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Baron Klatz wrote:
Okay, just saw this on reddit and I only trust Lady Atia so not sure how high on the legit meter it is but if true I'm turning one of those balloon Duardin into a bad@$$ Tingle from LoZ.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/5wq7t0/any_new_duardin_rumors/

There's going to be a dwarven zeppelin, some new gunner dwarves, a character, and a unit of dwarves that are suspended by individual hot air balloons. They look pretty cool but my guy wouldn't let me take pics. I'm excited for everyone to see.

 Eldarain wrote:
Not sure if it is indicative of current Finecast quality but just assembled Slambo and he was much denser and free of defects. Very happy with him.

Cool! How big is he? If he's not super-sized I was thinking of making him a Bret paladin.

Hopefully thats not true. It sounds absolutely ridiculous

To steal a quote from the Duardin rumor thread:

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 RoboDragon wrote:
They could either be really really cool or ridiculous looking.

Or both. Some of the best things GW produces are equal parts cool and ridiculous imho.

Baron Klatz wrote:
To steal a quote from the Duardin rumor thread:

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 RoboDragon wrote:
They could either be really really cool or ridiculous looking.

Or both. Some of the best things GW produces are equal parts cool and ridiculous imho.

Or more likely that noise you can hear is the barrel being scraped as they desperately try and come up with some original designs they can TM and copyright the living daylight out of.

Age of Trademarks has all ready produced some "classics" whirling anvil hammer heads and Fyreslares with yourgold"they were not kiding at those prices either" being some of my favourites.

Fantasy airships with crewmen able to fly with it is original?

You forgot giant death hamster wheel that shoots lightning and pricey Byzantine dwarfs that build industrial artillery and mechas in that sum-up as well.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Fantasy airships with crewmen able to fly with it is original?

You forgot giant death hamster wheel that shoots lightning and pricey Byzantine dwarfs that build industrial artillery and mechas in that sum-up as well.

My dear boy it would help when you snark if you read a bit more of what we are discussing before you mount up there's a good chap.

Also the way you have grasped my point was masterly I would guess nothing goes over your head as you would catch it.

Firstly the 2 things you mention one is a little wacky but not that outlandish and the other does not exist unless I missed chaos dwarves having a robot.

Secondly I was referring to this wonderful idea "of dwarves that are suspended by individual hot air balloons." that gives a wonderful mental image of left over hobbit dwarves in barrels with ballons sculpted on.

Giant hamsterwheels had a RL basis, of sorts, at least.



And were given to one of the more insane, 'wacky' races in warhammer.

Dwarfs building big cannons and even crude robots is one thing; but c'mon Baron, there's only so much someone can defend and insist is without flaw, before it starts to look a bit forced. I said I kind of liked the idea of dwarf airships (also with a RL basis) but individual dwarfs suspended from balloons, floating around a few feet off the ground in the middle of a battlefield? It's the thing that made me think that AoS's cosmogony isn't based on Norse mythology or DnD planes, but on Yellow Submarine. If it's real, it might just top grey Santa on his floaty wolf sled.

Da Orks av got dis ballon malarkey sorted

 Vermis wrote:
Giant hamsterwheels had a RL basis, of sorts, at least.

Spoiler:

And were given to one of the more insane, 'wacky' races in warhammer.

Dwarfs building big cannons and even crude robots is one thing; but c'mon Baron, there's only so much someone can defend and insist is without flaw, before it starts to look a bit forced. I said I kind of liked the idea of dwarf airships (also with a RL basis) but individual dwarfs suspended from balloons, floating around a few feet off the ground in the middle of a battlefield? It's the thing that made me think that AoS's cosmogony isn't based on Norse mythology or DnD planes, but on Yellow Submarine. If it's real, it might just top grey Santa on his floaty wolf sled.

Except that you are forgetting that this is most likely an anonymous internet guy trolling.

Firstly the 2 things you mention one is a little wacky but not that outlandish and the other does not exist unless I missed chaos dwarves having a robot. 

Eh, it's like that Gork/Mork idol. Mentioned in the fluff (the dwarf omnibus even had the dwarves fight against it) but never really put on the tabletop. Though there was one account of someone seeing it but they never gave a picture of it.

The dwarves were also planned to get one if those 8th artwork pics were anything to go by of giant hammer-wielding machines in the background.

@Vermis, hahaha, I love that concept! Thanks for pointing it out, I thought you were going to just show trebuchet winch wheels.

Secondly I was referring to this wonderful idea "of dwarves that are suspended by individual hot air balloons." that gives a wonderful mental image of left over hobbit dwarves in barrels with ballons sculpted on. 

 but individual dwarfs suspended from balloons, floating around a few feet off the ground in the middle of a battlefield?

Here's the problem, can we actually wait to see them before we judge instead of just letting our imaginations fill in the blanks for us?

For all we know they're in mini-airships.

[Edit]: If the rumor guy is right, he pointed out that the "balloons" are from the earlier rumor engine leaks. That doesn't make me think floating aimlessly around on the battlefield but heavy armored flyer.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/16/the-rumour-engine/

Thought I replied earlier, it looks like the balloon for the steam punky hot air balloon guys

The idea of Dwarfs with balloons rigged to their backs flying around is ludicrous. I'd have to buy them.

I'm thinking, what if, instead of ballons, it turns out they are "sphere-like" jetpacks? The airship shown in the last rumour engine seemed to have metallic "baloons" after all.

Turgol wrote:

 Vermis wrote:
Giant hamsterwheels had a RL basis, of sorts, at least.

Spoiler:

And were given to one of the more insane, 'wacky' races in warhammer.

Dwarfs building big cannons and even crude robots is one thing; but c'mon Baron, there's only so much someone can defend and insist is without flaw, before it starts to look a bit forced. I said I kind of liked the idea of dwarf airships (also with a RL basis) but individual dwarfs suspended from balloons, floating around a few feet off the ground in the middle of a battlefield? It's the thing that made me think that AoS's cosmogony isn't based on Norse mythology or DnD planes, but on Yellow Submarine. If it's real, it might just top grey Santa on his floaty wolf sled.

Except that you are forgetting that this is most likely an anonymous internet guy trolling.

Agreed with Turgol.

I am sure I am not the only one who remembers the hysterical outrage over the 'fact' that Games Workshop were going to create a new race called Nigmos in what proved to be Age of Sigmar. A complete troll and yet some people where so convinced (apparently because GW are actively evil incompetents who are also money grabbing evil empire dudes) that there was pages of debate over whether GW should have known about the negative connotations of Nigmo and how it proved their incompetence. End result: complete 4chan troll material.

At this point we have some rando on t'internet saying he has seen the new dwarves and that they have individual balloons. Supporting evidence? Consistency with general aesthetics? Any reason to believe it at all? Yet from that we get a detailed description of individual dwarves floating a few feet off the ground suspended under balloons? Crikey. It is almost like some people on this forum have preconceived ideas about GW.

SeanDrake wrote:

Or more likely that noise you can hear is the barrel being scraped as they desperately try and come up with some original designs they can TM and copyright the living daylight out of.

Age of Trademarks has all ready produced some "classics" whirling anvil hammer heads and Fyreslares with yourgold"they were not kiding at those prices either" being some of my favourites.

A KoW/Mantic fanboy complaining about originality. Oh the irony.

motski wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:

Or more likely that noise you can hear is the barrel being scraped as they desperately try and come up with some original designs they can TM and copyright the living daylight out of.

Age of Trademarks has all ready produced some "classics" whirling anvil hammer heads and Fyreslares with yourgold"they were not kiding at those prices either" being some of my favourites.

A KoW/Mantic fanboy complaining about originality. Oh the irony.

I'm pretty sure it's totes ironic. I'm also pretty sure that the originality of Mantica as a setting is something better discussed in kings of war's thread, rather than AoS. And that therefore it would be better to discuss this anywhere else.

I think it all comes down to execution. So far in AOS the only army that has really failed in that regard is the fyreslayers, mostly due to some poor posing. (Many do not like the Stormcast but I think they executed the concept very well)
I am a little trepidatious about this release for that reason, but the idea of an airborne Duardin army sounds cool. If they take the aesthetic of the cogsmith and the gyro bomber and run with it we could have something special.
It seems highly likely that we will get preorders on the 18th. Hopefully we will get a preview sometime this week.

Lord Kragan wrote:

motski wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:

Or more likely that noise you can hear is the barrel being scraped as they desperately try and come up with some original designs they can TM and copyright the living daylight out of.

Age of Trademarks has all ready produced some "classics" whirling anvil hammer heads and Fyreslares with yourgold"they were not kiding at those prices either" being some of my favourites.

A KoW/Mantic fanboy complaining about originality. Oh the irony.

I'm pretty sure it's totes ironic. I'm also pretty sure that the originality of Mantica as a setting is something better discussed in kings of war's thread, rather than AoS. And that therefore it would be better to discuss this anywhere else.

Quite right. There is a very active Mantic news post here with details on all the exciting new releases on the way for Kings of War, and there is a busy section of this forum specifically for Kings of War discussion where the aesthetic triumphs of the Mantic range can be discussed in detail.

Chikout wrote:
I think it all comes down to execution. So far in AOS the only army that has really failed in that regard is the fyreslayers, mostly due to some poor posing. (Many do not like the Stormcast but I think they executed the concept very well)
I am a little trepidatious about this release for that reason, but the idea of an airborne Duardin army sounds cool. If they take the aesthetic of the cogsmith and the gyro bomber and run with it we could have something special.
It seems highly likely that we will get preorders on the 18th. Hopefully we will get a preview sometime this week.

If they are "baloons" I'd love them to be modelled as a para-trooper army. Man, I'd effing love it.

I'm betting on a miners pressed into service look, myself.

Wild guess but I think their fluff is gonna be airship crews who mine the skies and mountains of the realm of metal and pretty much keep to themselves otherwise. That could be why they never helped their kin in the other realms.

They might be a different flavor of Fyreslayer, instead of "anything for Ur-gold" it will be "stay off my claim!".

Do you mean an entire armada of old man hendersons minus the sheer crazyness (not as much)?

Cool.

Well, if that last leak picture was any indication that's the amount of crazy needed to ram* a greater daemon with an airship.

*if that was what they were doing. For all we know it could've been a cropped out picture of a Duardin captain shouting, "Unleash the balloon brigade!!"

If they have a Steam Golem, I hope Grandpadred and Tankred have a new friend to talk 'GET THE HELL OFF MY LAWN' policy and tactics with.

Man, surly psuedo-robots are great. I hope it has a metal beard.

I dunno about you guys but I would be all over balloon-infantry. This is the same universe in which the doomwheel and goblin fanatic exist after all.

I think people tend to visualize "Up" instead of what these things might really look like. They're not going to be riding something that can be popped by an arrow.

As a long time fan of all things balloon/airship/dirigible/zeppelins, which had been increased since childhood by things like "castle in the sky", final fantasy, Rise of legends and WW1 aircraft books in general, I agree.

[Edit]: that comment was meant for Ninthmusketeer but it works for that too.

mhsellwood wrote:[Quite right. There is a very active Mantic news post here with details on all the exciting new releases on the way for Kings of War, and there is a busy section of this forum specifically for Kings of War discussion where the aesthetic triumphs of the Mantic range can be discussed in detail.

More irony! An AoS fan hating on something other people enjoy just 'cause. Why are you ing on our game? Not cool.
No one sane has said the anyone plays KoW for the amazing models or wonderfully unique setting, that's what AoS is for. We like KoW for the exceptional rules and balance.

Carnikang wrote: I hope it has a metal beard.

That's a very dwarven thing to say. Also the best insight into this rumour yet.

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Turgol wrote:Except that you are forgetting that this is most likely an anonymous internet guy trolling.

mhsellwood wrote:Agreed with Turgol.

Vermis wrote:If it's real

I ain't forgetting nuthin'. I'm still half-hoping it's some person's fever dream.

Crikey. It is almost like some people on this forum have preconceived ideas about GW.

It's called 'experience'.

Lord Kragan wrote:I'm thinking, what if, instead of ballons, it turns out they are "sphere-like" jetpacks? The airship shown in the last rumour engine seemed to have metallic "baloons" after all.

I'd like that better. Would be nice if whoever glimpsed or ferreted out this 'balloon' concept was a bit more specific about it, though.

NinthMusketeer wrote:I dunno about you guys but I would be all over balloon-infantry. This is the same universe in which the doomwheel and goblin fanatic exist after all.

Even goblin fanatics have a RL basis. And again, those concepts were given to the unofficial 'office jokers' of WFB. For a race preoccupied with it's own honour and dignity to the point of developing a suicide cult for the mildly-insulted, where the height of humour is a word that means both 'shoddy' and 'man-made', it's a bit of a stretch.

I might feel differently if this were WHFB, but I find it hard to take AoS seriously on a certain level, since so much of the fluff is so very over the top.

So much of the fluff? Such as?

If they keep the the current dwarfs, then I dont care. Put them in a Start Collecting box with 1 unit of the new ones which I can sell off and I will be happy. Otherwise I am with Vermis. Dwarfs are one of those race in WHFB that has some dignity to them. So GW dont duck around with them. You already insulted the White Dwarf so please stop.