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2016/05/26 06:49:57
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Just a question, but are the rules for these two tanks in a White Dwarf or only exclusively in the boxed set from Warhammer World?
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2016/05/26 07:28:47
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Tunneling Trygon
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I did not see them in a White Dwarf but I'm a bit behind on them. My PDF of it appears to be its own little pamphlet you'd get in the box.
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2016/05/26 09:07:55
Subject: Re:Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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it was apparently exclusive to warhammer world.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2016/05/26 09:15:59
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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Weren't there rumours that these were going to see general release soon?
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2016/05/26 11:51:23
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Omnipotent Necron Overlord
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If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
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2016/05/26 16:53:48
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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Oh great, there goes yet another unique Imperial Guard unit.Want anything else whilst your at it Marine players? Basilisk's and Wyverns? Leman Russ hulls? Baneblade? Orders?
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2016/05/26 16:57:15
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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 master of ordinance wrote:Oh great, there goes yet another unique Imperial Guard unit.Want anything else whilst your at it Marine players? Basilisk's and Wyverns? Leman Russ hulls? Baneblade? Orders?
I don't remember seeing a command Land Raider in my Guard Codex. Care to point out where it is?
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2016/05/26 16:58:31
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Technically Space Wolves had access to Leman Russes in 3rd edition, but was later revoked. 
Also most of those are already a thing in Horus Heresy (Legion Artillery tanks, felblades, and some special rules I forget).
Dohoho.
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Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
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2016/05/26 17:24:24
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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It would make sense. They are available as a choice for the Anvil Strike Force in Angels of Death. I would totally be all over that if they did release them.
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2016/05/26 19:50:16
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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Yeah those sure would be great
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2016/05/26 19:53:05
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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 TheCustomLime wrote: master of ordinance wrote:Oh great, there goes yet another unique Imperial Guard unit.Want anything else whilst your at it Marine players? Basilisk's and Wyverns? Leman Russ hulls? Baneblade? Orders?
I don't remember seeing a command Land Raider in my Guard Codex. Care to point out where it is?
he's suggesting a tank commander is a unique unit to the guard, all the while forgetting sgt chronus predates the guard tank commander.
the command tanks being spoken about are entirely differant. they're a unique varient with C3 capabilities. and as I understand it the idea hjas been around awhile, FW produced a command rhino
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2016/05/27 15:42:58
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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BrianDavion wrote: TheCustomLime wrote: master of ordinance wrote:Oh great, there goes yet another unique Imperial Guard unit.Want anything else whilst your at it Marine players? Basilisk's and Wyverns? Leman Russ hulls? Baneblade? Orders?
I don't remember seeing a command Land Raider in my Guard Codex. Care to point out where it is?
he's suggesting a tank commander is a unique unit to the guard, all the while forgetting sgt chronus predates the guard tank commander.
the command tanks being spoken about are entirely differant. they're a unique varient with C3 capabilities. and as I understand it the idea hjas been around awhile, FW produced a command rhino
My point is that generic tank commanders are a IG thing. Like vehicle squadrons used to be. And transport/gunship flyers/fast skimmers used to be.
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2016/05/27 15:47:52
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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master of ordinance wrote:BrianDavion wrote: TheCustomLime wrote: master of ordinance wrote:Oh great, there goes yet another unique Imperial Guard unit.Want anything else whilst your at it Marine players? Basilisk's and Wyverns? Leman Russ hulls? Baneblade? Orders?
I don't remember seeing a command Land Raider in my Guard Codex. Care to point out where it is?
he's suggesting a tank commander is a unique unit to the guard, all the while forgetting sgt chronus predates the guard tank commander.
the command tanks being spoken about are entirely differant. they're a unique varient with C3 capabilities. and as I understand it the idea hjas been around awhile, FW produced a command rhino
My point is that generic tank commanders are a IG thing. Like vehicle squadrons used to be. And transport/gunship flyers/fast skimmers used to be.
Its ok there will soon only be Space Marines........... remember Space Marines need to have every type of unit now................cos reasons.....
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2016/05/27 17:50:52
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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master of ordinance wrote:BrianDavion wrote: TheCustomLime wrote: master of ordinance wrote:Oh great, there goes yet another unique Imperial Guard unit.Want anything else whilst your at it Marine players? Basilisk's and Wyverns? Leman Russ hulls? Baneblade? Orders?
I don't remember seeing a command Land Raider in my Guard Codex. Care to point out where it is?
he's suggesting a tank commander is a unique unit to the guard, all the while forgetting sgt chronus predates the guard tank commander.
the command tanks being spoken about are entirely differant. they're a unique varient with C3 capabilities. and as I understand it the idea hjas been around awhile, FW produced a command rhino
My point is that generic tank commanders are a IG thing. Like vehicle squadrons used to be. And transport/gunship flyers/fast skimmers used to be.
The Rhino Primaris and Land Raider Excelsior are not the same as the IG tank commanders. Plus, Space Marine legions have had acces to tank commanders for a few years now.
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2016/05/27 17:54:30
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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TheCustomLime wrote: master of ordinance wrote:BrianDavion wrote: TheCustomLime wrote: master of ordinance wrote:Oh great, there goes yet another unique Imperial Guard unit.Want anything else whilst your at it Marine players? Basilisk's and Wyverns? Leman Russ hulls? Baneblade? Orders?
I don't remember seeing a command Land Raider in my Guard Codex. Care to point out where it is?
he's suggesting a tank commander is a unique unit to the guard, all the while forgetting sgt chronus predates the guard tank commander.
the command tanks being spoken about are entirely differant. they're a unique varient with C3 capabilities. and as I understand it the idea hjas been around awhile, FW produced a command rhino
My point is that generic tank commanders are a IG thing. Like vehicle squadrons used to be. And transport/gunship flyers/fast skimmers used to be.
The Rhino Primaris and Land Raider Excelsior are not the same as the IG tank commanders. Plus, Space Marine legions have had acces to tank commanders for a few years now.
A single character tank commander, and the Guard have had access to a character commander for as long if not longer.
But let us see:
Is it a variant/upgrade of a standard tank? Yes
Does it gain benefits for this upgrade? Also Yes
Can it be squadroned? I ampretty sure the answer is Yes.
So, here we go again. Space Marines getting something the Imperial Guard have.
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2016/05/27 17:56:36
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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No, it cannot be squadroned.
Additionally, all these tanks do is provide an additional effect. They do not do anything more. They are not Chronus, they are not an option for him to be mounted upon, and they are not Tank Commanders.
These are similar to the Salamander Command Tank or Salamander Recon Tank. That's all.
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2016/05/27 17:56:46
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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You can keep the Russes. They suck.
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2016/05/27 18:02:51
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Horus Heresy-Betrayal came out in 2012 which had both tank squadrons and tank commanders in it. Codex: Astra Militarum, which came out in 2014, was the first IG codex to have generic commanders. IA1 did have them before but I'm just saying your complaints are few years late.
Your second point doesn't make any sense. The Land Raider Excelsior and Rhino Primaris are a lot like the Damocles command rhino in that they give army wide benefits as opposed to a squadron upgrade like Pask. The Guard has no real equivalent to this other than the Salamander scout tank I think.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
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2016/05/27 18:04:02
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Why you gotta go hating on the venerable old Russ, Martel?
They just want to help! With cannons! And explosions!
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2016/05/27 18:25:12
Subject: Space Marine Command HQ tanks?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Why you gotta go hating on the venerable old Russ, Martel?
They just want to help! With cannons! And explosions!
I love the concept, but GW trashed the crunch. The ordinance rule is just stupid for heavy tanks.
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