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What about the Demiurg?
I recall an Ork Rokk happened to just plough into that one asteroid they all inhabited.

I know they had models for Battlefleet, pretty sure they also did for use in Tau armies but only for two lone Demiurg, though.

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Not sure if they had models, but from Eldar:
Iyanna Arienal
Nuadhu 'Fireheart'

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 Buddingsquaw wrote:
What about the Demiurg?
I recall an Ork Rokk happened to just plough into that one asteroid they all inhabited.

I know they had models for Battlefleet, pretty sure they also did for use in Tau armies but only for two lone Demiurg, though.


Yeah, the Demiurg only ever had two minis for BFG but I think as a race they are still alive in the fluff. (I need a ruling on this one from another source though...)


 Happyjew wrote:
Not sure if they had models, but from Eldar:
Iyanna Arienal
Nuadhu 'Fireheart'


Iyanna Arienal did have an miniature but it was unreleased so it wouldn't count
Nuadhu Fireheart didn't have an official miniature

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No offense but if you arnt including w/o models I dont care about the ones with models. Just b.c they didnt have a model doesnt mean they are less important.

PS, Vect DID have a model.

   
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 Amishprn86 wrote:
No offense but if you arnt including w/o models I dont care about the ones with models. Just b.c they didnt have a model doesnt mean they are less important.

PS, Vect DID have a model.


None taken mate ;-) . I'm not implying anything about the importance of characters in general, just their importance to my project. I'm specifically looking for a list of those that did have miniatures and subsequently disappeared from the background. Vect is not included because he is STILL in the background. Thanks for checking it out though.

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What about Veteran Scout Sergeant Naaman from the Dark Angels ?
   
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Are you considering Rogue Trader to be part of 40k? Because then you'd get dozens of characters, if numbers are what you're after.

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Lord Solar Macharius was already dead in fluff but had a model and rules.
Captain Cortez had rules and an awful model briefly.
Ahriman's Cabal were a bunch of sorcerors who could use the gate psychic power rules given during the Eye of Terror campaign- never mentioned again.
Cant remember if the sorceror model released during Medusa V had rules but he had a name!
There were a few UM special characters released as rules- Captain Invictus, Ancient Helveticus that you could use with the regular models (though you'd have to convert the plasmablaster)
The Last Chancers?
   
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 ThirstySpaceMan wrote:


AmBull, squats hrud used to be space skaven now are bendies.


Apart from squats wich of those had models?
   
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TheWanderer wrote:
 ThirstySpaceMan wrote:


AmBull, squats hrud used to be space skaven now are bendies.


Apart from squats wich of those had models?


Hrud never did, or at least I can't find mention of one...

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 =Angel= wrote:

Ahriman's Cabal were a bunch of sorcerors who could use the gate psychic power rules given during the Eye of Terror campaign- never mentioned again.


They never had a model.

Cant remember if the sorceror model released during Medusa V had rules but he had a name!


There was never a new Sorcerer model released during Medusa V - iirc the only 'new' Chaos models released were the metal possessed and the nurgle daemon prince. The only 'named' limited release character was the twin lightning claw Ultramarine Captain who was hilariously Sicarius - he's still alive with a newer, blingier model.

There were a few UM special characters released as rules- Captain Invictus, Ancient Helveticus that you could use with the regular models (though you'd have to convert the plasmablaster)


Then they don't count as having models specific to themselves - that's not the intention of this thread. I believe he's trying to compile a list of characters who had specific models that disappeared into the fluff abyss without mention of their fate.

The Last Chancers?


I'd almost agree here except there were books detailing their continued existence - not those specific characters but then iirc the only truly named character was Schaeffer himself - the rest had generic action movie nicknames to represent a generic spread of archetypes. Same as Gaunt's Ghosts - they had models released and the models and rules phased out but the books detailed continued fates.


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 Lord Corellia wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Captain Cortez of the Crimson Fists is gone.


Most likely killed by emo Space Elves, no less...
Reason 54587940 and 1 that I hate frickin' Eldar. But in all honestly, I doubt even they had what it takes to kill him. They probably marooned him on a long forgotten moon somewhere once they got bored of sending people for him to kill.

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Now for my contribution here...

Nightbringer and the Deceiver.

Like the IG colonel SCs and Brother Bethor their models are still around - as generic C'tan shards but the distinct special rules and lore relating to them is gone. They didn't die. They aren't even really mentioned in the Newcron lore. They literally just poofed.

Which is a shame as Nightbringer's old 3rd ed Lore was fantastic - the fact his actions left a psychological scar on the psyche of all intelligent races - i.e. he's the reason we fear death to the extent that our visualisation of it is based on him.

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 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Now for my contribution here...

Nightbringer and the Deceiver.

Like the IG colonel SCs and Brother Bethor their models are still around - as generic C'tan shards but the distinct special rules and lore relating to them is gone. They didn't die. They aren't even really mentioned in the Newcron lore. They literally just poofed.

Which is a shame as Nightbringer's old 3rd ed Lore was fantastic - the fact his actions left a psychological scar on the psyche of all intelligent races - i.e. he's the reason we fear death to the extent that our visualisation of it is based on him.


Yup, they'd count. The models are now "shards", is that right?
   
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Would the Red Terror be a contender for the list? It had a mini but I can't see any mention of it in the latest Tyranid codex.
   
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 Weyrell wrote:
Would the Red Terror be a contender for the list? It had a mini but I can't see any mention of it in the latest Tyranid codex.

Upgrade to Raveners now.

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Eldar Bonesingers. Not characters, but they were a thing with models.

While we're on the subject of units: Beastmen and Mutants for the Imperial Guard. Termites and Hellbores, also Imperium. Tempests, Eldar. Jetbikes, Space Marines/IG. Land Speeders, IG. Boar Boyz, Orks.

Here's a tough one: Dark Angels Chaplain Asmodai. His original model, when produced, was actually supposed to be Sapphon. It was just misnamed. So I'm not sure which one of them doesn't exist anymore. Only in game mechanics though, both are still quite active in the novels.

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This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.


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 Weyrell wrote:

- The Nemesis of Malantai


Do you mean the Doom of Malan'tai, from the Nids codex?

One of my regular opponents plays Nids, and he has informed me that one of my old HQs is no longer in the book as well....


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Not exactly characters, but the Pariahs just got straight up ret-conned.

I miss them so much. They were awesome in the fluff.

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Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.


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 Weyrell wrote:
 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Now for my contribution here...

Nightbringer and the Deceiver.

Like the IG colonel SCs and Brother Bethor their models are still around - as generic C'tan shards but the distinct special rules and lore relating to them is gone. They didn't die. They aren't even really mentioned in the Newcron lore. They literally just poofed.

Which is a shame as Nightbringer's old 3rd ed Lore was fantastic - the fact his actions left a psychological scar on the psyche of all intelligent races - i.e. he's the reason we fear death to the extent that our visualisation of it is based on him.


Yup, they'd count. The models are now "shards", is that right?


Well, they're named shards. The 7th Ed Necron codex removed generic shards from the army list and instead added "C'Tan Shard of the Nightbringer" and "C'Tan Shard of the Deciever" (and "Transcendent C'Tan", for what it's worth, that's also a unique character on a similar power level to the shards).

Most people foroget they exist because rules-wise they aren't terribly amazing for their points (random shooting attacks... woo will I roll the D thunderbolt or the terrible 'unit w/ bolters' power this turn when I'm targeting a Super Heavy?).
   
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 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
 Weyrell wrote:
 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Now for my contribution here...

Nightbringer and the Deceiver.

Like the IG colonel SCs and Brother Bethor their models are still around - as generic C'tan shards but the distinct special rules and lore relating to them is gone. They didn't die. They aren't even really mentioned in the Newcron lore. They literally just poofed.

Which is a shame as Nightbringer's old 3rd ed Lore was fantastic - the fact his actions left a psychological scar on the psyche of all intelligent races - i.e. he's the reason we fear death to the extent that our visualisation of it is based on him.


Yup, they'd count. The models are now "shards", is that right?


Well, they're named shards. The 7th Ed Necron codex removed generic shards from the army list and instead added "C'Tan Shard of the Nightbringer" and "C'Tan Shard of the Deciever" (and "Transcendent C'Tan", for what it's worth, that's also a unique character on a similar power level to the shards).

Most people foroget they exist because rules-wise they aren't terribly amazing for their points (random shooting attacks... woo will I roll the D thunderbolt or the terrible 'unit w/ bolters' power this turn when I'm targeting a Super Heavy?).


Kind of a huge demotion from their 3rd ed appearance though.

Go from being Star God to Bit of Star God.

Imagine... Marneus Calgar....Ultramarine Sergeant.


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 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Kind of a huge demotion from their 3rd ed appearance though.

Go from being Star God to Bit of Star God.



I dunno man, makes sense to me. I mean, given the fluff of 40k gods, it just seems that if they had their full presence and full whatevers about them on a single battlefield, they should be gamebreakingly powerful.

There's a reason we don't have rules and models for Khorne, Nurlge, the Emperor, Ceggorach, Isha, etc.
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
I dunno man, makes sense to me. I mean, given the fluff of 40k gods, it just seems that if they had their full presence and full whatevers about them on a single battlefield, they should be gamebreakingly powerful.


40k has never cared much about lore power when statting things.


There's a reason we don't have rules and models for Khorne, Nurlge, the Emperor, Ceggorach, Isha, etc.


Because they cannot enter the material universe.

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Nightbringer and Deciever still exist but got retconned into Pokemon.

And Sly Marbo was never removed from the game, Sly Marbo removed the game from him.

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