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I'm currently trying to find a way to get a mage in my Stormcast list. Ran a team game with Sylv and had the Liberators with Mystic Shield... OMG. Unit of 15 lasted all game long.

The Ironjawz set is unusual, why 10 Ardboyz when they're sold in bosex of 15?

 Imateria wrote:
The Ironjawz set is unusual, why 10 Ardboyz when they're sold in bosex of 15?

Why not?

A number of get starting boxes sell less than the single box size: Chaos knights 5 vs 10 and warriors 12 vs 16, saurus 12 vs 20 etc.

10 is the minimum unit size so it makes sense as a starting size, they are basically free so no reason for GW to throw in extra sprues, and I expect people will get the box for the Gruntas which are only £2 less than the box price on their own.

@Uriels_Flame, That's why a pure Stormcast army is so magic lacking.

 Bottle wrote:
I'm pretty sure the fluff around the existing Elf ranges (as well as the Empire and traditional Dwarfs) is just GW throwing us a bone to keep players with existing armies happy. Bittersweet as I am an "Empire" player.

If the old Pheonix Guard is fleshed out into a new faction as the campaign suggests they might, I will happily eat my own words, but right now I don't imagine a single Dark Elf to be used in the Shadowkin, just like none of the elves from the Wood Elf range were used in the Sylvaneth faction.

We'll have to wait and see what happens but I'm betting on all the old factions sticking around and becoming what Orruks are to Ironjaws. (So Shadowkin will be assassin elites with Exiles (dark elves) filling out the ranks.)

Empire is my only concern but who knows what they plan with the Free People.

About the releases, my only gripe is that I was hoping the Fyreslayers got thrown a bone with new Starter sets. Though with two Order ones among the five I can see that would've unbalanced things.

puree wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
The Ironjawz set is unusual, why 10 Ardboyz when they're sold in bosex of 15?

Why not?

A number of get starting boxes sell less than the single box size: Chaos knights 5 vs 10 and warriors 12 vs 16, saurus 12 vs 20 etc.

10 is the minimum unit size so it makes sense as a starting size, they are basically free so no reason for GW to throw in extra sprues, and I expect people will get the box for the Gruntas which are only £2 less than the box price on their own.

Ten models is what was in the WHFB Black Orc box as well.

Any hints on the blood bound starter, I was just about to order some last night and glad I didn't now.

Hoping for some of the crusher cavalry stuff and any warriors other than bloodreavers.

If you could break a box of Ardboys down to 10 models and bought all that stuff retail it would cost $144.33.

Basically you're buying the Gruntas at retail and getting 10 Ardboys and a Warchanter for $6.

Has anyone spotted pics of the bases? That's probably what I'm most interested in. I hates me some painting sand.

Ironjaws start collecting. Goodbye money

Miniwars.eu has pictures

http://www.miniwars.eu/2016/07/start-collecting.html

Well crap, I already have a pre-AoS box of Dryads.. aint nobody need 30 of those things..

That Sylvaneth get started box is mighty tempting.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Miniwars.eu has pictures

http://www.miniwars.eu/2016/07/start-collecting.html

I just went broke.

Those Stormcast are NOT starter box guys. There is a Prosecutor and a Liberator with a special weapon, those don't come in the starter. These are full kits.

Definitely getting one or two of the Sylvaneth boxes. Stormcast is decent enough but like the easy to build set I would have vastly preferred the other starter Retributor instead of the Prime.

Decisions, decisions... Tree folk one is mighty tempting.

Having a distinct lack of GW undead and being a fan of the bigger monsters, I may get that set too.

 Mymearan wrote:
Those Stormcast are NOT starter box guys. There is a Prosecutor and a Liberator with a special weapon, those don't come in the starter. These are full kits.

I think the Retributors are the starter ones though, specifically the 2 from the easy to build kit thing of them out this Saturday.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Decisions, decisions... Tree folk one is mighty tempting.

Having a distinct lack of GW undead and being a fan of the bigger monsters, I may get that set too.

Just a note:

That set is $180.

The Start Collecting Flesh-Eaters and that would basically be a good starting point for an army.

I didnt know the Slyvanith Queen lady summoned 2d6 dryads. That box is now looking better.

On a side note, her hand attack auto kills what ever if you roll double 6's....? That seems insane

Tempted by a single sylvan boxes and one flesheater court one to round out my two 180 boxes.

*looks at realm gate war's book*

Realm gate wars 10: Lord of Undeath


YEEEEEES

Might we finally see the first corrupted stormcast and what happens to manny? Plus moar nagash is always welcome.

Hmm battletome Dominion of chaos?

Faeit has pictures of the start collecting. The ghoul box has a unit of 10-20 ghouls(can't tell most likely 10) 3 crypt horrors and the zombie dragon box.

 shinros wrote:
Hmm battletome Dominion of chaos?

Got a feeling that its terrain rules to go with the RoB boards.

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 shinros wrote:
Hmm battletome Dominion of chaos?

Got a feeling that its terrain rules to go with the RoB boards.

Ah I see I expect some crazy rules then.

Knew you were going to react to that, Shinros!

Khorne bloodbound looks nice, no bloodreavers in sight, boy I'm really glad I didn't order more or less just that stuff last night.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
That Stormcast one seems like just the ticket. Means I can have a unit of 5 Retributors and build my other box as 5 Decimators (axes) or Protectors(glaives). Sweet. Then the Prosecutors, Liberators and Lord/Hero(I'm assuming Lord Celestant on foot/Lord Castellant) can be used to bulk up my forces.

The Ironjawz one makes sense. Your 10 Ardboyz give you a pretty decent start compared to 5 Brutes.

The War Chanter is actually quite badass and gives your Orruks some nice buffs in combat. An Ironjawz unit within 10" of the warchanter adds 1 to all of their 'to hit' rolls for the combat phase. The Ardboyz Boss adds that as well. Their drummers add 2 to the charge distance and their standard bearer can add 2 to their bravery. Or make them ignore battleshock on a 6.

Mhm, I've ended up using Warchanters over Weirdnob shamans as support characters now (especially with the rule of one's) since you are guaranteed a +1 to hit which is crazy good for all Ironjawz units. Ardboyz suddenly start hitting as often as other elite troops, while the brutes and megaboss absolutely destroy units when hitting on 2's (especially for brutes since they get the re-rolls to hit on top of that if they're facing the big stuff, which they should be). I've recently got the warchanter model so it's a little less attractive but I'll probably end up getting it anyways and converting the other Warchanter to be less air-traffic control like than the bog standard one.

Ardboys themselves are really important if you ever edge towards using Weirdnob shamans since they give them the bodies they need to get those bonuses to casting, and act as the anvils to the brutes' hammers. They are surprisingly difficult to move with 2W each and 4+ save (even more so if you manage to get mystic shield off) and really provide a solid battleline. The best part is their damage output is consistent unlike most other Orruk units which rely on a set number to really start laying the hurt.

How many Terror Gheist Dragons does one need for that army?

Maybe I should read the book, but Kan - that big box is sitting in my store right now.

And are the point costs for battalions/units going to be added this weekend to the App?

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
How many Terror Gheist Dragons does one need for that army?

Maybe I should read the book, but Kan - that big box is sitting in my store right now.

Okay, so brief primer:
The Terrorgheist/Zombie Dragon kit was previously the ONLY way to get a Ghoul King model. It still is at the moment.

HOWEVER, you can now actually run Terrorgheists solo.

So better off buying two of the bigger kits or 1/1 of the big and start collecting?

And out of the All Realms book - anyone know how many points the SC Hammer/Anvil battalion costs?

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
So better off buying two of the bigger kits or 1/1 of the big and start collecting?

How crazy do you want to go with Terrorgheists?

Also worth noting that there is an option for a Ghoul King on Zombie Dragon as well.

Thanks! I'll check out the battle tome now - got me very curious.