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 Pouncey wrote:
Hey, I have a question.

Should we discover a way to contact an alien civilization on another planet, how hard will the US push to monopolize the whole thing?

And also, how much emphasis will be placed on the diplomat's religiousness? Contact seemed to think it was a lot, and CinemaSins agreed.

best served in a separate thread, alright ?

NYT hires reporter who sent articles to Clinton campaign before publishing.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/12/new-york-times-hires-reporter-who-sent-stories-to-clinton-staffers-for-approval/

"Trump Reportedly Looking at Carly Fiorina for Director of National Intelligence"




Then she can simply fire all the guys in the CIA/FBI etc etc who are asking awkward questions -- problem solved.

 reds8n wrote:
"Trump Reportedly Looking at Carly Fiorina for Director of National Intelligence"




Then she can simply fire all the guys in the CIA/FBI etc etc who are asking awkward questions -- problem solved.

The problem with Trump is that you're only half-joking there.

 reds8n wrote:
"Trump Reportedly Looking at Carly Fiorina for Director of National Intelligence"




Then she can simply fire all the guys in the CIA/FBI etc etc who are asking awkward questions -- problem solved.

That'd be the ultimate Troll pick.

I wouldn't put it past Trump...

 whembly wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
"Trump Reportedly Looking at Carly Fiorina for Director of National Intelligence"




Then she can simply fire all the guys in the CIA/FBI etc etc who are asking awkward questions -- problem solved.

That'd be the ultimate Troll pick.

I wouldn't put it past Trump...

I swear he's just picking all the people he knows by name.

 reds8n wrote:
"Trump Reportedly Looking at Carly Fiorina for Director of National Intelligence"




Then she can simply fire all the guys in the CIA/FBI etc etc who are asking awkward questions -- problem solved.

"Trump Reportedly Looking at Carly Fiorina for Director of National Intelligence"

Carly Fiorina

National Intelligence

I.

Um.

May we live in interesting times, right?

 Spinner wrote:
May we live in interesting times, right?

You're just saying this now?

Well, it's all I've got left to say. I ran out of indignant reminders around about November 10th, and I exhausted my supply of sarcasm when we got the climate-change denier as the head of the EPA.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
"Trump Reportedly Looking at Carly Fiorina for Director of National Intelligence"




Then she can simply fire all the guys in the CIA/FBI etc etc who are asking awkward questions -- problem solved.

That'd be the ultimate Troll pick.

I wouldn't put it past Trump...

I swear he's just picking all the people he knows by name.

It's not just his individual picks for these positions. It's the idea that this motley bunch is going to work together and pull in the same direction, and for a POTUS who'll change his mind 8 times before brunch. The executive branch will be rudderless...just wait and see.

 Spinner wrote:
Well, it's all I've got left to say. I ran out of indignant reminders around about November 10th, and I exhausted my supply of sarcasm when we got the climate-change denier as the head of the EPA.

You can't say that it isn't conducive to conversation to call him a climate change denier /s

 Spinner wrote:
Well, it's all I've got left to say. I ran out of indignant reminders around about November 10th, and I exhausted my supply of sarcasm when we got the climate-change denier as the head of the EPA.

I uttered many a "What the feth?"

For a while I was scared.

Then I remembered a South Park episode about Wendy being School President and Cartman being the reader of the morning announcements.

Then I breathed a bit of relief from the knowledge that the President can't just do whatever he likes and does not carry as much sway in politics as is often believed.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Spinner wrote:
Well, it's all I've got left to say. I ran out of indignant reminders around about November 10th, and I exhausted my supply of sarcasm when we got the climate-change denier as the head of the EPA.

I uttered many a "What the feth?"

For a while I was scared.

Then I remembered a South Park episode about Wendy being School President and Cartman being the reader of the morning announcements.

Then I breathed a bit of relief from the knowledge that the President can't just do whatever he likes and does not carry as much sway in politics as is often believed.

It's not just the Pres though. His cabinet (barring SecDef) is appearing more and more like the who's who of political gakstain jagoffs.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Spinner wrote:
Well, it's all I've got left to say. I ran out of indignant reminders around about November 10th, and I exhausted my supply of sarcasm when we got the climate-change denier as the head of the EPA.

I uttered many a "What the feth?"

For a while I was scared.

Then I remembered a South Park episode about Wendy being School President and Cartman being the reader of the morning announcements.

Then I breathed a bit of relief from the knowledge that the President can't just do whatever he likes and does not carry as much sway in politics as is often believed.

The problem, however, is that there is still a lot of damage that can be done by Trump and Friends. Eventually, all the lawsuits will get started to force the various agencies to actually follow their own laws and regulations. But until then, things could get pretty ugly.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Spinner wrote:
Well, it's all I've got left to say. I ran out of indignant reminders around about November 10th, and I exhausted my supply of sarcasm when we got the climate-change denier as the head of the EPA.

I uttered many a "What the feth?"

For a while I was scared.

Then I remembered a South Park episode about Wendy being School President and Cartman being the reader of the morning announcements.

Then I breathed a bit of relief from the knowledge that the President can't just do whatever he likes and does not carry as much sway in politics as is often believed.

You might have had that realization...but I don't think Trump has yet. He can do a lot of damage before that really sinks in.

And, quite apart from all the harm his cabinet picks are going to cause, there's a lot of prestige and importance attached to being the president, for obvious reasons. There's plenty of ways to leverage that to punish people you don't like. And, unfortunately, if there's one thing Trump is good at, it's wielding power attached to a name.

What if Trump launched a Twitter War against someone who doesn't read Twitter...

 Frazzled wrote:
What if Trump launched a Twitter War against someone who doesn't read Twitter...

He's already done it. And then his minions started threatening and harrsing the guy (although he's a uninion leader, so he's used to it).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/07/donald-trump-retaliated-against-a-union-leader-on-twitter-then-his-phone-started-to-ring/?utm_term=.4ac2f80afa3c

well that dude really does suck.

Truman would say it to your face. Nixon would...well Nixon would just bomb you.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
"Trump Reportedly Looking at Carly Fiorina for Director of National Intelligence"




Then she can simply fire all the guys in the CIA/FBI etc etc who are asking awkward questions -- problem solved.

That'd be the ultimate Troll pick.

I wouldn't put it past Trump...

I swear he's just picking all the people he knows by name.

I actually think this is exactly what is happening. Barring the barnacles that are using him to hire on people paying for positions (I honestly think at least the big business types bought a spot on Trump's opposite day dream team).

I admit I am enjoying the mounting voter regret on my social media. Having mostly Trump supporter friends and family، the lamentations are fueling me.

As of right now، I am predicting that Trump will face a very serious attempt to impeach him at or around his 2nd year as president. Most of his cabinet seems to be line toeing Republicans oand his VP is dyed in the wool Republican. With Republicans owning Congress، it seems to me that Trump is set to have a guillotine hanging over his head that will drop the moment his base gets distracted by the next faux issue.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Spinner wrote:
Well, it's all I've got left to say. I ran out of indignant reminders around about November 10th, and I exhausted my supply of sarcasm when we got the climate-change denier as the head of the EPA.

I uttered many a "What the feth?"

For a while I was scared.

Then I remembered a South Park episode about Wendy being School President and Cartman being the reader of the morning announcements.

Then I breathed a bit of relief from the knowledge that the President can't just do whatever he likes and does not carry as much sway in politics as is often believed.

The problem, however, is that there is still a lot of damage that can be done by Trump and Friends. Eventually, all the lawsuits will get started to force the various agencies to actually follow their own laws and regulations. But until then, things could get pretty ugly.

Eh, I dunno. I think it's giving them too much credit to think that this crew of misfits could engage in any carefully-planned, deliberate evil. Sure, they'll probably knock some stuff off shelves, like some wino stumbling around in a drunken stupor. But mostly they're just going to end up as ineffectual as this cabinet search has been. And Trump will be completely bored and an absentee President no more than 18 months into the job. Watch him start doing the Celebrity Apprentice again to capitalize on his title.

The real damage to the country will be four years of weakness and futility out of our executive branch.

Donnie's appointments reflect the man and his experience. He's a businessman, not a politician, and he's filling his cabinet with businessmen that speak his language and military-types that understand how to take orders. He's going to try to run the country as a business...he's said as much...and we'll see how that goes. It's only natural that career politicians aren't going to feature as prominently as they usually would in the administration.

 BigWaaagh wrote:
Donnie's appointments reflect the man and his experience. He's a businessman, not a politician, and he's filling his cabinet with businessmen that speak his language and military-types that understand how to take orders. He's going to try to run the country as a business...he's said as much...and we'll see how that goes. It's only natural that career politicians aren't going to feature as prominently as they usually would in the administration.

Yes

Yup, he's giving away our government to corporate elites. So much for "anti-establishment".

 BigWaaagh wrote:
He's going to try to run the country as a business...he's said as much...and we'll see how that goes.

It won't go well.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Yup, he's giving away our government to corporate elites. So much for "anti-establishment".

So, when do I get to point and laugh at my relatives who said that Trump would fix the government? When do I get to say, "Hey, we all got wedgied!"?

Just wait until the impeachment in two years or when he resigns in a year after realizing being Prez requires actual work.

Alternatively, Pence and Tiller may run things so well he's re-elected in a landslide.

 Frazzled wrote:
Just wait until the impeachment in two years or when he resigns in a year after realizing being Prez requires actual work.

Alternatively, Pence and Tiller may run things so well he's re-elected in a landslide.

Somehow, I doubt it. Although all he has to do is not feth up the things already accomplished, and he will be lauded as some sort of genius by his followers.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Just wait until the impeachment in two years or when he resigns in a year after realizing being Prez requires actual work.

Alternatively, Pence and Tiller may run things so well he's re-elected in a landslide.

Somehow, I doubt it. Although all he has to do is not feth up the things already accomplished, and he will be lauded as some sort of genius by his followers.

This.

For most of his picks, I'm pleasantly surprised at how accomplished his cabinet positions are... ideologically, you may have issues... but, at least they may have a clue at what to do.

Well we can agree to disagree on several of those. Fiorina would be another who...no just no.

 whembly wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Just wait until the impeachment in two years or when he resigns in a year after realizing being Prez requires actual work.

Alternatively, Pence and Tiller may run things so well he's re-elected in a landslide.

Somehow, I doubt it. Although all he has to do is not feth up the things already accomplished, and he will be lauded as some sort of genius by his followers.

This.

For most of his picks, I'm pleasantly surprised at how accomplished his cabinet positions are... ideologically, you may have issues... but, at least they may have a clue at what to do.

CEO experience doesn't mean gak when talking about government. The main goal is (or should be) severing and protecting the people, the exact opposite of business (where it is profit). And when most of these people are worked all their lives trying to circumvent these protections in the aim of making more profit, it doesn't work out well. That's not to say they aren't accomplished businessmen and woman (minus a Fiorina or two) but that accomplishment is like me putting my 300+ hours playing HOI4 as reasoning to be Defense Secretary.