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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/07 23:13:25
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Rosebuddy wrote: Monkey Tamer wrote:Part of getting what you want is diplomacy, and BLM hasn't understood this. All they're doing is creating more enemies instead of gathering more supporters.
There's no point to diplomacy when the other side does not want to talk to you no matter what and have nothing to gain from talking to you.
Bernie Sanders clearly has no care for Blacks and no desire to talk to them. That's why BLM chased him off the podium at his rally in Seattle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/07 23:30:29
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Relapse wrote:Rosebuddy wrote: Monkey Tamer wrote:Part of getting what you want is diplomacy, and BLM hasn't understood this. All they're doing is creating more enemies instead of gathering more supporters.
There's no point to diplomacy when the other side does not want to talk to you no matter what and have nothing to gain from talking to you.
Bernie Sanders clearly has no care for Blacks and no desire to talk to them. That's why BLM chased him off the podium at his rally in Seattle.
The biggest thing we all have to gain is for them to get the hell out of traffic. Because making people annoyed and slowing people down does not win hearts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/07 23:47:11
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Frazzled wrote:This is a whole world of controversy I had not heard about. interesting.
My closest friend is transgender, and previously I had not known of the antipathy that exists between the transgender community and the larger gay community. She says that they were thrown under the bus by the gay community, because it was thought that the public could accept gays easier than transgender people.
Relapse wrote:Bernie Sanders clearly has no care for Blacks and no desire to talk to them. That's why BLM chased him off the podium at his rally in Seattle.
99% sure you're being sarcastic here right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 00:10:23
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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AlexHolker wrote:
But the LGBT movement is not the Workers' Movement. The goal of the LGBT movement is not to overthrow capitalism to make way for a Gay World Order, it is to assimilate into the existing society. Capitalism cannot co-opt that without giving them what they want.
It isn't a very good movement that wants to fully integrate its members into an unjust society divided up along race, gender and class. Assimilating into the existing society isn't all that great if you're black, for example. Poor or mentally ill LGBT people wouldn't do well either. You don't actually care about all, say, gay men if you don't care that some are going to end up living in want and some are going to end up vastly more likely to be shot by police. Likewise you don't actually care about all LGBT people if you don't care that some will be mistreated as women, some will struggle with depression and some will be homeless. That isn't solidarity at all.
Capitalism absolutely can co-opt that by claiming to care about LGBT people but only actually accepting the demographics with the most purchasing power as long as they aren't too far from what straight people want them to be. Indeed, middle class white gay cismen can suppress their gayness to gain acceptance but as soon as they veer outside of that narrow range of accepted behaviour they become a target.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 01:39:33
Subject: Re:BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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I saw BLM and thought "Bureau of Land Management"... I was very confused for about the first three posts of this thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 01:55:55
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Ouze wrote:
Relapse wrote:Bernie Sanders clearly has no care for Blacks and no desire to talk to them. That's why BLM chased him off the podium at his rally in Seattle.
99% sure you're being sarcastic here right?
Hope so, considering, ya know... the photos from the 1960s showing a spry young Bernard walking alongside the likes of MLK, and even being arrested alongside other Civil Rights marchers....
I think that the huge difference between BLM, and MLK (since he's been brought up) is that MLK was extremely clear in what he wanted, and had a very eloquent way of showing it. The BLM people just come off as uneducated, unclear on their goals, and generally portray themselves in such a way that they force the public into two camps: for and against.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 02:03:08
Subject: Re:BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Thinkgs getting tense in the cities... A cop is reported shot and "not moving" in Dallas EDIT: DFW Scanner @DFWscanner Shots Fired (Dallas) Dallas PD reports shots fired at a large demonstration in downtown Dallas. Requesting EMS on a rush. AVOID THIS AREA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 02:06:35
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Ensis Ferrae wrote: Ouze wrote:
Relapse wrote:Bernie Sanders clearly has no care for Blacks and no desire to talk to them. That's why BLM chased him off the podium at his rally in Seattle.
99% sure you're being sarcastic here right?
Hope so, considering, ya know... the photos from the 1960s showing a spry young Bernard walking alongside the likes of MLK, and even being arrested alongside other Civil Rights marchers....
I think that the huge difference between BLM, and MLK (since he's been brought up) is that MLK was extremely clear in what he wanted, and had a very eloquent way of showing it. The BLM people just come off as uneducated, unclear on their goals, and generally portray themselves in such a way that they force the public into two camps: for and against.
I think Bernie didn't engage them at all at that rally. Engaging as in discussing their issue. He made the smart move of not saying anything and walking away. IIRC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 02:35:47
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Ensis Ferrae wrote:Hope so, considering, ya know... the photos from the 1960s showing a spry young Bernard walking alongside the likes of MLK, and even being arrested alongside other Civil Rights marchers....
I'm sure Relapse can speak for himself but I am fairly certain he meant it ironically; that some BLM protests are so divisive they alienate natural allies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 11:15:30
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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OgreChubbs wrote:Relapse wrote:Rosebuddy wrote: Monkey Tamer wrote:Part of getting what you want is diplomacy, and BLM hasn't understood this. All they're doing is creating more enemies instead of gathering more supporters.
There's no point to diplomacy when the other side does not want to talk to you no matter what and have nothing to gain from talking to you.
Bernie Sanders clearly has no care for Blacks and no desire to talk to them. That's why BLM chased him off the podium at his rally in Seattle.
The biggest thing we all have to gain is for them to get the hell out of traffic. Because making people annoyed and slowing people down does not win hearts.
Finally someone else who understands.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 13:05:03
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Ouze wrote: Frazzled wrote:This is a whole world of controversy I had not heard about. interesting.
My closest friend is transgender, and previously I had not known of the antipathy that exists between the transgender community and the larger gay community. She says that they were thrown under the bus by the gay community, because it was thought that the public could accept gays easier than transgender people.
I'm uncertain what thrown under a bus means, but I will say there's this misconception that because LGBT is one word, we are one warm house full of people.
The thing we have in common is that we are all fighting for the same things - equality, protection, safety and acceptance.
There are gays who do not support Bi, Trans or other minorities. There are even feminist trans who do not support the wider group of trans.
It's a beautiful flag, but an ugly house.
This division is just a symptom that's reached the public eye.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 13:36:07
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Buttery Commissar wrote: Ouze wrote: Frazzled wrote:This is a whole world of controversy I had not heard about. interesting.
My closest friend is transgender, and previously I had not known of the antipathy that exists between the transgender community and the larger gay community. She says that they were thrown under the bus by the gay community, because it was thought that the public could accept gays easier than transgender people.
I'm uncertain what thrown under a bus means, but I will say there's this misconception that because LGBT is one word, we are one warm house full of people.
The thing we have in common is that we are all fighting for the same things - equality, protection, safety and acceptance.
There are gays who do not support Bi, Trans or other minorities. There are even feminist trans who do not support the wider group of trans.
It's a beautiful flag, but an ugly house.
This division is just a symptom that's reached the public eye.
I was unaware of a division as well. Granted I've only personally known a few gay individuals, and they were either white or latino. Interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 13:39:27
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I've known of the division between gay and bi for a long time.
I think it's fething stupid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 14:57:20
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MrDwhitey wrote:I've known of the division between gay and bi for a long time. I think it's fething stupid. Hell, there was even division between gay men and lesbians in the past (don't know whether it is still there now). OT but anybody interested in the political nature of the gay rights struggle in the UK should check out Pride. It's a great true story and has an amazing cast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 15:41:50
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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I had a discussion with a friend of mine who is one of the leaders of the LGBT movement in the state and specifically talked about how throwing everyone together would eventually be problematic. There are certain elements of crossover but in the end the issues transgender Americans are dealing with are not the same as gay Americans, or even bisexual ones. The longer it goes on the greater the gulf and its visibility become especially as one group gains acceptance but the other does not.
I was reminded of when the NAACP asked AIM (American Indian Movement) to join them back in the 60s and AIM said no because, while both minority groups, they had completely different problems.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0008/07/08 15:44:40
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Frazzled wrote:OgreChubbs wrote:Relapse wrote:Rosebuddy wrote: Monkey Tamer wrote:Part of getting what you want is diplomacy, and BLM hasn't understood this. All they're doing is creating more enemies instead of gathering more supporters.
There's no point to diplomacy when the other side does not want to talk to you no matter what and have nothing to gain from talking to you.
Bernie Sanders clearly has no care for Blacks and no desire to talk to them. That's why BLM chased him off the podium at his rally in Seattle.
The biggest thing we all have to gain is for them to get the hell out of traffic. Because making people annoyed and slowing people down does not win hearts.
Finally someone else who understands.
I have been friends with people like this who see disrupting traffic and other such protests(My school personally had on where they prevented people from entering the library.
The sentiment is weird, but from what I can gather is that
Because protests are about disrupting the peace, and that anger is good, that if you get angry and disrupt enough, people will finally see the problems.
Automatically Appended Next Post: MrDwhitey wrote:I've known of the division between gay and bi for a long time.
I think it's fething stupid.
I have known a gay man who dislikes people who are Bi.
His reasoning was that because they are attracted to both, it just proves to people that you can just choose to be gay or not if you wish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 15:49:04
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Buttery Commissar wrote: Ouze wrote: Frazzled wrote:This is a whole world of controversy I had not heard about. interesting.
My closest friend is transgender, and previously I had not known of the antipathy that exists between the transgender community and the larger gay community. She says that they were thrown under the bus by the gay community, because it was thought that the public could accept gays easier than transgender people.
I'm uncertain what thrown under a bus means, but I will say there's this misconception that because LGBT is one word, we are one warm house full of people.
The thing we have in common is that we are all fighting for the same things - equality, protection, safety and acceptance.
There are gays who do not support Bi, Trans or other minorities. There are even feminist trans who do not support the wider group of trans.
It's a beautiful flag, but an ugly house.
This division is just a symptom that's reached the public eye.
The only person to openly criticise me for being Bi was themselves Trans. It's apparently just a "cool" sexuality that people made up to fit in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 15:50:19
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hotsauceman1 wrote:
I have known a gay man who dislikes people who are Bi.
His reasoning was that because they are attracted to both, it just proves to people that you can just choose to be gay or not if you wish.
Nothing stopping gay people from being absolutely idiotic.
Avatar 720 wrote:
The only person to openly criticise me for being Bi was themselves Trans. It's apparently just a "cool" sexuality that people made up to fit in.
Hey I criticise you for it too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 15:58:24
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MrDwhitey wrote:Avatar 720 wrote:
The only person to openly criticise me for being Bi was themselves Trans. It's apparently just a "cool" sexuality that people made up to fit in.
Hey I criticise you for it too.
I said 'person'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 18:15:16
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Ahtman wrote:I had a discussion with a friend of mine who is one of the leaders of the LGBT movement in the state and specifically talked about how throwing everyone together would eventually be problematic. There are certain elements of crossover but in the end the issues transgender Americans are dealing with are not the same as gay Americans, or even bisexual ones. The longer it goes on the greater the gulf and its visibility become especially as one group gains acceptance but the other does not.
I was reminded of when the NAACP asked AIM (American Indian Movement) to join them back in the 60s and AIM said no because, while both minority groups, they had completely different problems.
While comparable, that's really where it stops.
There is a very muddied ground between LGBTQ, it's not a team sport where you can only be one of the things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 18:18:45
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 18:56:40
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Ahtman wrote:Was this protest before or after two more black men were killed by police recently?
It was after.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 21:38:50
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Ouze wrote: Frazzled wrote:This is a whole world of controversy I had not heard about. interesting.
My closest friend is transgender, and previously I had not known of the antipathy that exists between the transgender community and the larger gay community. She says that they were thrown under the bus by the gay community, because it was thought that the public could accept gays easier than transgender people.
Part of that has to do with changes within the gay subculture, specifically gay males. In the first part of the 20th century, gay men, if they were talked about at all, were universally viewed as "sissyboys" "nancys" "pussys" what have you. The image was of a limp-wristed, lisping, effeminate male.
There was a huge push away from this starting in the 70's with what was called "Castro culture". The big, muscle-bound, leather wearing, walrus mustache stereotype. It was a deliberate attempt to make male homosexuality more masculine. Suddenly every gay guy needed ripped abs and huge pecs.
Transgenderism, at least Male to Female, drudges up a lot of the negative stereotypes of gay men as weak, effeminate males, for a lot of gay men, something they wish to avoid.
The fact that transgenderism is quite different from homosexuality, but still overlap a lot on the old Venn diagram is why, to me at least, there is some animosity between the groups.
The situation could be similar amongst the lesbian population, but I only know 2, and they're so femme and hot that I don't think they worry about these things, or at least ever brought it up in passing.
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Being LGBT does not mean you are a good or bad person, any more than being straight or cisgender.
So basically, donkey-caves exist in all walks of life, and use their opinions to hurt people.
In the case of gays vs bisexuals, it's often that they refuse to accept it is a valid sexuality. That there is no middle-ground of identity.
Gays vs trans, the same reasons other people dislike trans people, but with the added difficulty of "is a trans man who likes men gay or straight?" and "is a trans women who likes men gay or straight?" Etc etc until we run out of combinations of genders and sexualities.
Trans vs trans - not all trans people wish to physically transition to the same extent others do. Transition is very personal. Some believe if you ain't done it all, you're a .. Wishy washy trans person? Uncommitted.
There's also old gay and trans vs young gay and trans - youngsters do not have to deal with the pain that people over 50 lived through. "You don't know how good you have it." / "Don't complain about a 1 year waiting list for treatment, when I was your age there was no clinic." etc
Feminist LGBT vs trans - "FtM is a betrayal of your fellow women and a free pass into the patriarchy." MtF - you cannot be a true woman as you have not suffered as women do."
... I could go on all day, but it's much like Dakka or going to work; having one thing in common with people is not enough to mean you get along with them all.
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A lot of it, at least of the sort mentioned in the past few posts, comes from the fact that "the LGBT movement" often really means "white middle-class gay people can have their long-term monogamous relationships recognized with the title 'marriage'", while people who don't fit this nice clean "we're just like you, except gay" image are pushed out of the picture. So, for example, trans issues are given the token T in the acronym, but often ignored when it comes to doing anything with any real substance to it. Or, as in the case of the BLM protest, poor LGBT people who are often the victims of police violence have their concerns ignored, while the police get to use the parade as a way to improve their public image.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/09 01:14:09
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Ok, so here's my crazy 2am ramblings (this seems to be the common time most of my ramblings happen).
The more and more I've been reading into the "great debates of our age" diversity stuff - partially spurred by being more involved in the Geek And Sundry community and partially influenced by it being an increasing aspect of my office's focus.
Anyway, my whole thought of this is, does so much of this stuff end up coming down to Gender, in the dictionary definition of the word, being a thing that society decides exists.
Would, for example, things be improved if society and legislation starts thinking of people as transsexual as opposed to transgender.
Transsexuality, is effectively just a biological wiring difference. Like some people are left handed, some people can roll their tongues, some peoples bodies display different physical characteristics than their mind expects.
Anything more than that, I'm left questioning, "isn't that just layers put on by society?"
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Compel wrote:Anything more than that, I'm left questioning, "isn't that just layers put on by society?"
It is, but at the same time those layers are really significant. And a lot of the trouble transgender people get from society involves gender roles and presentation, not what a person has in their pants.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/09 06:45:54
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Ouze wrote: Ensis Ferrae wrote:Hope so, considering, ya know... the photos from the 1960s showing a spry young Bernard walking alongside the likes of MLK, and even being arrested alongside other Civil Rights marchers....
I'm sure Relapse can speak for himself but I am fairly certain he meant it ironically; that some BLM protests are so divisive they alienate natural allies.
You are correct. Automatically Appended Next Post: Frazzled wrote:OgreChubbs wrote:Relapse wrote:Rosebuddy wrote: Monkey Tamer wrote:Part of getting what you want is diplomacy, and BLM hasn't understood this. All they're doing is creating more enemies instead of gathering more supporters.
There's no point to diplomacy when the other side does not want to talk to you no matter what and have nothing to gain from talking to you.
Bernie Sanders clearly has no care for Blacks and no desire to talk to them. That's why BLM chased him off the podium at his rally in Seattle.
The biggest thing we all have to gain is for them to get the hell out of traffic. Because making people annoyed and slowing people down does not win hearts.
Finally someone else who understands.
That is my biggest bitch about these people.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/09 16:07:39
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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SemperMortis wrote: MrDwhitey wrote:
That, and stop trying to stir gak, which as a mod I find amusing.
What he said may have been wholly incorrect, but to then put words in his mouth is trashy. He said they're excessively racist, and as a group they discriminate. He did not say that they do so more than the aforementioned groups.
I've already said before when a poster said that BLM is as bad as KKK, that the poster was 100% incorrect.
Thank you, I couldn't have said it better myself. Killkrazy if you would like to have words with me in private feel free to PM me, if you do not then please stop "trying to stir Gak" to quote MrDwhitey.
I would also like to agree that the KKK is worse then BLM, but given time they might become just as bad.
I am happy to have words in public.
Your claim that BLM is excessively racist is not supported by the evidence. Just look at pictures of their rallies and count the number of white people.
I am not trying to stir the gak. As a user when I disagree with someone's opinions I have a right to make a statement against it. I used sarcasm in this case because I found your particular statement to be silly and wished to poke fun at it.
I am glad that you agree the KKK is worse than BLM. I guess in time BLM might become just as bad, or maybe KKK and Aryan Nation will become a lot worse than they already are. Or maybe they will reform completely. It's pure speculation, and not much use when we are supposedly discussing a factual event of recent history.
Here is a long but very good legal opinion on the BLM and people's reaction to them, which points out reasons why BLM are not racist.
http://backspace.com/notes/2016/07/law-professors-response-to-black-lives-matter-shirt-complaint.php
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/09 23:35:56
Subject: BLM delay have demands for pride parade
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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This may be one of the greatest and most concise insights into education I've ever read.
Premise: You are not paying for my opinion.
Critique: You are not paying me to pretend I don’t have one.
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