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All of them with maybe the exception of SoD are pretty bad

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

Except for that annoying little fact that more Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

Except for that annoying little fact that more Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump.

And that they made gains in both the house and senate (IIRC)

 whembly wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
feth off whem. It's Trump's fault for picking her, and it will the the Repub's who vote for her fault if she get in.

Hey.

I'm part of the 'Earth First' club.... we'll strip mine the other planets later.

Seriously, Co'tor... methinks you're protesting a bit much. They're not running the show yet, so keep your powder dry.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:

 whembly wrote:

What/where am I defending this?

When you try to justify the nominations of some controversial republican figures or their decisions, already. Should I also mention your stance about the contestation of the votes, how Russia is involved as well?

You're trying to defend your party, it's quite obvious. And by extension, their candidate now President-elect, because let's be clear, it's an unique opportunity for your side to do what they always wanted to do now that the road is wide open. And I expect you to do this for 4 years.

Sure I'm tickled pink that the Republicans kicked Democrats ass...

But it ain't like I'm picking up pom-poms cheering everything Cheeto Jesus has done so far...

However, I will say that I'm pleasantly surprised at most of the cabinet picks so far. (Mattis for DoD? I may have gay thoughts for the first time of my life! )

I'm from Missouri, and out state motto is "The Show-Me State". We believe in action, not words.

Not, you believe in rampant partisanship and party loyalty over all else. You've demonstrated that quite plainly.

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want. 'Tis why 2016 will be known as 'The Year of the Democrats Spankings'.

As for Cheeto Jesus, I'm just in the shruggie mindset and expected the worst. But, I'm somewhat heartened by his transition picks so far.

Claims to be earth first as a climate change denier, okay then

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

Except for that annoying little fact that more Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump.

Except for that annoying little fact that the Electoral College doesn't give a gak about popular vote.

 whembly wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

Except for that annoying little fact that more Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump.

Except for that annoying little fact that the Electoral College doesn't give a gak about popular vote.

The idea that Democrats are " far removed from what most Americans want" however, does care about that. Trump didn't win any sort of mandate. His EC total wasn't even particularly high. All this proved is that republican voters care more about party than they do about country.

Keep in mind this is me saying this as an outsider.

Whembly wrote:No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

Your statement had nothing to do with the Electorial College though.

It had to do with sheer numbers, most Americans.

 whembly wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

Except for that annoying little fact that more Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump.

Except for that annoying little fact that the Electoral College doesn't give a gak about popular vote.

And the Electoral College has feth all to do with what most Americans wanted.

That was kind of its point, wasn't it? Something about being the last bastion of defense against the madness of mob rule?

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

Except for that annoying little fact that more Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump.

Except for that annoying little fact that the Electoral College doesn't give a gak about popular vote.

And the Electoral College has feth all to do with what most Americans wanted.

Incorrect.

Trump won the individual 50 popular STATES vote.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

Except for that annoying little fact that more Americans voted for Hillary than for Trump.

Except for that annoying little fact that the Electoral College doesn't give a gak about popular vote.

The idea that Democrats are " far removed from what most Americans want" however, does care about that. Trump didn't win any sort of mandate. His EC total wasn't even particularly high. All this proved is that republican voters care more about party than they do about country.

Niiiiiiiice. Republican votes don't care...

Reason #498586940385 that Trump won.

smdh.

 whembly wrote:

Incorrect.

Trump won the individual 50 popular STATES vote.

What does that matter?

Niiiiiiiice. Republican votes don't care...

Reason #498586940385 that Trump won.

smdh.

They chose and elected an inexperienced, unqualified, unpredictable, egotistical, rapist. Yeah, they either they place their party over country, or are too ignorant to realise what Trump will do. And I'm not going to be the one calling Trump voters ignorant.

Whembly your damage control is amazing, you went from full on nevertrump to defending his cabinet picks hawking that the democrats lost because they are out of touch (which they aren't most americans that voted voted D)

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 whembly wrote:

Incorrect.

Trump won the individual 50 popular STATES vote.

What does that matter?

Because that's how it works... and, because States matters in our union.

It's illustrative to look at who won county-by-county:

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

Trump won 3,084 of them.

Clinton won 57.

The electoral college appears to have functioned exactly as designed.

Niiiiiiiice. Republican votes don't care...

Reason #498586940385 that Trump won.

smdh.

They chose and elected an inexperienced, unqualified, unpredictable, egotistical, rapist. Yeah, they either they place their party over country, or are too ignorant to realise what Trump will do. And I'm not going to be the one calling Trump voters ignorant.

Or, could be Clinton was just that MUCH more horrible.

The electoral vote has nothing to do with your argument that less people voted democrat.

 whembly wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 whembly wrote:

Incorrect.

Trump won the individual 50 popular STATES vote.

What does that matter?

Because that's how it works... and, because States matters in our union.

It's illustrative to look at who won county-by-county:

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

Trump won 3,084 of them.

Clinton won 57.

The electoral college appears to have functioned exactly as designed.

Niiiiiiiice. Republican votes don't care...

Reason #498586940385 that Trump won.

smdh.

They chose and elected an inexperienced, unqualified, unpredictable, egotistical, rapist. Yeah, they either they place their party over country, or are too ignorant to realise what Trump will do. And I'm not going to be the one calling Trump voters ignorant.

Or, could be Clinton was just that MUCH more horrible.

Good thing a majority of those counties have 2 people living in them

 whembly wrote:

Because that's how it works... and, because States matters in our union.

It's illustrative to look at who won county-by-county:

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

Trump won 3,084 of them.

Clinton won 57.

The electoral college appears to have functioned exactly as designed.

Because you think land ownership should decide representation. We've been through this.
(or more accurately, it's because "your guys" benefit from the current arraignment)

Or, could be Clinton was just that MUCH more horrible.

And if you believe that you are deluded. She was a fething run-of-the mill, status-quo, moderate Democrat. If she's "that bad," that I might as well be the devil incarnate to Republican voters (leans towards a socialist-capitalist mix, believes in equality for all, believes that with rights and power comes a responsibility to protect those less fortunate, ect).

Be careful co'tar republicans will start hawking to have your emails investigated

and you will be put on a persona non grata list, since it is already happening with trump

 Ustrello wrote:
Be careful co'tar republicans will start hawking to have your emails investigated

and you will be put on a persona non grata list, since it is already happening with trump

And if it's really bad, Trump will bad-mouth me on his twitter.

Speaking of Trump, he seems to be doubling down on his hatred of intelligence. Both sorts, apparently.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38282533


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 whembly wrote:

I'm from Missouri, and out state motto is "The Show-Me State". We believe in action, not words.

Ok. He's appointed a head for DoL that has had millions of dollars in labor violations and wants to go back to the $5 minimum wage, and do away with overtime. Heads for the EPA and Park Service who legally represent Big Oil and have repeatedly requested that the park system be done away with so that oil companies can drill. In fact, almost every candidate he's suggested has either been in open opposition to the governments policies, or existence at all, and named them to positions that they have actively worked against, in some cases for 20+ years.

It's like naming Saddam Hussein's Generals to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

On the up side, we won't ever have to worry about Republicans ever having a president again, but we may just have to worry about having another president again at all.

I mean, look around, even your fellow Republicans are going WTF?

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 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

So why then did more of them vote Clinton rather than Trump?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/11/politics/biden-sotu-2020-democrats/index.html

4 years are a long ways away...

 d-usa wrote:
The electoral vote has nothing to do with your argument that less people voted democrat.

Electoral vote doesn't care. Electoral votes only care the you win the majority of the states.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 whembly wrote:

Because that's how it works... and, because States matters in our union.

It's illustrative to look at who won county-by-county:

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

Trump won 3,084 of them.

Clinton won 57.

The electoral college appears to have functioned exactly as designed.

Because you think land ownership should decide representation. We've been through this.
(or more accurately, it's because "your guys" benefit from the current arraignment)

Step off from the whole "land ownership" bs. You know it's not that.

It's simply there are regional differences, ie states, that fething matters.

Or, could be Clinton was just that MUCH more horrible.

And if you believe that you are deluded. She was a fething run-of-the mill, status-quo, moderate Democrat. If she's "that bad," that I might as well be the devil incarnate to Republican voters (leans towards a socialist-capitalist mix, believes in equality for all, believes that with rights and power comes a responsibility to protect those less fortunate, ect).

:rolls eyes:

No, just about any other Democrat would've beaten Trump... I'm convinced of that.

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
The electoral vote has nothing to do with your argument that less people voted democrat.

Electoral vote doesn't care. Electoral votes only care the you win the majority of the states.

Majority of the states does not equal majority of Americans, which is what you initially said.

 d-usa wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/11/politics/biden-sotu-2020-democrats/index.html

4 years are a long ways away...

I think Biden can actually win.

 whembly wrote:

No, just about any other Democrat would've beaten Trump... I'm convinced of that.

You're convinced of it now that he's won. Before that you were convinced that Hillary had it in the bag. No offence but what you're convinced of is not in any way, shape or form actually relevant.

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/11/politics/biden-sotu-2020-democrats/index.html

4 years are a long ways away...

I think Biden can actually win.

If it wasnt for a family tragedy, Joe Biden would be our president. He was one of only 3 candidates who could have pulled me away from Gary Johnson.

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
The electoral vote has nothing to do with your argument that less people voted democrat.

Electoral vote doesn't care. Electoral votes only care the you win the majority of the states.

I don't see any mention of states or electoral votes in this quote:

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

"most Americans" don't necessarily correspond to the the most states or the most electoral votes, and no one has made that connection apart from yourself.

It's kinda embarrassing to watch you start to talk about a entirely different subject instead of just admitting that initial statement was just not very well thought out.

Kinda Trump-esque I suppose.

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I'd edit the swear as I dont want something as glorious as that comment to disappear

 Zywus wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
The electoral vote has nothing to do with your argument that less people voted democrat.

Electoral vote doesn't care. Electoral votes only care the you win the majority of the states.

I don't see any mention of states or electoral votes in this quote:

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

"most Americans" don't necessarily correspond to the the most states or the most electoral votes, and no one has made that connection apart from yourself.

It's kinda embarrassing to watch you start to talk about a entirely different subject instead of just admitting that initial statement was just not very well thought out.

Kinda Trump-esque I suppose.

In a presidental election, you have to look at it states-by-states. I think I've been pretty consistent there.

Furthermore, just look at the last 8 years after the 2008 elections... yes, the Democrats has taken a beating.

 whembly wrote:

 Zywus wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
The electoral vote has nothing to do with your argument that less people voted democrat.

Electoral vote doesn't care. Electoral votes only care the you win the majority of the states.

I don't see any mention of states or electoral votes in this quote:

 whembly wrote:

No, I beleive this current generation of Democrats are so fething far removed from what most Americans want.

"most Americans" don't necessarily correspond to the the most states or the most electoral votes, and no one has made that connection apart from yourself.

It's kinda embarrassing to watch you start to talk about a entirely different subject instead of just admitting that initial statement was just not very well thought out.

Kinda Trump-esque I suppose.

In a presidental election, you have to look at it states-by-states. I think I've been pretty consistent there.

Furthermore, just look at the last 8 years after the 2008 elections... yes, the Democrats has taken a beating.

Want to know why whembly? Because the red states have been gerrymandering the crap out of their states to get that advantage, they have been working at that for years and we are starting to see the full force of it. Get ride of gerrymandering and poof any lead the Rs had disappears