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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 08:33:13
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun
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What about the Demiurg?
I recall an Ork Rokk happened to just plough into that one asteroid they all inhabited.
I know they had models for Battlefleet, pretty sure they also did for use in Tau armies but only for two lone Demiurg, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 08:46:29
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Not sure if they had models, but from Eldar:
Iyanna Arienal
Nuadhu 'Fireheart'
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 09:00:47
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
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Buddingsquaw wrote:What about the Demiurg? I recall an Ork Rokk happened to just plough into that one asteroid they all inhabited. I know they had models for Battlefleet, pretty sure they also did for use in Tau armies but only for two lone Demiurg, though. Yeah, the Demiurg only ever had two minis for BFG but I think as a race they are still alive in the fluff. (I need a ruling on this one from another source though...) Happyjew wrote:Not sure if they had models, but from Eldar: Iyanna Arienal Nuadhu 'Fireheart' Iyanna Arienal did have an miniature but it was unreleased so it wouldn't count Nuadhu Fireheart didn't have an official miniature
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 09:18:10
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Fixture of Dakka
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No offense but if you arnt including w/o models I dont care about the ones with models. Just b.c they didnt have a model doesnt mean they are less important.
PS, Vect DID have a model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 09:25:30
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
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Amishprn86 wrote:No offense but if you arnt including w/o models I dont care about the ones with models. Just b.c they didnt have a model doesnt mean they are less important. PS, Vect DID have a model. None taken mate ;-) . I'm not implying anything about the importance of characters in general, just their importance to my project. I'm specifically looking for a list of those that did have miniatures and subsequently disappeared from the background. Vect is not included because he is STILL in the background. Thanks for checking it out though. W
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 09:50:36
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Torture Victim in the Bowels of the Rock
Brest
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What about Veteran Scout Sergeant Naaman from the Dark Angels ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 10:08:26
Subject: Re:List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Praetorian
Bangor, PA
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Are you considering Rogue Trader to be part of 40k? Because then you'd get dozens of characters, if numbers are what you're after.
Also, Zodgrod Wortsnagga
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The object of a game is to win. The *point* of a game is to have fun. Never confuse the two.
My P&M Blog! Scratch-built AOS Demons, RPG figures, & random Other Stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 10:23:40
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Inactive, user. New profile might pop up in a while |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 10:30:27
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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Lord Solar Macharius was already dead in fluff but had a model and rules.
Captain Cortez had rules and an awful model briefly.
Ahriman's Cabal were a bunch of sorcerors who could use the gate psychic power rules given during the Eye of Terror campaign- never mentioned again.
Cant remember if the sorceror model released during Medusa V had rules but he had a name!
There were a few UM special characters released as rules- Captain Invictus, Ancient Helveticus that you could use with the regular models (though you'd have to convert the plasmablaster)
The Last Chancers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 14:19:51
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Apart from squats wich of those had models?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 15:10:04
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
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Hrud never did, or at least I can't find mention of one... Ambull
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 17:20:10
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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=Angel= wrote:
Ahriman's Cabal were a bunch of sorcerors who could use the gate psychic power rules given during the Eye of Terror campaign- never mentioned again.
They never had a model.
Cant remember if the sorceror model released during Medusa V had rules but he had a name!
There was never a new Sorcerer model released during Medusa V - iirc the only 'new' Chaos models released were the metal possessed and the nurgle daemon prince. The only 'named' limited release character was the twin lightning claw Ultramarine Captain who was hilariously Sicarius - he's still alive with a newer, blingier model.
There were a few UM special characters released as rules- Captain Invictus, Ancient Helveticus that you could use with the regular models (though you'd have to convert the plasmablaster)
Then they don't count as having models specific to themselves - that's not the intention of this thread. I believe he's trying to compile a list of characters who had specific models that disappeared into the fluff abyss without mention of their fate.
The Last Chancers?
I'd almost agree here except there were books detailing their continued existence - not those specific characters but then iirc the only truly named character was Schaeffer himself - the rest had generic action movie nicknames to represent a generic spread of archetypes. Same as Gaunt's Ghosts - they had models released and the models and rules phased out but the books detailed continued fates.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 17:24:36
Subject: Re:List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Reason 54587940 and 1 that I hate frickin' Eldar. But in all honestly, I doubt even they had what it takes to kill him. They probably marooned him on a long forgotten moon somewhere once they got bored of sending people for him to kill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 17:25:46
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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Now for my contribution here...
Nightbringer and the Deceiver.
Like the IG colonel SCs and Brother Bethor their models are still around - as generic C'tan shards but the distinct special rules and lore relating to them is gone. They didn't die. They aren't even really mentioned in the Newcron lore. They literally just poofed.
Which is a shame as Nightbringer's old 3rd ed Lore was fantastic - the fact his actions left a psychological scar on the psyche of all intelligent races - i.e. he's the reason we fear death to the extent that our visualisation of it is based on him.
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Now only a CSM player. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 19:03:50
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
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DarkStarSabre wrote:Now for my contribution here...
Nightbringer and the Deceiver.
Like the IG colonel SCs and Brother Bethor their models are still around - as generic C'tan shards but the distinct special rules and lore relating to them is gone. They didn't die. They aren't even really mentioned in the Newcron lore. They literally just poofed.
Which is a shame as Nightbringer's old 3rd ed Lore was fantastic - the fact his actions left a psychological scar on the psyche of all intelligent races - i.e. he's the reason we fear death to the extent that our visualisation of it is based on him.
Yup, they'd count. The models are now "shards", is that right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/08 19:11:00
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Castellan Draco of the Black Templars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 13:24:41
Subject: Re:List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Rest in peace sly
You will be missed
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"We're not just going to shoot the bastards. We're going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks."
-The most imperial guard thing ever said.
The one rule I have in my threads: DONT TALK ABOUT THE ABRAMS.
That is it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 16:52:57
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
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Would the Red Terror be a contender for the list? It had a mini but I can't see any mention of it in the latest Tyranid codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 20:10:06
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Weyrell wrote:Would the Red Terror be a contender for the list? It had a mini but I can't see any mention of it in the latest Tyranid codex.
Upgrade to Raveners now.
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 22:03:54
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Eldar Bonesingers. Not characters, but they were a thing with models.
While we're on the subject of units: Beastmen and Mutants for the Imperial Guard. Termites and Hellbores, also Imperium. Tempests, Eldar. Jetbikes, Space Marines/IG. Land Speeders, IG. Boar Boyz, Orks.
Here's a tough one: Dark Angels Chaplain Asmodai. His original model, when produced, was actually supposed to be Sapphon. It was just misnamed. So I'm not sure which one of them doesn't exist anymore. Only in game mechanics though, both are still quite active in the novels.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/10 03:22:09
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Do you mean the Doom of Malan'tai, from the Nids codex?
One of my regular opponents plays Nids, and he has informed me that one of my old HQs is no longer in the book as well....
The Parasite of Mortrex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 01:54:09
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Not exactly characters, but the Pariahs just got straight up ret-conned.
I miss them so much. They were awesome in the fluff.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 02:20:50
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Weyrell wrote: DarkStarSabre wrote:Now for my contribution here...
Nightbringer and the Deceiver.
Like the IG colonel SCs and Brother Bethor their models are still around - as generic C'tan shards but the distinct special rules and lore relating to them is gone. They didn't die. They aren't even really mentioned in the Newcron lore. They literally just poofed.
Which is a shame as Nightbringer's old 3rd ed Lore was fantastic - the fact his actions left a psychological scar on the psyche of all intelligent races - i.e. he's the reason we fear death to the extent that our visualisation of it is based on him.
Yup, they'd count. The models are now "shards", is that right?
Well, they're named shards. The 7th Ed Necron codex removed generic shards from the army list and instead added "C'Tan Shard of the Nightbringer" and "C'Tan Shard of the Deciever" (and "Transcendent C'Tan", for what it's worth, that's also a unique character on a similar power level to the shards).
Most people foroget they exist because rules-wise they aren't terribly amazing for their points (random shooting attacks... woo will I roll the D thunderbolt or the terrible 'unit w/ bolters' power this turn when I'm targeting a Super Heavy?).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 05:53:52
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Anghor Prok
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 20:44:16
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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taskforce Harbinger 3000pts Ishvale Ash Rats Violet Fems+ 2000ptsHouse Cadmus Knights and Defenders 3500
Deathwatch 6500 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/12 05:04:58
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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Matt.Kingsley wrote: Weyrell wrote: DarkStarSabre wrote:Now for my contribution here...
Nightbringer and the Deceiver.
Like the IG colonel SCs and Brother Bethor their models are still around - as generic C'tan shards but the distinct special rules and lore relating to them is gone. They didn't die. They aren't even really mentioned in the Newcron lore. They literally just poofed.
Which is a shame as Nightbringer's old 3rd ed Lore was fantastic - the fact his actions left a psychological scar on the psyche of all intelligent races - i.e. he's the reason we fear death to the extent that our visualisation of it is based on him.
Yup, they'd count. The models are now "shards", is that right?
Well, they're named shards. The 7th Ed Necron codex removed generic shards from the army list and instead added "C'Tan Shard of the Nightbringer" and "C'Tan Shard of the Deciever" (and "Transcendent C'Tan", for what it's worth, that's also a unique character on a similar power level to the shards).
Most people foroget they exist because rules-wise they aren't terribly amazing for their points (random shooting attacks... woo will I roll the D thunderbolt or the terrible 'unit w/ bolters' power this turn when I'm targeting a Super Heavy?).
Kind of a huge demotion from their 3rd ed appearance though.
Go from being Star God to Bit of Star God.
Imagine... Marneus Calgar....Ultramarine Sergeant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/12 05:36:15
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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DarkStarSabre wrote:Kind of a huge demotion from their 3rd ed appearance though.
Go from being Star God to Bit of Star God.
I dunno man, makes sense to me. I mean, given the fluff of 40k gods, it just seems that if they had their full presence and full whatevers about them on a single battlefield, they should be gamebreakingly powerful.
There's a reason we don't have rules and models for Khorne, Nurlge, the Emperor, Ceggorach, Isha, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/13 13:58:38
Subject: Re:List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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From the grey knights: Grandmaster Mordrak
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"Glory in our suffering, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint"
-Paul of Tarsus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/13 16:37:07
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Ensis Ferrae wrote:I dunno man, makes sense to me. I mean, given the fluff of 40k gods, it just seems that if they had their full presence and full whatevers about them on a single battlefield, they should be gamebreakingly powerful.
40k has never cared much about lore power when statting things.
There's a reason we don't have rules and models for Khorne, Nurlge, the Emperor, Ceggorach, Isha, etc.
Because they cannot enter the material universe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/17 13:07:02
Subject: List of Races/Characters removed from 40K?
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
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Nightbringer and Deciever still exist but got retconned into Pokemon.
And Sly Marbo was never removed from the game, Sly Marbo removed the game from him.
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