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I mean, I like the thought of using Mortarion, but then I couldn't line him up on my shelf next to Mortarion. I mean WTF, it would be a never ending battle on my shelf, because Typhon hates Mortation, and Mortarion is a bad ass Daemon Prince. I would never get any sleep.

tneva82 wrote:

 shinros wrote:

I can make a long post for you to show that slaanesh is not actually out of AOS but this is not the point of the topic anywaaaay. I will be mainly buying traitor's hate for the fluff.

He's missing. Ie currently not actively goign around. Which is precisely my point. He's been temporarily taken out. He can be put to same status in 40k as well until GW's release schedule allow support(or they figure what the heck they want to do if that's the reason for delay).

If you disagree I'm sure you can point new slaanesh release in AOS...Or fluff piece that shows what he's doing. Last I read he's missing and his followers are looking for him. Ie he's MIA.

Read again what I wrote. I didn't say he's out for good. I said he's temporarily out. TEMPORARILY.

adverb
adverb: temporarily

for a limited period of time; not permanently.

Again: If you disagree with that statement feel free to provide proof which shows Slaanesh is actively around in AOS.

You seriously need to let this go. Slaanesh is not going anywhere it was confirmed at game day. AOS is a "narrative" campaign. Slaanesh will be back when they address the Aelfs and their storyline. There is no evidence of Slaanesh being gone in 40K. Deathwatch would have been a perfect time to remove hir if they intended too. What we got was the exact opposite the removal of the only known way to defeat hir. Also Slaanesh is not missing anything the other gods aren't model wise either. All the cults need models. Slaanesh daemon got most of their models first.

It probably is but on the bright side CSM can get ML3 Psykers.

 redleger wrote:
I mean, I like the thought of using Mortarion, but then I couldn't line him up on my shelf next to Mortarion. I mean WTF, it would be a never ending battle on my shelf, because Typhon hates Mortation, and Mortarion is a bad ass Daemon Prince. I would never get any sleep.

Yeah he'd be beside himself.

 King Pariah wrote:
If Guilliman is coming to 40k, I am willing to bet that GW has some shoddy writer (cough cough Ward cough cough) say that his primarch physique overcomes the poison in his system and could have this whole time.

Or (arguably) worse: Guilliman is a perpetual.

NOOOOOOOOOOnotaperpetualOOOOOOOOO!!!

 Chaos Legionnaire wrote:
I can't seem to find this rumored terminator formation.
Where is it exactly?

And the 'Veterans of the Legions' formation...I must know!

I'd be more interested in the psychic powers. I'm still desperately holding on to the chance of them not being 1:1 copies.

No renegade knights stuff, eh?

Roknar wrote:
I'd be more interested in the psychic powers. I'm still desperately holding on the chance of them not being 1:1 copies.

Why? Do you want inferior CSM versions?

shinros wrote:

Davor wrote:
Why is Slaanesh gone in 40K? I know why he/she is not in Age of Sigmar but when did he disappear in 40K?

It's cause of the whole eldar nonsense before with the deathwatch release people are fearing that slaanesh is going to get squatted. Heck some people think slaanesh was squatted from AOS. On facebook people were going nuts and GW simply responded. "Such little faith in the dark prince you think the eldar can best him so easily?" Or some such I think eldar are going to get a lesson in hubris.

Of course people still think this is going to happen. Or that slaanesh being missing in AOS means the slaanesh is irrelevant(which is far from the case it's the opposite) and this will happen in 40k.

Anyway this is not the point of the topic.

Thank you for the explanation. I thought I missed something happening and it already happened. Good to know I didn't miss anything yet.

 Chaos Legionnaire wrote:
I can't seem to find this rumored terminator formation.
Where is it exactly?

https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpp.vk.me%2Fc637717%2Fv637717385%2Fd283%2FVR6rgdKiBIo.jpg&key=8SSRWBCYtVqg_xM3ZkI6tg&w=600&h=810

So the Ahriman looks amazing but is there any info on the space wolves character or how many minis it comes with? i might sell the characters and add them to my 40k army.

Also custodes

Warhams-77 wrote:

 Chaos Legionnaire wrote:
I can't seem to find this rumored terminator formation.
Where is it exactly?

https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpp.vk.me%2Fc637717%2Fv637717385%2Fd283%2FVR6rgdKiBIo.jpg&key=8SSRWBCYtVqg_xM3ZkI6tg&w=600&h=810

Jesus Christ the HQ's don't pay for their Terminator Armor. That is going to make justifying Typhus a lot harder.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Jesus Christ the HQ's don't pay for their Terminator Armor. That is going to make justifying Typhus a lot harder.

Maybe, but you do need 3 units of termies to get it for free, which are really rough in terms of options.

Warhams-77 wrote:

 Chaos Legionnaire wrote:
I can't seem to find this rumored terminator formation.
Where is it exactly?

https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpp.vk.me%2Fc637717%2Fv637717385%2Fd283%2FVR6rgdKiBIo.jpg&key=8SSRWBCYtVqg_xM3ZkI6tg&w=600&h=810

You wouldn't happen to have the one for the cultist troops would you?

Looking for the Spawn formation info. Did any one see it?
?

How much does anyone want to bet that the updated Assault Marine datasheat for Blood Angels allows them to be used as Troops?

shadowfinder wrote:
Looking for the Spawn formation info. Did any one see it?
?

There is no spawn formation. They are an auxiliary choice.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Roknar wrote:
I'd be more interested in the psychic powers. I'm still desperately holding on the chance of them not being 1:1 copies.

Why? Do you want inferior CSM versions?

Inferior? No. Different? Yes.
The redeeming part is that it makes sense fluff wise to keep them, given how the 30k marines got them too. But it's such a dull choice.
Their not even balanced considering the state of the base codex, though close enough I spose.

Where's the hate in these? Isn't the whole point of going rogue to relish in those juicy forbidden rituals and spells?
Thy're called sorcerers for a reason, these aren't warp fuelled at all. Maybe if they would let us use more warpcharges for psychic powers in general?
Stronger spells by risking more perils seems like a fluffy and appropriate mechanic.
giving us the same powers is just sooooo boring.

Can we please stay on subject about News & Rumors. Seems many of us are getting off topic by discussing tactics.

Roknar wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Roknar wrote:
I'd be more interested in the psychic powers. I'm still desperately holding on the chance of them not being 1:1 copies.

Why? Do you want inferior CSM versions?

Inferior? No. Different? Yes.

For Chaos they mean the same thing. We're talking about an army who, in 3rd edition were limited to 3 heavy weapons per Havoc squad just so they could be "different" from Devastators.

 jifel wrote:

shadowfinder wrote:
Looking for the Spawn formation info. Did any one see it?
?

There is no spawn formation. They are an auxiliary choice.

Just like the Cult units sadly. Both of them don't have a page number where they could be specified so we can assume there are no additional rules to them.

Neronoxx wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Hastings just popped up in the war of sigmar comments section to say that we will be seeing Magnus Angorn, Mortarion, Russ and Guilliman in 40k.

So I notice that Fulgrim is missing from that list. Which makes sense given the rumors...

You mean the idiotic rantings of pedantic fear mongers?

Yeah. Good luck with that.

You know what does make sense?

Fulgrim staying in his pleasure palace because why bother invading the realspace when he can just snort 666 flavors of coke?
Hastings said we will see X, Y and Z. That doesn't mean anything other than what it means.

I imagine something like Hedonism Bot in Futurama.

Fulgrim: Oooooh my, my brother primarchs are returning to realspace?! MORE WINE SERVANTS

Chaos Marine: But my lord, shouldn't we be there?

Fulgrim: Of course not! There will be time for battle, my sweet child *licks his face, winks* Until then, we cavort!

RE: Guilliman, fluff has always said that pilgrims swear that his wounds are healing. So nothing new. I'm honestly hoping this heralds a new 40k version that has the returned Primarchs in some small measure, leading their factions as separate factions e.g. Russ and the Wolves as mercenaries/pillagers (because Werewolf Vikings), Guilliman having a new Imperium (again? didn't he do that in a book?) in a parallel to the Byzantine Empire to the Imperium's Rome, etc.

RE: Traitor's Hate, it looks decent enough to make me indecisive again in what I want to play. Lucky for me I don't actually have much of anything assembled :p I mean, it doesn't look THAT bad. Competitive? No, but not garbage for casual/laid back games. I'm already debating doing a Chaos Warband as my first purchases, unless I choose to go with Daemonkin instead because let's be honest, they seem like they are more fun overall than regular Chaos even with this book.

I hope primarchs come with rules and are playable by any imperium army.

Chikout wrote:
Hastings just popped up in the war of sigmar comments section to say that we will be seeing Magnus Angorn, Mortarion, Russ and Guilliman in 40k.

Link?

Pretre, I would like to link directly to it but it doesn't work. You can see the post in his disqus profile though:

https://disqus.com/by/75hastings69/?




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The cultist formation



Source: Motograter's Traitor's Hate photo gallery

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Roknar wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Roknar wrote:
I'd be more interested in the psychic powers. I'm still desperately holding on the chance of them not being 1:1 copies.

Why? Do you want inferior CSM versions?

Inferior? No. Different? Yes.

For Chaos they mean the same thing. We're talking about an army who, in 3rd edition were limited to 3 heavy weapons per Havoc squad just so they could be "different" from Devastators.

Well, the change in GW's ways can't be denied. So there is always hope. For me that hope also happens to involve deluding myself into the idea that the inclusion of the same powers is a fluff consideration rather than a sign of turning csm into spikey marines lol.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:

 Chaos Legionnaire wrote:
I can't seem to find this rumored terminator formation.
Where is it exactly?

https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpp.vk.me%2Fc637717%2Fv637717385%2Fd283%2FVR6rgdKiBIo.jpg&key=8SSRWBCYtVqg_xM3ZkI6tg&w=600&h=810

Jesus Christ the HQ's don't pay for their Terminator Armor. That is going to make justifying Typhus a lot harder.

Termicide on steroid?

Seems pretty danged cool if you ask me.

Roknar wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Roknar wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Roknar wrote:
I'd be more interested in the psychic powers. I'm still desperately holding on the chance of them not being 1:1 copies.

Why? Do you want inferior CSM versions?

Inferior? No. Different? Yes.

For Chaos they mean the same thing. We're talking about an army who, in 3rd edition were limited to 3 heavy weapons per Havoc squad just so they could be "different" from Devastators.

Well, the change in GW's ways can't be denied. So there is always hope. For me that hope also happens to involve deluding myself into the idea that the inclusion of the same powers is a fluff consideration rather than a sign of turning csm into spikey marines lol.

I guess you're right. None of the Formation bonuses cause your dudes to kill themselves so I guess GW has turned over a new leaf with CSM.

 loki old fart wrote:

 redleger wrote:
I mean, I like the thought of using Mortarion, but then I couldn't line him up on my shelf next to Mortarion. I mean WTF, it would be a never ending battle on my shelf, because Typhon hates Mortation, and Mortarion is a bad ass Daemon Prince. I would never get any sleep.

Yeah he'd be beside himself.

wow,not sure what happened. That totally should have been Typhon/Typhus. damn you cell phone!

 Runic wrote:
How would the Rhinos benefit from Shrouded against shooting when the DP+Possessed -formation only grants the bonuses at the start of the Fight sub-phase, lasting until the end of that turn. The Possessed of CS have a different wording on theirs (start of turn until next player turn) and directly contradict the Traitors Hate -formations wording. Ergo:

The Crimson slaughter book I have says they keep there buff until the start of the controlling players next turn, so you would keep shrouding in your opponents turn, then at the start of your turn you lose it, and then at the start of the fight sub phase you would regain shrouding and the 3+ invulnerable save, so the only thing you wouldn't benefit from is becoming beasts.



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 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Do Thousand Sons have the Veterans of the Long War special rule? Are they Khorne Berzerkers, Plague Marines or Noise Marines?

It says they can't take the veterans of the long war special rule aka purchasing it, they aren't taking it, since they have it built in as apart of there profile.

If they couldn't take Daemon princes at all why would they bother having the Daemonheart relic outright say can't be taken by a daemon prince ?