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infinite_array wrote:
Does anyone else get an ache in their head when the Trump supporter accuses other people of being part of "the Listen and Believe Crowd"?

Seriously?

This is what eliminated the last shred of his credibility for me. Now I'm just laughing.

I'm not normally one to give up on arguing with people like this, because allowing dangerous ideas to go unchallenging just gives them more credibility, but this is just going round and round. What this election has shown is that some people will argue black is white and there are many people who will accept some serious cognitive dissonance just to fit facts to their own world view.

 The Airman wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 The Airman wrote:
I have no doubt Trump has had his way with some women however they wait decades before saying anything?

You know, this really says a lot about you, politics aside.

I have no doubt Trump might have groped a woman or had sex but I didn't meant to imply that he might of raped someone. But the bottom line here is suddenly all these accusations are coming out of the woodwork right before the election which raises some serious questions as to their credibility.
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To look at it another way, suddenly all these accusations are coming out of the woodwork just after Trump was broadcast on tape talking about how he liked to grab women's pudenda because he was rich and powerful.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 The Airman wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 The Airman wrote:
I have no doubt Trump has had his way with some women however they wait decades before saying anything?

You know, this really says a lot about you, politics aside.

I have no doubt Trump might have groped a woman or had sex but I didn't meant to imply that he might of raped someone. But the bottom line here is suddenly all these accusations are coming out of the woodwork right before the election which raises some serious questions as to their credibility.
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To look at it another way, suddenly all these accusations are coming out of the woodwork just after Trump was broadcast on tape talking about how he liked to grab women's pudenda because he was rich and powerful.

Nah, it's probably like Jimmy Savile where all those men and women were coming out with accusations just after he died. Pretty convenient to do that after he was dead and couldn't defend himself. Of course they all turned out to be false... wait a minute... no, they didn't and he's now known to be possibly the most prolific sexual predator in UK history.

Do you have any evidence to support your suggestion that they are lying as part of an orchestrated Democrat plot other than your suggestion that they are lying as part of an orchestrated Democrat plot?

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Do you have any evidence to support your suggestion that they are lying as part of an orchestrated Democrat plot other than your suggestion that they are lying as part of an orchestrated Democrat plot?

More importantly, how are the Democrats so incompetent at running government yet so very skilled at manipulating public opinion?

By the way, has anyone else seen that Trump's now demanding that Clinton take a drug test before the next debate, because she had too much energy in the last one?

With Trump's projection streak, this is basically a confirmation that he's been doing lines of coke or using some other kind of upper during this campaign.

Sniff, sniff, sniff.

Trump is such a stupid gakker.

What's the point of Clinton taking a drugs test when she inevitably would bias the result with her incredible ninja skillz. Or something. ???



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Trump is a gak head.

Wow, and I was expecting it to just be a dumb rumor.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37667924?ocid=socialflow_twitter

infinite_array wrote:
By the way, has anyone else seen that Trump's now demanding that Clinton take a drug test before the next debate, because she had too much energy in the last one?

With Trump's projection streak, this is basically a confirmation that he's been doing lines of coke or using some other kind of upper during this campaign.

Sniff, sniff, sniff.

He knows he doesn't have to have any proof of anything now. He just has to hint at something and his supporters will run with it. They will now be saying "She does drugs. You can tell" and all he has to do is walk away and say "I didn't say she did, just suggest she should do a drug test. What does she have to prove". Even if she did, for some strange reason, do the test, his supporters would just claim it as being faked. He is
just throwing stuff out and hoping bits stick for someone and gain him a few voters.

 Steve steveson wrote:

infinite_array wrote:
By the way, has anyone else seen that Trump's now demanding that Clinton take a drug test before the next debate, because she had too much energy in the last one?

With Trump's projection streak, this is basically a confirmation that he's been doing lines of coke or using some other kind of upper during this campaign.

Sniff, sniff, sniff.

He knows he doesn't have to have any proof of anything now. He just has to hint at something and his supporters will run with it. They will now be saying "She does drugs. You can tell" and all he has to do is walk away and say "I didn't say she did, just suggest she should do a drug test. What does she have to prove". Even if she did, for some strange reason, do the test, his supporters would just claim it as being faked. He is
just throwing stuff out and hoping bits stick for someone and gain him a few voters.

He's been doing that since the beginning. Suggesting all sorts if things and actions without actually saying them directly. Remember that bit about how the Second Amendment people could "do something" about Hillary?

 The Airman wrote:
I for one don't want to see the world baptized in nuclear fire.
Educate yourselves.

Says the guy who's going to vote for the one who said, 'We have nukes, why don't we use them?" & "Why don't we strike first?"

Here's an interesting read on one of Bill (not actually running for President) Clinton's accusers...

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-ICREPORT-LEWINSKY/pdf/GPO-ICREPORT-LEWINSKY-12.pdf


-Vilegrimm

infinite_array wrote:
By the way, has anyone else seen that Trump's now demanding that Clinton take a drug test before the next debate, because she had too much energy in the last one?

With Trump's projection streak, this is basically a confirmation that he's been doing lines of coke or using some other kind of upper during this campaign.

Sniff, sniff, sniff.

Mid debate, she should agree to it, as long as it's a hair test taken immediately, which can detect 90+ days back. And a real hair too, not whatever that stuff on his head is. Sniffy McSnifferton would poop his pants, not that being a current drug addict would hurt him with his base. If he failed such a test, it was probably rigged by a Mexican , which is Trumps go-to dodge.

She won't though, because she has to appear presidential, unlike Trump.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Do you have any evidence to support your suggestion that they are lying as part of an orchestrated Democrat plot other than your suggestion that they are lying as part of an orchestrated Democrat plot?

well as to the first part? Nothing concrete but there are a number of rather glaring holes in most of these stories.

1:The older lady claimed Trump lifted up the armrest between the 1st class seats to grope her back in the 1980s, problem being is that arm rests in first class didn't raise up back then. This could be a recollection mistake rather then her fabricating a story.

2: One of the ladies who has since come forward has had relatives defend trump and poke holes in her story, Specifically he said that up until Trump refused to show up to her Restaurant she had nothing but great things to say about Trump, after this she did a 180 and started attacking him with accusations.

3: Last one is another lady who has since come forward who literally has pictures of herself with Hillary Clinton, Seems rather fishy to be so close to a candidate and then be sexually assaulted by the other candidate.

Regardless there really isn't solid evidence that Mr. Trump did not do these things.

However, in most Western Cultures we follow the "Innocent until proven guilty" mindset, so with that in mind he really doesn't need evidence he did these things until these women can provide some kind of evidence that he did in fact do this. At the moment the only evidence is a handful of women coming forward years and in some cases DECADES after the fact and accusing Mr Trump of misbehavior. No court in the world would even take this case because of how little evidence could be brought forward.

 Vilegrimm wrote:
Here's an interesting read on one of Bill (not actually running for President) Clinton's accusers...

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-ICREPORT-LEWINSKY/pdf/GPO-ICREPORT-LEWINSKY-12.pdf


-Vilegrimm

Did you know Pee-Wee Herman was once arrested for masturbating in a theater?

Ohh and I forgot the last bit, apparently one of the women who has come forward to accuse Mr Trump is also a secretary working for the Clinton Foundation.

"Innocent until proven guilty" being used as an argument by an anti-Clinton.

HAHAHAHAHA! Tell me another, better jokes could not be written even if someone tried.

Is there any evidence Mr Trump assaulted these women beyond those women's accusations

SemperMortis wrote:
Ohh and I forgot the last bit, apparently one of the women who has come forward to accuse Mr Trump is also a secretary working for the Clinton Foundation.

Ah yes, this tells us a lot about where you get your news.

http://www.snopes.com/jessica-leeds-phone-number-tied-to-clinton-foundation/

Muddying the water will not help your candidate in the end. He's damned by his own words and attitude first and foremost.

SemperMortis wrote:
Is there any evidence Mr Trump assaulted these women beyond those women's accusations

So you're going with sharia law here? unless 3 people witness the rape it never happened?

here's a fun read for you:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

that's your wanna be president, a serial pedophile and rapist.

To tell the truth, I would love it if Clinton and Trump were left at the gate come election night with someone else getting the vote.


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sirlynchmob wrote:

SemperMortis wrote:
Is there any evidence Mr Trump assaulted these women beyond those women's accusations

So you're going with sharia law here? unless 3 people witness the rape it never happened?

here's a fun read for you:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

that's your wanna be president, a serial pedophile and rapist.

That applies to Clinton, also, with Hillery covering up for him.

Relapse wrote:
To tell the truth, I would love it if Clinton and Trump were left at the gate come election night with someone else getting the vote.

Well, the third party vote is a choice between "feth poor people" and "WIFI CAUSES CANCER!!!1!", so it's not like we have a great selection...

Relapse wrote:
To tell the truth, I would love it if Clinton and Trump were left at the gate come election night with someone else getting the vote.


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sirlynchmob wrote:

SemperMortis wrote:
Is there any evidence Mr Trump assaulted these women beyond those women's accusations

So you're going with sharia law here? unless 3 people witness the rape it never happened?

here's a fun read for you:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

that's your wanna be president, a serial pedophile and rapist.

That applies to Clinton, also, with Hillery covering up for him.

oh ya I keep forgetting because bill is accused of it as well, that totally exonerates trump, and I guess because jeffry dalmer killed and ate a bunch of people that makes it ok for trump to do it as well?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

Relapse wrote:
To tell the truth, I would love it if Clinton and Trump were left at the gate come election night with someone else getting the vote.

Well, the third party vote is a choice between "feth poor people" and "WIFI CAUSES CANCER!!!1!", so it's not like we have a great selection...

Clinton is a proven hand in destabilizing Middle East countries among other unsavory things as well as covering up Bill's sexual abuse of women. Trump is heaven knows what.
Some other candidate, suddenly doesn't look that bad to me.

So has the forum decided who is satan for today? Trump? Clinton? Daniel the Pumpkin shagger?

Relapse wrote:
Some other candidate, suddenly doesn't look that bad to me.

Sure, a better candidate would be nice, but it's also nothing more than wishful thinking. Trump or Clinton will win, so the only choice you have is voting Clinton as the obvious lesser of the two evils.

sirlynchmob wrote:

Relapse wrote:
To tell the truth, I would love it if Clinton and Trump were left at the gate come election night with someone else getting the vote.


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sirlynchmob wrote:

SemperMortis wrote:
Is there any evidence Mr Trump assaulted these women beyond those women's accusations

So you're going with sharia law here? unless 3 people witness the rape it never happened?

here's a fun read for you:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

that's your wanna be president, a serial pedophile and rapist.

That applies to Clinton, also, with Hillery covering up for him.

oh ya I keep forgetting because bill is accused of it as well, that totally exonerates trump, and I guess because jeffry dalmer killed and ate a bunch of people that makes it ok for trump to do it as well?

In all fairness, those are currently accusations that have all the validity of the ones against Clinton. With that line of thought, Hillery was complicit in covering up Bill's raping of women, making both, her and Trump, the same level in that regard.

sirlynchmob wrote:

Relapse wrote:
To tell the truth, I would love it if Clinton and Trump were left at the gate come election night with someone else getting the vote.


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sirlynchmob wrote:

SemperMortis wrote:
Is there any evidence Mr Trump assaulted these women beyond those women's accusations

So you're going with sharia law here? unless 3 people witness the rape it never happened?

here's a fun read for you:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

that's your wanna be president, a serial pedophile and rapist.

That applies to Clinton, also, with Hillery covering up for him.

oh ya I keep forgetting because bill is accused of it as well, that totally exonerates trump, and I guess because jeffry dalmer killed and ate a bunch of people that makes it ok for trump to do it as well?

Not only do the accusations against Bill Clinton exonerate Trump of his accusations, but they also convict Hillary, as everyone knows the accusations against a Husband are always the fault of the wife, right guys?

Wouldn't covering it up after it had been committed be the crime of perverting the course of justice, which is not the same level of severity as actually committing the rape.

So if both Bill and Trump raped women, and Hillary helped Bill cover up his rapes (and we really think that the first lady somehow had more power to cover up crimes than the actual president?) then Trump would still be worse than Hillary.