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Is it kosher to play two cads? References would be awesome

From 'Detachments' (pg. 118, main rulebook), fourth paragraph:

There is no limit to the number of Detachments a Battle-forged army can include and you can use any mixture of Detachments you have available...

Since there is no specific limitation on the Combined Arms Detachment (or any other Detachment that comes to mind), then you may take as many Combined Arms Detachments as you can fit in your army within the points allowed.

 Ghaz wrote:
From 'Detachments' (pg. 118, main rulebook), fourth paragraph:

There is no limit to the number of Detachments a Battle-forged army can include and you can use any mixture of Detachments you have available...

Since there is no specific limitation on the Combined Arms Detachment (or any other Detachment that comes to mind), then you may take as many Combined Arms Detachments as you can fit in your army within the points allowed.

The only other limitation for other formations is things like unique characters (eg. Abbadon from the bringers of depair) and things that specify that [X] must be the warlord (eg. Mogroks boss boys). As stated above, neither apply to a CAD (though you still can't take more than 1 version of a character in an army), but there are some instances where you can't take multiples of a formation.

yes 10charac

I find it interesting there is a specific rule in the Marines Codex that says you can take an allied detachment, but only if it is a different chapter. Yet, there's no specific rule against taking two CAD's with the same Chapter rules? ( or even a CAD with different chapter rules).

So the only reason to take an allied detachment is a lesser tax to get an extra unit of X......

General Hobbs wrote:
I find it interesting there is a specific rule in the Marines Codex that says you can take an allied detachment, but only if it is a different chapter. Yet, there's no specific rule against taking two CAD's with the same Chapter rules? ( or even a CAD with different chapter rules).

So the only reason to take an allied detachment is a lesser tax to get an extra unit of X......

The Allied Detachment cannot normally be of the same Faction as the Primary Detachment. This specific rule you mention is to bypass this detachment's restriction, but not completely.

General Hobbs wrote:


I find it interesting there is a specific rule in the Marines Codex that says you can take an allied detachment, but only if it is a different chapter. Yet, there's no specific rule against taking two CAD's with the same Chapter rules? ( or even a CAD with different chapter rules).

So the only reason to take an allied detachment is a lesser tax to get an extra unit of X......

Yes. The Allied Detachment only requires one Troops choice, so it makes it easier to get to the HS/FA/Elite/ETC. choices.

Yes

Yeah. According to GW rules as written you could literally have as many detachments as the points your playing at would allow you too.

However a friend of mine and I were talking the other day and he mentioned moat current 7e tourneys have been limiting it to 2 detachments per army.

While I get where this idea is coming from I also find it to be completly a homemade houserule and RAW you can take detachments ad infiminium as long as you stay within point restrictions.

I think it's mainly some tournaments that don't allow double CAD. I guess they fear too much spam.

 Xenomancers wrote:
I think it's mainly some tournaments that don't allow double CAD. I guess they fear too much spam.

If I was the TO, I would see it as reasonable to consider that each CAD as its own detachment. Therefore, 2 CADs, 2 detachments. simple.

 carldooley wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
I think it's mainly some tournaments that don't allow double CAD. I guess they fear too much spam.

If I was the TO, I would see it as reasonable to consider that each CAD as its own detachment. Therefore, 2 CADs, 2 detachments. simple.

2 CADs actually are 2 Detachments per the rules. Why would you ever think that 2 CADs were a single Detachment? This isn't 6th Edition and hasn't been for some time.

Many tournaments create artificial house rules in an attempt to force army building methodology back to a 5th/6th edition style, placing limits on the number and types of Detachments. This necessarily excludes a large number of factions/army types/players from attending these events. Many non competitive and extremely fluffy lists require more than 2 Detachments given the current structure of 7th Edition. A Grey Knights army composed of some Grey Knights, an attached Inquisitor and a Vindicare Assassin in 6th Edition would now require 3 separate Detachments... Grey Knights, Inquisition and Officio Assassinorum. Draconian army building restrictions prevents this player from participating, or at the very least forces him to cut whole segments of his army to meet the restrictions.

TL: DR; Almost every organized play event will have some sort of restriction on army building. Check with the event organizer to see what these restrictions are. "Pure" 40k has very few restrictions when it comes to army building. You can make a valid list out of nothing but Techmarines if you want.