood elves. In the old world it was a very uneasy relationship that saw the elves as intruders but for the greater protection of Athel Loren the spirits accepted it. (They're helpless during winter and needed the elves.)

The wanderers have it better now, imo. No more summon the demigod rituals where someone at random gets to be burned alive at the end of the year and they can explore all the natural wonders of the realms without being tied down to a forest that partially wants to kill them all.

This is the case but I could see them fighting together since they have a common cause. Now the grand alliance order book does note that they do not hate them but there is a small rift due to the fact they are not connected to nature as they are. Considering they worship the same god and wanderers want to spread life magic to all the realms I doubt the goddess of life considering her personality would not mind them fighting together.

Hell she needs all the help she can get if she wants to get rid of nurgle.

mhsellwood wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Well i see a chunk of the new Sylvaneth stuff is already sold out on the UK site. Got my Alrielle from another seller for a good discount. But it's nice to see it's getting a popular reaction like the Orruks did.

At this point everything is sold on in Australia as well, except for the Branchwych.

GW must be happy about that!

Indeed I bet GW are pretty happy at the moment.

Baron Klatz wrote:
@VeteranNoob, ^ Pretty much this. The wanderers retreated when the tides of Nurgle's hordes fell upon the life realm where as the Sylvaneth stood firm. (You'd stand firm too if you weren't made of flesh that can contract the flood of diseases coming your way)

Though to be fair, the treefolk always hated the wood elves. In the old world it was a very uneasy relationship that saw the elves as intruders but for the greater protection of Athel Loren the spirits accepted it. (They're helpless during winter and needed the elves.)

The wanderers have it better now, imo. No more summon the demigod rituals where someone at random gets to be burned alive at the end of the year and they can explore all the natural wonders of the realms without being tied down to a forest that partially wants to kill them all.

To be fair...

It wasn't "the Treefolk" that hated the Wood Elves. It was Coeddil and Drycha, his Handmaiden, and their respective followers who felt that the Asrai were usurpers. The actual spirits of Athel Loren(seen in "Orion" series) were pretty okay with the Asrai, so long as they made an effort to balance the scales of give and take.

I am currently reading the season of war fluff and it states that Alarielle raised the first city using her life magic. She knew that sylvaneth are not ones to hang around in a town so she offered it to her mortal allies in return for acting as wardens for her city and the forest.

I suspect many wanderers took up that offer. Plus many stormcasts are guarding the cities along with aelves and free people while the devoted of sigmar are cleansing the lands of nurgles corruption. They also do note many other cities are set up in the realm of metal and beasts. Considering the rules for wanderers and sylvaneth the synergy will be nuts

 shinros wrote:
I am currently reading the season of war fluff and it states that Alarielle raised the first city using her life magic. She knew that sylvaneth are not ones to hang around in a town so she offered it to her mortal allies in return for acting as wardens for her city and the forest.

I suspect many wanderers took up that offer. Plus many stormcasts are guarding the cities along with aelves and free people while the devoted of sigmar are cleansing the lands of nurgles corruption. They also do note many other cities are set up in the realm of metal and beasts. Considering the rules for wanderers and sylvaneth the synergy will be nuts

That is interesting to hear, but what happen to the Dispossessed?

 Nova_Impero wrote:

 shinros wrote:
I am currently reading the season of war fluff and it states that Alarielle raised the first city using her life magic. She knew that sylvaneth are not ones to hang around in a town so she offered it to her mortal allies in return for acting as wardens for her city and the forest.

I suspect many wanderers took up that offer. Plus many stormcasts are guarding the cities along with aelves and free people while the devoted of sigmar are cleansing the lands of nurgles corruption. They also do note many other cities are set up in the realm of metal and beasts. Considering the rules for wanderers and sylvaneth the synergy will be nuts

That is interesting to hear, but what happen to the Dispossessed?

Oh yeah on nagash no one knows what the hell he is doing. He is a big question mark at the moment he has been attacking both sides the forces of order don't know if the undead are moving to his will or their own but they don't see much difference.

For those who haven't seen, the season of war stuff is up in the Sigmar App, in the same place as tge FAQs.

 shinros wrote:

 Nova_Impero wrote:

 shinros wrote:
I am currently reading the season of war fluff and it states that Alarielle raised the first city using her life magic. She knew that sylvaneth are not ones to hang around in a town so she offered it to her mortal allies in return for acting as wardens for her city and the forest.

I suspect many wanderers took up that offer. Plus many stormcasts are guarding the cities along with aelves and free people while the devoted of sigmar are cleansing the lands of nurgles corruption. They also do note many other cities are set up in the realm of metal and beasts. Considering the rules for wanderers and sylvaneth the synergy will be nuts

That is interesting to hear, but what happen to the Dispossessed?

Oh yeah on nagash no one knows what the hell he is doing. He is a big question mark at the moment he has been attacking both sides the forces of order don't know if the undead are moving to his will or their own but they don't see much difference.

I wonder if we will get more information on Nagash plan in All-Gate then, since that is the season finale in a way.

Yeah I suspect so after listening to the recent audio drama I am just wondering what Nagash is planning.

Oh piece of advice for the love of god and all that is the god of spooky don't let chaos or destruction win.

It's clear what chaos wants to do with the cities and well destruction? Do I need to say anything else? If Death wins I suspect interesting fluff development(undead fluff is rarely bad and we finally get to see what the hell nagash is doing and planning) if order wins the cities will flourish and stay I suspect going by the end of the season of war which is also good.

Agreed.

 shinros wrote:
Yeah I suspect so after listening to the recent audio drama I am just wondering what Nagash is planning.

Oh piece of advice for the love of god and all that is the god of spooky don't let chaos or destruction win.

It's clear what chaos wants to do with the cities and well destruction? Do I need to say anything else. If Death wins I suspect interesting fluff development if order wins the cities will flourish and stay I suspect going by the end of the season of war.

Yeah, see, I really... really want Chaos to have a foothold on one of the cities. Preferrably the one that Alarielle raised. In the name of Tzeentch, and not filthy Nurgle.

I'm sure we can come to a few negotiations. Tzeentch need not be an enemy here....

Trade some secrets and all that.

Missed the pre order on big beetle so I'll have to grab one from eBay instead.

Managed to grab some other stuff though before it went out of stock

Selling off some 30k to fund a new army now :p

 Lou_Cypher wrote:

 shinros wrote:
Yeah I suspect so after listening to the recent audio drama I am just wondering what Nagash is planning.

Oh piece of advice for the love of god and all that is the god of spooky don't let chaos or destruction win.

It's clear what chaos wants to do with the cities and well destruction? Do I need to say anything else. If Death wins I suspect interesting fluff development if order wins the cities will flourish and stay I suspect going by the end of the season of war.

Yeah, see, I really... really want Chaos to have a foothold on one of the cities. Preferrably the one that Alarielle raised. In the name of Tzeentch, and not filthy Nurgle.

I'm sure we can come to a few negotiations. Tzeentch need not be an enemy here....

Trade some secrets and all that.

True all the gods are interested in the cities according to the season of war well it depends how GW handles the fluff for chaos if they get a foot hold. The thing is though we have no idea really what nagash is planning or what the undead are doing in general. After the recent audio drama my head is just buzzing wondering what nagash's game plan is.

Can someone answer a quick question about the General's Handbook for me? I have searched the last 10 pages of posts, but can't find any information.

I have a Dwarf army from the early 2000s, (Gyrocopter, Organ Gun, etc.) -- does the General's Handbook contain point values for the classic Dwarf units (i.e. - released from before AoS)?

Basically, will I be able to play in point value-defined tournaments with my classic WHFB Dwarf models?

Thanks! Mez

Yes, you will. They are under the "Compendium" lists.