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Random speculation question, is the rumored General Handbook 2 meant to replace the original as "editions" do to rule books or are we thinking it will be an in addition to?

I received the Generals handbook as a gift today and wondering if I should leave it sealed, ship it to GW and wait for the second one to drop. Nothing like starting to learn 1st edition a month or two before 2nd drops.

 streetsamurai wrote:
not the same thing. The rune of king has a flat bottom, while this one don't

Erm it looks pretty similar to be honest, plus GW would not make the bloke a named character for no reason.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or the more logical thing would be that this game is yet another Sigmarine v Bloodborne box. Why produce key art with that if that wasn't the main focus?

Because they're the most recognizable avatars would be my only guess.

 shinros wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
not the same thing. The rune of king has a flat bottom, while this one don't

Erm it looks pretty similar to be honest, plus GW would not make the bloke a named character for no reason.

yeah, on second viewing, you're probably right. Hopefully it's a named character, since I hate playing with these, and this model is the only one I strongly dislike in the range (not crazy about the zeppelins either, but the normal ballon guys have grown on me)

My god, that just killed them for me...

That just nailed it on the head of what I don't like about them.

 ProtoClone wrote:

Spoiler:

 shinros wrote:
Yeah so according to atia blog the new duardin character has the rune of the high king.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1805

My god, that just killed them for me...

That just nailed it on the head of what I don't like about them.

Any chance anyone could translate this roughly? Appreciate it!

I seen them before

^ I loved that movie!

@ProtoClone,

And what's that?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or the more logical thing would be that this game is yet another Sigmarine v Bloodborne box. Why produce key art with that if that wasn't the main focus?

To protect the models from being copied before they're ready and a further draw-in for newcomers that started with the Starter box and the new Starter box?

Not saying it won't include those guys but the "new models" is a good indicator it's going to be like Silver Tower where the cover doesn't show everything.

 primalexile wrote:
Random speculation question, is the rumored General Handbook 2 meant to replace the original as "editions" do to rule books or are we thinking it will be an in addition to?

I received the Generals handbook as a gift today and wondering if I should leave it sealed, ship it to GW and wait for the second one to drop. Nothing like starting to learn 1st edition a month or two before 2nd drops.

Eh, it's likely to have new points values but lack the scenarios and narratives #1 had. So if you're only interested in matched play you might send that one back.

OgreChubbs wrote:
I seen them before

They also sort of remind me of the mechanical gnomes in World of Warcraft. Though the latter are usually pretty basic mechanical humanoids, as opposed to what we're seeing here.

The one rune, if I understand, is like rubber and glue. When the character with the rune is wounded (in hand to hand, I think) you roll a d6. On a 4+ the attacker is wounded instead.

Baron Klatz wrote:
To protect the models from being copied before they're ready...

Really? You really think that's the reason? When has that ever been the actual reason?

Baron Klatz wrote:
... and a further draw-in for newcomers that started with the Starter box and the new Starter box?

Things cost money. Commissioning artwork costs money. One does not create key art for something new and not include the things that are in there in the picture. That'd be like advertising the new Star Wars movie by using the last movie's poster.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Not saying it won't include those guys but the "new models" is a good indicator it's going to be like Silver Tower where the cover doesn't show everything.

It could still be new models that are just more Sigmarines and Bloodborn.

Haha, well neither us can prove anything so let's wait and see.

No way, I'm reliably informed every time I complain about Stormcast releases, that don't worry this will be the last Stormcast release for some time. Every single time.
So it can't be new Stormcast models.

Joyboozer wrote:
No way, I'm reliably informed every time I complain about Stormcast releases, that don't worry this will be the last Stormcast release for some time. Every single time.
So it can't be new Stormcast models.

Weren't the stormcasts on like 3 new kits total in the last 15 months before this release? 2 of them in March last year and one just a clampack character in like october?

Are you saying you've never said it?

 ProtoClone wrote:

Spoiler:

 shinros wrote:
Yeah so according to atia blog the new duardin character has the rune of the high king.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1805

My god, that just killed them for me...

That just nailed it on the head of what I don't like about them.

What did? The rune..?


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 streetsamurai wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
not the same thing. The rune of king has a flat bottom, while this one don't

Erm it looks pretty similar to be honest, plus GW would not make the bloke a named character for no reason.

yeah, on second viewing, you're probably right. Hopefully it's a named character, since I hate playing with these, and this model is the only one I strongly dislike in the range (not crazy about the zeppelins either, but the normal ballon guys have grown on me)

That guy is a named character (Brokk Grungsson).

guru wrote:
from twitter

Spoiler:

This is a new board game coming from GW that is "very different than anything we've done"...coming later this year.

Very different? Stormcast dating sim is go!

Joyboozer wrote:
No way, I'm reliably informed every time I complain about Stormcast releases, that don't worry this will be the last Stormcast release for some time. Every single time.
So it can't be new Stormcast models.

The never ending tide of gakky Stormacast models (though to be honest the ones on birds were really nice). One of the only constant of life

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

guru wrote:
from twitter

Spoiler:

This is a new board game coming from GW that is "very different than anything we've done"...coming later this year.

Very different? Stormcast dating sim is go!

Nope, the new game is Stormcastigator, players take turn correcting everyone who complains about Stormcast releases.

Haha, I get the anger at them being overused. (Especially the Hammers of Sigmar, the other chambers need more love)

I'm still eager to see more of this, though. The plural in underworlds and the generic starter troops instead of new models of them could point to a warband game like Mordheim.

I will withhold judgement until we see the unveiling at Adepticon next week, but for now I am cautiously pessimistic. Please be more than just Stormcast and bloodbound.

It's hard to believe it would be just them when a new starter box is being released as well that'd eat up the sales from this one.

More likely it's a way of going "Hey! You can use those starter guys you just bought with this game!".


Time will tell but I'm pretty hopeful. This wasn't a rushed product like HoS so GW had as much time as they needed to put in new stuff.

Given all this new IP they're showing off ('Shadow War', the first set being Armageddon, and "Warhammer Underworlds", Shadespire being the first of those, presumably with 'Underdark' to follow), I just cannot wait to see what terrible third-rate mobile game developers manage to get their hands on it. It's gonna be great*!

Joyboozer wrote:
Stormcastigator

That sounds like the kind've name GW would give a new Sigmarine unit, just minus the little ™ at the end.




*Read: Terrible.

Why is it that Shadespire needs to be about Khorne and Stormcasts? Utterly ridiculous to see that Nagash esque tile and for it to not feature the undead in some way.

Because people are leaping to conclusions?

Single piece of artwork. That's all we've seen. Happens to feature the current post boys - Stormcast and Bloodbound.

That doesn't make it proof positive that's all that's involved. At all.

From the Warhammer Community article, we're told to expect more about it very soon. So if people could perhaps not actually form opinions until that point, that'd be topper.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Because people are leaping to conclusions?

Occam's Razor doesn't leap. They drew key art to advertise a new game. That artwork has Sigmarines and Bloodborn (is it Bloodbound? Ok, fine, Bloodbound), therefore the only logical conclusion is that this new game includes stuff from the old game.

There's no leaping happening here.

This seems to be like Shadow War Armageddon (or Necromunda and Mordheim). With rules to use other miniatures. A band/party-based game.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Because people are leaping to conclusions?

Occam's Razor doesn't leap. They drew key art to advertise a new game. That artwork has Sigmarines and Bloodborn (is it Bloodbound? Ok, fine, Bloodbound), therefore the only logical conclusion is that this new game includes stuff from the old game.

There's no leaping happening here.

If there was any indication that the sole artwork.

But there is no such indication. It's a single poster. Or perhaps because the Adeptus Titanicus poster shown off and snapped by yours truly at Warhammerfest last year only depicted a Warlord Class Titan with Two Volcano Cannon and a pair of Turbolaser Batteries, that means the game will also only feature Warlord Class Titans with Two Volcano Cannon and a pair of Turbolaser Batteries? Or that the cover for Codex Craftworlds only featuring a Warlock, Guardians, Vypers and Hemlock mean they're the sole contents of the Eldar army now?

 shinros wrote:

The First Rune -

Greater Rune of Terror : Can only be carved on a warhorn. One use only, at the end of the dwarf turn every enemy unit must take a psychology test. If failed they are terrified, and can't do anything.

The Second Rune

Greater Rune of Kings : This Rune can only be carved on the crown of a king. A unit lead by the bearer of the Rune is immune to Fear and terror, and moral checks are always tested with a leadership of 10, which cannot be modified by magic or combat results. As such the required value on a 2D6 will always be 10 or less.

The Third Rune ;

Greater Rune of Insults : This rune was created by Vikram the rune master, a bad tempered dwarf known for his harsh insults. The rune returns an enemy attack against himself. Each time a dwarf character with this rune is wounded in close combat, roll 1D6. On a 4+ the attacker gets wounded instead.




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I'm confused by the name, who are they overlords of?
I don't see a slave race.
Also, what theme are they trying to go for? The WHFB dwarves were clearly viking inspired with guns, here they seem to be Victorian Steampunk (oh hi tophat) with Norse runes.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:

 ProtoClone wrote:

Spoiler:

 shinros wrote:
Yeah so according to atia blog the new duardin character has the rune of the high king.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1805

My god, that just killed them for me...

That just nailed it on the head of what I don't like about them.

Any chance anyone could translate this roughly? Appreciate it!

Major Rune of Terror
It can only be engraved on a war horn instrument. When it is used, the deep and eery sound it produces resonates throughout the battlefield and terrify the enemy. Can only be used once per battle, at the end of the dwarf turn player. Every enemy units must pass a psychology test, if it fails, they can't move nor charge in the following turn. 50 pts

Major Rune of the Kings
This rune can only be engraved on the crown of a Dwarf King. The unit led by the King is immune to fear and terror. Its moral test are always done vs a Leadership of 10, never modified by combat results or magic. So, the number to obtain on a 2d6 is alway 10 or less. 100 pts

Major Rune of Insults
This rune was created by some Dwarven idiot by the name of Vikram, renowned for the virulence of his insults. It returns the attack of an opponent toward him. Each time the ''wearer'' of the rune receives damage in hand to hand combat, throw a d6. On a 4+, it's the opponent who attacked him who receives the damage. 50 pts


As I don't play AoS, some of the terms I used may be off but for anyone whit a little bit of logic, it should be obvious what is meant.

Edit : CthuluIsSpy beat me by a couple of minutes