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 Mr Morden wrote:
re the Eldar - the Craftworld Paths and the Dark Eldar soul draining are not the only ways.

Corsairs survive without either Soul Stones or soul drain and Eldar from either of the two prime communities can become Corsairs.

Its risky - whats not clear is if Corsairs are all adults when they choose this life or if they have children in the void and have to teech the how to survive..

Corsairs do both of those things...

tneva82 wrote:

 Sersi wrote:

Sure, and they could kill off the Emperor, except they won't. The same with Slaanesh, who is even more integral to 40K than AOS. The people wishing for Ynnead to be born and Slaanesh to be beaten are forgetting the Eldar's theme. Eldar = Tolkien Elves. They are a dying race, they are never coming back from the Fall. The Fall is their defining trait. A reflection of there own cultural flaws. Ynnead's existence is about as real as Isha being still alive. Most Eldar don't believe either are true. GW is not likely to ever lets us know for sure; as there just fluffy background elements.

With regard to Slaanesh being changed from sexual debauchery. Well, s/he never was just about sex in the first place. S/he doesn't even need a new niche, just need to expand what the already have. Slaanesh owns six of the seven deadly sins after all. If you actually read what little has been written about Slaanesh and hir followers in AOS they haven't toned it down at all. GW actually doubled down of the excess and violence.

And having slaanesh off for a while before return is bad idea...how? As it is slaanesh is unlikely to get new models anyway before comes back in aos so in practice what change to slaanesh? Have him off for a while though opens up new possibilities in fluff.

Why don't you explain where there are any "40K" indications of Slaanesh being taken off the table? Then explain why it would be a good idea. Slaanesh got plenty of face time in End Times. Slaanesh was the only god that actually manifested and took direct action in the war. In AOS Slaanesh has a major story line that will tie into hir return.

Also of all Slaanesh doesn't need new models, outside of a the Keeper of Secrets and Fiends. Just like Nurgle and Tzeentch need their greater Daemons, elites. Slaanesh did get new plastic kits, years before others. If having Slaanesh gone opens up new possibilities for the Fluff the same could be said for the other three. Which is why every time getting rid of Slaanesh comes up its simple bias. I don't like it and never mind the people that do.


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 Imateria wrote:

Ynnead comming into existence and severing their connection to Slaanesh won't change the fact that they are considered a dying race, they'll still be seperated all around the galaxy on Craftworlds or Maiden Worlds.

No Ynnead being a nascent godling like the star child is perfectly fine. I'd even support that. But what they're talking about is Ynnead actually being powerful enough to defeat Slaanesh. Despite Slaanesh having devoured 99.9% of all Eldar souls. Despite having devoured the majority of the Eldar pantheon. Despite all the humans and aliens souls that its fed on since its birth. Despite being worshiped by vastly more beings, and drawing on fundamental emotions. Somehow Ynnead is going to beat Slaanesh, how? I mean even Harlies knows its preposterous. Which is why Cegorach plans to trick Slaanesh into using her power to restore the Eldar.

 Sersi wrote:

Why don't you explain where there are any "40K" indications of Slaanesh being taken off the table? Then explain why it would be a good idea. Slaanesh got plenty of face time in End Times. Slaanesh was the only god that actually manifested and took direct action in the war. In AOS Slaanesh has a major story line that will tie into hir return.

Howabout the whole eldar plan that's been hinted in recent books?

There's hints pointing that and Slaanesh is not going to get any new models until it comes back in AOS. Having him off screen gives GW good excuse to not releasing models for Slaanesh in 40k so for all intents and purposes slaanesh is already out of support in 40k as it is...Having him taken temporarily off would at least give better excuse for no support than "no models".

You seriously 100% straight face think there's 0% chance GW doesn't temporarily write off slaanesh in 40k as a reason to no models until it comes back in 40k and AOS? There's already hints toward that plan in 40k fluff(funnily which you mentioned yourself) though GW DOESN'T NEED FLUFF REASONS IN OLD BOOKS! If they want him off they can do it even if it requires rewriting eldar fluff from scratch. It doesn't matter what you or I think is logical. It doesn't matter what was written in last codex. What matters is what GW decides to do.

More "Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits" discussion, less "all that other stuff", in this thread please.

(All that other interesting speculation can, of course, be posted in the appropriate sub-forum - thanks!)

I feel like this CSM thing coming in the near future will a CSM vs Eldar themed campaign. Platsic Eldrad and Kharn models are a good start. I'm hoping Ahriman will be next, perhaps Plastic Phoenix lords as well.

pepsuber wrote:
I feel like this CSM thing coming in the near future will a CSM vs Eldar themed campaign. Platsic Eldrad and Kharn models are a good start. I'm hoping Ahriman will be next, perhaps Plastic Phoenix lords as well.

That seems beyond unlikely to me. At best campaign involving Eldar and CSM is what I expect.

pm713 wrote:

pepsuber wrote:
I feel like this CSM thing coming in the near future will a CSM vs Eldar themed campaign. Platsic Eldrad and Kharn models are a good start. I'm hoping Ahriman will be next, perhaps Plastic Phoenix lords as well.

That seems beyond unlikely to me. At best campaign involving Eldar and CSM is what I expect.

A part 2 of Fenris could easily see Magnus (and Tzeentch) leading the chaos effort to destroy the Wolves and destabilize the Imperium, while it would make perfect sense for one of the other prescient planners, one opposed to chaos, to get involved.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

pm713 wrote:

pepsuber wrote:
I feel like this CSM thing coming in the near future will a CSM vs Eldar themed campaign. Platsic Eldrad and Kharn models are a good start. I'm hoping Ahriman will be next, perhaps Plastic Phoenix lords as well.

That seems beyond unlikely to me. At best campaign involving Eldar and CSM is what I expect.

A part 2 of Fenris could easily see Magnus (and Tzeentch) leading the chaos effort to destroy the Wolves and destabilize the Imperium, while it would make perfect sense for one of the other prescient planners, one opposed to chaos, to get involved.

Seems more likely that Fenris pt2 will give rules for Chaos, Grey Knights and Space Wolves only. Probably Space Marines too. Eldar are not likely to pop up.

Kharn was supposed to be on the cover / in the new monthly White Dwarf that releases in September? This note from Atia's blog suggests that the new White Dwarf will be a "look back" on the prior month instead of a look ahead like it has normally been. That means we should expect an August release for Kharn / other 40k goodies.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/960
Hi!

Informations regarding the new formate of the WD - via AdHocGames, TGA Community, via his GW trade reps

"Just gotten off the phone with my rep, not much AoS to report on but i did get some information about the new White Dwarf launching in september. As you probably all know it's going back to monthly publication BUT the release schedule is remaining a weekly one. New releases will be announced first via social media, White Dwarf itself will be looking back on the past months releases, talking about the hobby etc. The goal is to move it away from just being an advertisement, and instead a must buy for hobbyists again.

I also found out what the free gift with the first issue is. Alas i cannot say, i've been sworn to secrecy. I can confirm though that it's a miniature, and it will be for AoS. If you were to look at items priced £18, you'd get a clearer idea of what to expect."

That would be the death of WD leaks.

regards,
Bob

Items that are 18 GBP for Age of Sigmar?

Fyreslayers
Battlesmith
Auric Runemaster
Grimwrath Berzerker

Khorne Bloodbound
Slaughterpriest with Hackblade and Wrathhammer
Slaughterpriest
Aspiring Deathbringer with Goreaxe and Skullhammer
Exalted Deathbringer with Impaling Spear
Skullgrinder
Skarr Bloodwrath

Stormcast Eternals
Knight-Vexillor,

Kanluwen - you should post that in the other White Dwarf thread.

Sigh...of course it is Sigmar stuff. Lame.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Sigh...of course it is Sigmar stuff. Lame.

In fairness it is probably a Sigmarine.

I like the releases by social media though.

 Bulldogging wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Sigh...of course it is Sigmar stuff. Lame.

In fairness it is probably a Sigmarine.

I like the releases by social media though.

Social media releases is a better way to do things. A very forward movement for GW, considering their past. Good to hear.

As for the sigmar freebie, if it's a brand new model, that would be great. If not, (most likely of the two) then of well. Hard to complain about free stuff when you plan on picking the mag up anyways.

 Bulldogging wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Sigh...of course it is Sigmar stuff. Lame.

In fairness it is probably a Sigmarine.

I like the releases by social media though.

Because a Sigmarine is useful to 99% of their fanbase...

I am really surprised they didn't do a Space Marine. They are the top selling army. Instead, a good majority of players will either see the AOS character and turn away(40K only players) or see that it is just another Sigmarine and turn away (non-Stormcast players). For being their "best cover mount ever" they sure dropped the ball.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Bulldogging wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Sigh...of course it is Sigmar stuff. Lame.

In fairness it is probably a Sigmarine.

I like the releases by social media though.

Because a Sigmarine is useful to 99% of their fanbase...

I am really surprised they didn't do a Space Marine. They are the top selling army. Instead, a good majority of players will either see the AOS character and turn away(40K only players) or see that it is just another Sigmarine and turn away (non-Stormcast players). For being their "best cover mount ever" they sure dropped the ball.

I was just making a joke about how it's Space Marines in Fantasy

I'm surprised they didn't take this opportunity to make it one of the new "Dwarf" models. Though I guess it could still be.

A Whyte Dwrf could be cool. Where did I put that 25 years of GW model again? An Impaling Spear Khorne guy or another Bloodbound guy would be preferable as a tie-in with Gorechosen and to celebrate the returm of Khârn. But it'll be a Sigmarine.


How does one GET one of those new oldschool WDs though? The AoS issue was sold out minutes after the hobby store opened (and I'm in another city this time) and online was a wasteland as well. I don't want to chance a subscription yet (oh glorious youth), especially with no deal still running.

Binabik15 wrote:
A Whyte Dwrf could be cool. Where did I put that 25 years of GW model again? An Impaling Spear Khorne guy or another Bloodbound guy would be preferable as a tie-in with Gorechosen and to celebrate the returm of Khârn. But it'll be a Sigmarine.

White dwarf sigmarined...

 Gamgee wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
I can't see a Deathwatch book being part of the Black Crusade campaign.

Guess we will see who's in it. If it is Chaos vs Eldar, I suppose the two most popular non-Marine factions might be able to hold up their own book...

Come on shouldn't it be obvious? Deathwatch vs Genestealer cult. Weren't there rumors the cult would be its own mini army?

It will be.

tneva82 wrote:

Binabik15 wrote:
A Whyte Dwrf could be cool. Where did I put that 25 years of GW model again? An Impaling Spear Khorne guy or another Bloodbound guy would be preferable as a tie-in with Gorechosen and to celebrate the returm of Khârn. But it'll be a Sigmarine.

White dwarf sigmarined...

Not Fyre Slyre'd?

The Deathwatch release could be in August if that source quoted by War of Sigmar is correct. And the Chaos stuff... confusion confusion

Warhams-77 wrote:
The Deathwatch release could be in August if that source quoted by War of Sigmar is correct. And the Chaos stuff... confusion confusion

That would be cool. I wouldn't mind getting it sooner than expected.

Binabik15 wrote:
How does one GET one of those new oldschool WDs though? The AoS issue was sold out minutes after the hobby store opened (and I'm in another city this time) and online was a wasteland as well. I don't want to chance a subscription yet (oh glorious youth), especially with no deal still running.

Sold out because it was popular, or sold out because not enough was made/given to the store?

It just seems GW is not producing as much anymore so they can hype us up form everything being "sold out". The old Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo trick.

Binabik15 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Binabik15 wrote:
A Whyte Dwrf could be cool. Where did I put that 25 years of GW model again? An Impaling Spear Khorne guy or another Bloodbound guy would be preferable as a tie-in with Gorechosen and to celebrate the returm of Khârn. But it'll be a Sigmarine.

White dwarf sigmarined...

Not Fyre Slyre'd?

Since they are hellbent on ramming sigmarines down to people's throat no.

(and as much as I hate according to the lore they have written sigmarines is more logical place than fyre slayers. white dwarf if any dwarf would be deemed worthy of being turned to sigmarine)

'Marketing new line' =/= 'ramming down your throat'. C'maaan peeps, the level of angry hyperbole and 'zomg so angry the free thing isn't exactly what I want' is a little silly. I'd love a free CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT but I'm not gonna have an internet tantrum about it. A free thing from a company not known for anything cheap, let alone free, is pretty cool. And at the end of the day it's only a come on to get you to buy the mag - if the mag isn't your cup of tea, and neither is the model, NO-ONE HAS PERSONALLY WRONGED YOU!

I subbed, screw it. GW output lately is good, mag is cheap enough. Let's give it a go and if awful I'll unsub after first quarter. Any free mini can be converted into something useful for my 40K stuff or Necromunda, so I don't really care what it is, and I can laugh at how weird the beakie marine looks in the comic sampler with issue #2. Good times.


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But anyway... where is the Kharn ShakyCam (tm) picture leak? I wanna seeeeee....

Davor wrote:

Binabik15 wrote:
How does one GET one of those new oldschool WDs though? The AoS issue was sold out minutes after the hobby store opened (and I'm in another city this time) and online was a wasteland as well. I don't want to chance a subscription yet (oh glorious youth), especially with no deal still running.

Sold out because it was popular, or sold out because not enough was made/given to the store?

It just seems GW is not producing as much anymore so they can hype us up form everything being "sold out". The old Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo trick.

Both I'd say, as it was unavailable both online and offline and not even people we know in a bookstore selling magazines could get another copy from the distributor. I could have bought every other Nu-WD released until then from the hobby store though, so it must have been real demand for that first Sigmarine.

In the Gorechosen thread Chikout said the new WD has the Slaughterpriest, if that's true I'll need THREE copies. At least. My favourite Khorne model, maybe ever. Just a tad tall

I wouldn't want Slaughterpriest as I already have 3 !!!

Crazy prediction time. White dwarf 131 is the last weekly white dwarf. The September wd is looking back so codex Deathwatch will go up for preorder on August 6th and release on the 13th.

If the new WD is looking 'back', won't the first monthly issue just be the last 4 weeklys bundled together....

 bubber wrote:
If the new WD is looking 'back', won't the first monthly issue just be the last 4 weeklys bundled together....

No. There are no white dwarf weekly issues in August. 131 is the last. It is this gap that makes me believe the new WD is looking back.