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SemperMortis wrote:
 Spinner wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:


This has possibly been the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.


It can't even be the most blatant violation of our justice system from a candidate this election cycle.

Or did we forget about the twenty-five grand that went to Pam Bondi before she decided not to investigate Trump University?

Or the quarter of a million dollars from Trump's own charity that went to pay off his lost lawsuits and buy tacky crap for him?


What really bothers me and scares me at the same time is that a number of people are so inundated with party politics that they look like this.

For the record I DONT LIKE TRUMP, But I will be voting for him because in my opinion he is the better of possibly the two worst candidates in our nations recent history, at least Obama wasn't a known criminal.

Spinner, this is in no way meant to insult you but I want you to look at this from a neutral perspective. Hillary Clinton Broke Laws, regulations and rules that safe guard our nations security, specifically the integrity of our intelligence Community. She put information that is meant to be classified and kept on secure systems out into the open for the world to see and to use. She then lied about it and made up excuses (Don't really care about this part) and then destroyed all the evidence so at this point the only way we know what got released to the public by her mistake is by hackers coming forward to show us what she released.

You compared that to Trump doing shady business deals and breaking laws regarding the handling of a charitable organization.

Dont get me wrong, Trump is a gak head for doing that but that is like comparing a candle to a bonfire.



I am looking at it from a neutral perspective, and I'd like to ask you to do the same. Have you looked into his career at all? Trump's policies are incoherent, his attitude thin-skinned, his respect for others non-existent, and his record is absolutely shameful. He spouts conspiracy theories like they're going out of style and makes statements that can be revealed as lies with a few clicks on his own Twitter feed. He's spent a lifetime screwing people over and self-aggrandizing from the ashes of other people's livelihoods. There's absolutely no reason to believe that he's prepared to run a country or, if he did, is capable of doing it without running it into the ground for his own benefit - except, of course, for the words of a known con man. Even without the trainwreck of awfulness that is the Republican platform, I couldn't see myself ever voting for a person that is almost literally a kid's movie villain. How would Mr. "Why Can't We Use Nukes If We Have Them?" make America safer? By patting himself on the back every time someone gets shot? By dismantling the Fourth Amendment? By inviting Putin into the Oval Office for a cigar?

I'm not a huge fan of the Clintons, I didn't vote for her in the primary, but like it or not, she's the one adult left in the room. I'm gonna go ahead and vote for Turd Sandwich - this year, she's way better than Giant Douche!
   
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SemperMortis wrote:
 skyth wrote:
It's only considered the most blatant violation of our justice system by people that already hated the Clintons before Hillary ran for office.

They will not accept anything regardless of the multitude of investigations that haven't found anything they did wrong.


They being those of us who are upset that Clinton broke the law and is getting away with it?

The Multitude of investigations HAVE found wrongdoing In fact Director Comey even said as much. He said the only reason he didn't recommend charges was because he couldn't find "intent". He even further went on to say that if others do this they would be prosecuted. Literally spelling out the double standard and you sit here telling me its my imagination because I hate democrats/clinton Everyone is biased my friend, you need to realize yours.


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So, if Clinton were to be convicted, then it'd be perfectly allowable to go after the people involved with the RNC's email server, right?


I don't care WHICH party people are in. If you leak classified intelligence you deserve to have your clearance suspended at the very least. I have never changed my stance on this position be it General Patraeus or Hillary Clinton. Breaking the law is breaking the law regardless of your "intent".



Ah Director comey, you know he's a republican right?

Clinton did not leak classified information though, she had leaked classified information sent to her.

 
   
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 Spinner wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
 Spinner wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:


This has possibly been the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.


It can't even be the most blatant violation of our justice system from a candidate this election cycle.

Or did we forget about the twenty-five grand that went to Pam Bondi before she decided not to investigate Trump University?

Or the quarter of a million dollars from Trump's own charity that went to pay off his lost lawsuits and buy tacky crap for him?


What really bothers me and scares me at the same time is that a number of people are so inundated with party politics that they look like this.

For the record I DONT LIKE TRUMP, But I will be voting for him because in my opinion he is the better of possibly the two worst candidates in our nations recent history, at least Obama wasn't a known criminal.

Spinner, this is in no way meant to insult you but I want you to look at this from a neutral perspective. Hillary Clinton Broke Laws, regulations and rules that safe guard our nations security, specifically the integrity of our intelligence Community. She put information that is meant to be classified and kept on secure systems out into the open for the world to see and to use. She then lied about it and made up excuses (Don't really care about this part) and then destroyed all the evidence so at this point the only way we know what got released to the public by her mistake is by hackers coming forward to show us what she released.

You compared that to Trump doing shady business deals and breaking laws regarding the handling of a charitable organization.

Dont get me wrong, Trump is a gak head for doing that but that is like comparing a candle to a bonfire.



I am looking at it from a neutral perspective, and I'd like to ask you to do the same. Have you looked into his career at all? Trump's policies are incoherent, his attitude thin-skinned, his respect for others non-existent, and his record is absolutely shameful. He spouts conspiracy theories like they're going out of style and makes statements that can be revealed as lies with a few clicks on his own Twitter feed. He's spent a lifetime screwing people over and self-aggrandizing from the ashes of other people's livelihoods. There's absolutely no reason to believe that he's prepared to run a country or, if he did, is capable of doing it without running it into the ground for his own benefit - except, of course, for the words of a known con man. Even without the trainwreck of awfulness that is the Republican platform, I couldn't see myself ever voting for a person that is almost literally a kid's movie villain. How would Mr. "Why Can't We Use Nukes If We Have Them?" make America safer? By patting himself on the back every time someone gets shot? By dismantling the Fourth Amendment? By inviting Putin into the Oval Office for a cigar?

I'm not a huge fan of the Clintons, I didn't vote for her in the primary, but like it or not, she's the one adult left in the room. I'm gonna go ahead and vote for Turd Sandwich - this year, she's way better than Giant Douche!


LMAO I love the reference if nothing else

I respect your point of view, I just happen to disagree. In my opinion I would prefer the unknown quality of Mr Trump in regards to national security and diplomacy over the known quality that is Mrs Clinton.

I will vote for a businessman who has made shady deals in the past and who tends to say inflammatory things rather then the person who violated national security.

I am biased in my opinion keep in mind (something I openly admit) because I worked in the intelligence field and dedicated years of my life to safeguarding information and intelligence. I literally put blood sweat and tears into safeguarding our Intelligence Community that Mrs. Clinton in a single move managed to compromise. TO say I am pissed would be a massive understatement. Either way, South park is amazing.

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 The Airman wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
So, you're arguing that Assanges internet access, in the Ecuadorian embassy in the UK, has been cut because he said some things about the US?

Yeah, that's not a completely impractical conspiracy theory


It would be a shame if we could easily get this information from a trusted si-

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787889195507417088

Oh. Such conspiracy many wow. Right guise?!


So you have Wikileaks' Twitter account as your one source. I do believe "educate yourself" was the way you put it earlier.


Which is why I use words like "apparently". We'll see in the near future what has happened exactly but I wouldn't be surprised if Assange was "taken out". There were tweeted and deleted around the same timeframe.


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Ah Director comey, you know he's a republican right?

Clinton did not leak classified information though, she had leaked classified information sent to her.


It is against the law to have classified information on an unsecured network. The second she saw this intel was classified she should have taken steps to safeguard it, her inaction is just as damning as those who sent it.

And realistically there would have had to have been a system in place to move that information, her aids wouldn't have had the privilege to just grab intel and send it, someone would have had to have forced the Server admins and I doubt it was an aide. But that is not proven and never will be since everyone involved in the case has an immunity agreement

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SemperMortis wrote:
]The Multitude of investigations HAVE found wrongdoing In fact Director Comey even said as much. He said the only reason he didn't recommend charges was because he couldn't find "intent". He even further went on to say that if others do this they would be prosecuted. Literally spelling out the double standard and you sit here telling me its my imagination because I hate democrats/clinton


Emphasis mine. This is almost exactly the opposite of what he actually said, not that you care.


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If you're actually not a fan of the guy or his policies, then what's keeping you from voting for one of the third party people? Honest question. The GOP's not going to get better if they keep walking down the Crazy Brick Road, and if they think they can squeeze more votes that way, they'll absolutely do it.

   
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SemperMortis wrote:
sirlynchmob wrote:


Ah Director comey, you know he's a republican right?

Clinton did not leak classified information though, she had leaked classified information sent to her.


It is against the law to have classified information on an unsecured network. The second she saw this intel was classified she should have taken steps to safeguard it, her inaction is just as damning as those who sent it.

And realistically there would have had to have been a system in place to move that information, her aids wouldn't have had the privilege to just grab intel and send it, someone would have had to have forced the Server admins and I doubt it was an aide. But that is not proven and never will be since everyone involved in the case has an immunity agreement


Cool, so if I send you some classified info, I can have you sent to jail. Good to know.

Again, it's not just her, you'd also be taking down mama bear and numerous others.

it's always an aide.

 
   
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Last week tonight was great about the other candidates




Yeah...the POTUS race isn't binary...the check's in the mail...my dog ate my homework...
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SemperMortis wrote:


I will vote for a businessman who has made shady deals in the past and who tends to say inflammatory things rather then the person who violated national security.


A buisnessman about to spend the next 4 years fighting off lawsuits for all the groping and raping he's done. even canada has had enough of his nonsense and is sueing him as well.
http://torontolife.com/city/toronto-trump-tower-lawsuit-feature/

which of course if he's in office will just use your tax dollars to settle.

This is the man hand picked by Putin to win. Trump is obviously a communist sympathizer and a spy. He'd sell off our national security for a buck.

Trump only thinks of trump, to think that he would represent anyone else in america is delusional.

 
   
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 d-usa wrote:
We can have the same stupid argument every month, or we can agree to ignore the people making the same stupid argument every month.


But...but...

   
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 d-usa wrote:
We can have the same stupid argument every month, or we can agree to ignore the people making the same stupid argument every month.


Yeah, you're right. It's just annoying.

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sirlynchmob wrote:
Trump is obviously a communist sympathizer and a spy.


That's taking it somewhat too far. He's a useful idiot for an ex-KGB dictator who knows how to influence a corrupt, narcissistic man-child.

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I would have a problem to vote at all.
How comes that the USA has problems finding an appropriate candidate?

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SemperMortis wrote:
 Spinner wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
 Spinner wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:


This has possibly been the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.


It can't even be the most blatant violation of our justice system from a candidate this election cycle.

Or did we forget about the twenty-five grand that went to Pam Bondi before she decided not to investigate Trump University?

Or the quarter of a million dollars from Trump's own charity that went to pay off his lost lawsuits and buy tacky crap for him?


What really bothers me and scares me at the same time is that a number of people are so inundated with party politics that they look like this.

For the record I DONT LIKE TRUMP, But I will be voting for him because in my opinion he is the better of possibly the two worst candidates in our nations recent history, at least Obama wasn't a known criminal.

Spinner, this is in no way meant to insult you but I want you to look at this from a neutral perspective. Hillary Clinton Broke Laws, regulations and rules that safe guard our nations security, specifically the integrity of our intelligence Community. She put information that is meant to be classified and kept on secure systems out into the open for the world to see and to use. She then lied about it and made up excuses (Don't really care about this part) and then destroyed all the evidence so at this point the only way we know what got released to the public by her mistake is by hackers coming forward to show us what she released.

You compared that to Trump doing shady business deals and breaking laws regarding the handling of a charitable organization.

Dont get me wrong, Trump is a gak head for doing that but that is like comparing a candle to a bonfire.



I am looking at it from a neutral perspective, and I'd like to ask you to do the same. Have you looked into his career at all? Trump's policies are incoherent, his attitude thin-skinned, his respect for others non-existent, and his record is absolutely shameful. He spouts conspiracy theories like they're going out of style and makes statements that can be revealed as lies with a few clicks on his own Twitter feed. He's spent a lifetime screwing people over and self-aggrandizing from the ashes of other people's livelihoods. There's absolutely no reason to believe that he's prepared to run a country or, if he did, is capable of doing it without running it into the ground for his own benefit - except, of course, for the words of a known con man. Even without the trainwreck of awfulness that is the Republican platform, I couldn't see myself ever voting for a person that is almost literally a kid's movie villain. How would Mr. "Why Can't We Use Nukes If We Have Them?" make America safer? By patting himself on the back every time someone gets shot? By dismantling the Fourth Amendment? By inviting Putin into the Oval Office for a cigar?

I'm not a huge fan of the Clintons, I didn't vote for her in the primary, but like it or not, she's the one adult left in the room. I'm gonna go ahead and vote for Turd Sandwich - this year, she's way better than Giant Douche!


LMAO I love the reference if nothing else

I respect your point of view, I just happen to disagree. In my opinion I would prefer the unknown quality of Mr Trump in regards to national security and diplomacy over the known quality that is Mrs Clinton.

I will vote for a businessman who has made shady deals in the past and who tends to say inflammatory things rather then the person who violated national security.

I am biased in my opinion keep in mind (something I openly admit) because I worked in the intelligence field and dedicated years of my life to safeguarding information and intelligence. I literally put blood sweat and tears into safeguarding our Intelligence Community that Mrs. Clinton in a single move managed to compromise. TO say I am pissed would be a massive understatement. Either way, South park is amazing.


After all the idiocy and filth that moron has spewed and all the inappropriate, lewd and unacceptable behavior, you still call Trump an "unknown quality"(I'll assume you meant unknown quantity)? When does it sink in that this guy is a scum bag and an insult to anyone with an IQ above that of a radish?

You say you're pissed? Guess what? It won't be the first time, I guarantee it. The trick is to not shut down the side of your brain that can see fact through the red haze of your rage. You really need to learn that trick.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
I would have a problem to vote at all.
How comes that the USA has problems finding an appropriate candidate?


It doesn't, usually. Obama has done a fine job, and while I don't agree with all of their policies Romney and McCain were good candidates. Bush II was considered a very good candidate, although I think his relative inexperience coupled with a low natural curiosity allowed him to surround himself with some pretty nasty advisors. Gore and Kerry were boring but fine.

The problem wasn't that there weren't good candidates, it's that the voters weren't interested in them. Rubio, Kasich, Jeb... they were fine mainstream republicans, and lost to Trump. Hillary is a flawed but fine candidate, although given that the same party almost never holds the White House for three straight terms in the modern era (Post FDR), this was best shot in an election were the Democrats didn't feel backed into a corner. For the Dems, there's a feeling that there aren't many interesting younger rising stars, given the massive gains the GOP has made in congress, governerships, and State Houses

I think with Hillary you had the Democrat establishment deciding early that she was their woman, and the voters pretty emphatically agreeing. Hard core liberals disagreed, but that's a very small slice of the voter base. With Trump, you had the voting base reject anybody with a hint of establishment about them, so that even Ted Cruz, a US senator that seems to hate government, was seen as too "inside."

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 Polonius wrote:
 Vaktathi wrote:
As much as I enjoy seeing Hillary get pilloried over stuff, the email thing was never going to sink her and she was never going to be indicted or charged, much less convicted over it. First and foremost, no justice department is going to try and stonk a nominee or presumed nominee, that smacks of political interference in elections even if it is not. It certainly wouldnt happen under a DoJ working under a president of the same political party.

More to the point, its not something most people care about or understand. Email policies are like EULA's to most people, and that just doeant rile people up, except largely the only people who care are the people who didnt like Clinton to begin with, which further reinforces the political interference view. That previous secretaries of state apprently engaged in similar behavior and nobody appears to be calling for them to be arrested, charged, shot or jailed, is also telling.

Finally, the Clintons have been through the ringer so many times that this just comes off as more "noise", if whitewater, bengazi, lewinski, etc werent gonna do it, inappropriate email use certainly wasnt. The public became numb to Clinton scandals, her "hate" level has essentially become saturated and misuse of email wasnt going to change the mind of anyone who didnt already have it made up.


The Clinton's are shady people. I think pretty much everybody agrees that they have that combination of weird secrecy and slickness that makes people not really trust them. It's so bad that people actual point to the lack of convictions, or even proof, of wrongdoing as part of the problem. It's hard to tell what they've really done wrong, and how bad it is, compared to many other presidents/candidates.

They are quite likely the most thoroughly investigated couple in world history, with embarrassingly little to show for it. Which means either they actually keep their noses clean, they are nearly superhuman in staying one step away from any wrong doing, or they are consistently able to bamboozle investigators ranging from the National Enquirer through to the US Congress. I'll take either in a head of state, to be honest.
Lol, thats one way of looking at it.

I'd absolutely agree the Clintons are shady, and Hillary engenders a lot of dislike, and there are some good reasons for that and the fact that Trump had been even remotely competitive at points shows how weak a candidate Hillary is and how little enthusiasm there is for her. I suspect that if a Romney were running we'd see a much different race.



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For the record I DONT LIKE TRUMP, But I will be voting for him because in my opinion he is the better of possibly the two worst candidates in our nations recent history, at least Obama wasn't a known criminal.

Spinner, this is in no way meant to insult you but I want you to look at this from a neutral perspective. Hillary Clinton Broke Laws, regulations and rules that safe guard our nations security, specifically the integrity of our intelligence Community. She put information that is meant to be classified and kept on secure systems out into the open for the world to see and to use. She then lied about it and made up excuses (Don't really care about this part) and then destroyed all the evidence so at this point the only way we know what got released to the public by her mistake is by hackers coming forward to show us what she released.

You compared that to Trump doing shady business deals and breaking laws regarding the handling of a charitable organization.

Dont get me wrong, Trump is a gak head for doing that but that is like comparing a candle to a bonfire.


And yet there is no similar fervor to go after other appointees and employees that did similar things.

Im no fan of Hillary, and at this point this is becoming almost physically painful for me to write because of my distaste for her, but if youre voting for the guy who talks about how he can get away with using sexual assault as a pickup line because he's famous, with an unbroken trail of almost uniformally incorrect statements or flat out lies, who seemingly has never told the truth about a single thing in this entire campaign and spends his time getting into personal hissyfits with anyone who offends him, who has a decades long history as a serial adulterer, of bankruptcy and unethical and potentially illegal business actions, who cannot keep his party in line or their support, and is now seemingly setting up for a disputed election, and that's who you see as being materially more suited for the office than Hillary, I'd suggest some existing overriding bias is affecting that decision.


If you dont like Hillary, fine. I don't. But please dont vote Trump just as an anti Hillary vote like Trump is somehow a reasonable alternative. That's like voting to have your hand shoved through a meatgrinder to avoid a sharp kick to the nuts. Vote a third party. Vote yourself. Vote your dog. Vote Mickey Mouse. Vote RoboNixon. Just be honest and lets realize that while Hillary is awful, Trump is not a reasonable alternative. I wont be casting a vote for either.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
Lol, thats one way of looking at it.

I'd absolutely agree the Clintons are shady, and Hillary engenders a lot of dislike, and there are some good reasons for that and the fact that Trump had been even remotely competitive at points shows how weak a candidate Hillary is and how little enthusiasm there is for her. I suspect that if a Romney were running we'd see a much different race.


I'm not so sure she's a weak candidate. There's a theory that at this point, Trump has reached the floor of his support. He's a guy with no experience, no predictable policy stances, lukewarm backing by the party at best, and a litany of personal scandals. And he's polling in the low 40s. That's partisanship, basically. There's a big chunk of the population that is going to vote for a republican, or against a democrat, and that's just it. We don't know how bad a candidate Trump really is yet, because part of partisan politics means supporting whoever is your standard bearer.

Clinton has barely campaigned, and she's bounced between a dead heat and almost 10 points up. She's kicking his ass, and not just in places you'd expect. He had a decent convention bounce that deflated quickly, and Clinton had a bad September with the emails and the basket of deplorables comment (which I still think gained her more support from her base than actually lost her with undecideds), but she's pulled away after every set piece, such as the debates.

The argument is that she's only polling in the upper 40s, and doesn't have a majority. Well, all the Green/Lib supporters can vote that way because the election isn't close. If it were, they'd vote two party, because nobody wants to waste a vote.


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Trump is the worst candidate the US ever had. Just a working hypothesis, but I guess its close to the truth.


Not even close.

George McGovern won several states as an independent on an openly segregationist platform. Without going back to actual slavery, that's about as bad as it gets.

Plenty of candidates have actually done worse than Trump, who will almost certainly win a large number of states. In 1984, Walter Mondale got crushed by 18.2%, and only won Minnesota and DC.

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But!

But!

But they said it was about the will of the people! That it wasn't fair that the people didn't get a say, and they should have the election first to make sure that nominees from a Democrat was what the people wanted!

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But!

But!

But they said it was about the will of the people! That it wasn't fair that the people didn't get a say, and they should have the election first to make sure that nominees from a Democrat was what the people wanted!

...you don't think...it was partisan bullcrap the entire time, do you?


Naw, couldn't be that

With trump burning down the house the gop might not be in a position to stop anything, ever again.

 
   
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This has possibly been the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.


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 Ouze wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
]The Multitude of investigations HAVE found wrongdoing In fact Director Comey even said as much. He said the only reason he didn't recommend charges was because he couldn't find "intent". He even further went on to say that if others do this they would be prosecuted. Literally spelling out the double standard and you sit here telling me its my imagination because I hate democrats/clinton


Emphasis mine. This is almost exactly the opposite of what he actually said, not that you care.



Actually what he said was that if someone in the FBI did this they would face consequences, of course he also minimized the consequences. So your right in that way, but since everyone likes to read between the lines I chose to do that here. Since there is no hard fact I will withdraw that comment and just mention that Mr. Comey IS NOT a republican and has since stated he is not a member of either party now, though he did start out as a republican.

 Spinner wrote:
Everybody likes South Park. There's always that!
If you're actually not a fan of the guy or his policies, then what's keeping you from voting for one of the third party people? Honest question. The GOP's not going to get better if they keep walking down the Crazy Brick Road, and if they think they can squeeze more votes that way, they'll absolutely do it.


Our third party candidates aren't a lot better and we know for a fact that none stand a chance because of the way our system is set up. So voting for Johnson or the Green party is tantamount to throwing your vote out the window.

sirlynchmob wrote:


Cool, so if I send you some classified info, I can have you sent to jail. Good to know.

Again, it's not just her, you'd also be taking down mama bear and numerous others.

it's always an aide.


Yes you could do that, of course I would have to receive the classified information and then not report it and or try to hide its existence.

Also I am well aware that it is not only her, I DONT CARE. If the GOP are found to be doing the same thing I want their heads to roll as well. Endangering national security because it makes your life easier is ridiculous.

sirlynchmob wrote:

A buisnessman about to spend the next 4 years fighting off lawsuits for all the groping and raping he's done. even canada has had enough of his nonsense and is sueing him as well.
http://torontolife.com/city/toronto-trump-tower-lawsuit-feature/

which of course if he's in office will just use your tax dollars to settle.

This is the man hand picked by Putin to win. Trump is obviously a communist sympathizer and a spy. He'd sell off our national security for a buck.

Trump only thinks of trump, to think that he would represent anyone else in america is delusional.


A businessman who will spend 4 years fighting off lawsuits? SO far the evidence in all of these amounts to "he did this". No police reports, no DNA Evidence, no video, no witnesses. These amount to little to nothing in regards to evidence. I doubt it will take him long to fight those off.

If we are going to have a rational conversation please don't imply things as ridiculous as "Trump is obviously a communist spy".

 BigWaaagh wrote:


After all the idiocy and filth that moron has spewed and all the inappropriate, lewd and unacceptable behavior, you still call Trump an "unknown quality"(I'll assume you meant unknown quantity)? When does it sink in that this guy is a scum bag and an insult to anyone with an IQ above that of a radish?

You say you're pissed? Guess what? It won't be the first time, I guarantee it. The trick is to not shut down the side of your brain that can see fact through the red haze of your rage. You really need to learn that trick.


I would say he is an unknown quality when it comes to the aforementioned categories. As far as "sink in that this guy is a scum bag" it already has, I just think he is a better scum bag then Hillary.

With the comment of "You say your pissed" and fighting through the red haze to make a better decision, again I have. I thin someone who has said bad things about women and tends to say inflammatory statements is a better candidate to be president then someone who has flaunted national security, destroyed subpoenaed evidence and has made a career in politics flip flopping on topics depending on the mood of the crowd she is in.

 Vaktathi wrote:

And yet there is no similar fervor to go after other appointees and employees that did similar things.
(EDIT)
If you dont like Hillary, fine. I don't. But please dont vote Trump just as an anti Hillary vote like Trump is somehow a reasonable alternative. That's like voting to have your hand shoved through a meatgrinder to avoid a sharp kick to the nuts. Vote a third party. Vote yourself. Vote your dog. Vote Mickey Mouse. Vote RoboNixon. Just be honest and lets realize that while Hillary is awful, Trump is not a reasonable alternative. I wont be casting a vote for either.


I actually am fervently upset about other appointees and employees that do similar things. I have in my time stripped members of the intelligence community of their clearances for doing unsafe things an order of magnitude less then those that Mrs Clinton has done. I am furious with members of our political and military elite who have flaunted national security. I think I have made my position on that rather clear.

With voting for Trump, the way I look at it, voting for anyone besides Trump is a vote for Hillary, our National history has shown that to be true unfortunately, we have never had a real 3rd party have a shot, in fact 3rd parties tend to do little more then fracture the 2 main political powers. As a person who agrees with some conservatism and moderate views I identify with the Republicans more so then the democrats (though no much) so for me to vote 3rd party means I am throwing my vote away and by doing so weakening the chances of stopping Clinton from winning. As I said, I view her as a threat to our national security more so then I view trump's ridiculous comments.








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I think with Hillary you had the Democrat establishment deciding early that she was their woman, and the voters pretty emphatically agreeing. .

Dude, an octogenarian Socialist who's not even a member of the Democratic Party gave her a run for her money.

Despite everything that has occurred Trump is still only 4 points behind. Thats a reflection on both of them.

https://www.thenation.com/article/win-or-lose-hillary-clintons-troubles-in-ohio-should-worry-democrats/

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 wuestenfux wrote:
Trump is the worst candidate the US ever had. Just a working hypothesis, but I guess its close to the truth.


Not even close.



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