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Traitro's hate is more an Iron Warriors supplement than anything, but DG are also heavy on the siege theme. They also feature a whole lot of terminators and TH has a terminator formation that's at least not bad, it doesn't really do much either though. It's decent with a larger termie units but that in turn makes it too expensive imho.
If you like yourself some zombies though, TH allows you to bring back culstists on a 4+, so yea. Overall probably a good addition for DG.

Not sure how you feel about sorcerers, but TH offer new disciplines that are rather fluffy with some imagination. The Black Legion supplement offer a good formation to aquire sorcerers. Well, that and another termie formation which is ...eh. Though it's handy if you want to take termies with a sorcerer as the unit becomes fearless. Relics are mostly overcosted, but it does allow you buy eternal warrior.

Crimson slaughter blocks you from using daemon prices and all of our special characters. You also can't have VotLW, but the relics are mostly good and you gain army wide fear for free. There is a formation with rezzing cultists and aoe FnP (for basic csm and possessed). Otherwise it's not all that DG themed, but there are lots of leadership debuffs, which could be interpreted as being caused by their unsightly appearances. All the formations come with mandatory possessed mind you.

Overall you'll get the most out of TH and then CS if you don't mind the possessed. Black Legion is only interesting for the sorcerers and terminators.
Of course this is neglecting Imperial Armour 13 and the Siege of Vraks. IA has multitude of vehicles that good for any csm army, including some nurgle vehicles as well as being able to dedicate some to nurgle. Siege of vraks has a nurgle based detachment that even allows you to take chemical flamers and such. It also features an army list for renegades and heretics, which you mihgt want to ally with, the same is true for IA13. They are different but I don't know just how different.

As much as i like CSM getting new psyPowers and stuff... but realy just copy/paste ?
I am lucky my meta is OK with me playing TS as in the fanmade codex once i got them to read it.
No way its gonna make it into tournament meta, but atm i do not care. I know we( as in TS ) will get some stuff with the new releases for 30k. Thats what makes me happy.
I can understand that lots of 40k-ers like to get more/good/even decent stuff , but we are used to get ...shafted at best, right?
I am not complaining about the possibilitys given now, but we need to wait for the "Year of Tzeeeeench" - or rather the 12 months of it - to hit its peak.
Hence i am looking for the stuff to come for the TS.
And if i need to rely on the fanmade gak (that MY meta is ok with) i will wait.
Well, untill they feth up 8th next year ...

Well there's nothing stopping us taking these new formations outside a Black Crusade detachment, right?

Purge primary detachment, Terminator Annihilation force, Favoured of Chaos + some FW nasties (shame there's no Blight Drone formation) could make a decent basis for a DG force

 Gamgee wrote:
I never once used the term OP. I just said moved to the top of mid tier at best. Still way better than most armies now though. A lot of people think Tau are OP and they are patently wrong every time.

A big problem you and other non CSM players do is lump us all in one group. It's like saying SM are all ultramarines and there is the rub
CSM is being used as a codex for all CSM but KDK yet SM get 6 full codexs and more do you not see the problem

cheers guys! looks like TH is the book for me.

 bubber wrote:
To peeps with all 3 Chaos Sups (BL, CS & TH), can I make a decent DG force? If so, which of the books should I buy (from 0 to all 3)?
Cheers!

Although you can take cults troops as an auxiliary, again not worth the all the tax units. Since, GW didn't make the cult formation a core choice as that would apparently be just to OP. You better off just run a CAD and taking what ever formations you like as the detachment bonus isn't worth taking all the tax units in the "warband".

Is this it btw? With the angle's blade being part 2. From what I understand the fight is over and abaddon is headed into the eye, so I doubt we'll get a campaign book about his (mis)adventures.
Or is there some hope that we might still get another campaign book with that rumoured tzeentch theme still looming around and maybe this time we'll get some relics?

 Sersi wrote:

 bubber wrote:
To peeps with all 3 Chaos Sups (BL, CS & TH), can I make a decent DG force? If so, which of the books should I buy (from 0 to all 3)?
Cheers!

Although you can take cults troops as an auxiliary, again not worth the all the tax units. Since, GW didn't make the cult formation a core choice as that would apparently be just to OP. You better off just run a CAD and taking what ever formations you like as the detachment bonus isn't worth taking all the tax units in the "warband".

The thing that annoys me is why is Khorne the only god with a exclusive formation (again), i wouldn't mind but Khorne keeps getting formations when the other gods have nothing, even though Khorne has his own bloody codex.

I wish CSM had received god specific artifacts and warlord traits like Daemons had in wulfen.

Doubly so with the sheer amount of character we are forced to take with these formations.

From GW facebook.
Artwork from war zone fenris II

Woooooaaaaaa

wtf are those things?

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Woooooaaaaaa

wtf are those things?

Something that will never see play in the game because they are the size of a battle cruiser. But they look like crazy ass Chaos dropships.

40K/Necromunger crossover confirmed.

I feel like I should know...

What is the snake representing?

 DarkBlack wrote:
I feel like I should know...

What is the snake representing?

The Thousand Sons' Chapter Emblem is a snake devouring its own tail.

Silver Towers?

Cool...

Hmm, interesting, looking forward to that.

Outstanding!

I honestly did not expect Fenris Part 2, but I'm darn happy for it!

I just got my hands on plastic Void Shield Generator. I am happy to report that it is a high quality kit, easily on par with Armoured Munitorum Containers and Promethium Relay Pipes. In other words, it's lot better than Plasma Obliterator, any Wall of Martyrs piece or Age of Sigmar scenery.

The snake attacking the wolf in the space background, the cool landing crafts......this is so awesome.

These are CSM! They aren't allowed to have orbital drop ships.. They can only infiltrate D3 units per invasion.

Drop ships? I see battleships bombarding a Planet

Looks like Silver Towers of Tzeentch to me.

 Zywus wrote:
40K/Necromunger crossover confirmed.

Indeed

I seem to remember hearing that this is the final black crusade.

I bet the Thousand Sons lose.

 agnosto wrote:

 Zywus wrote:
40K/Necromunger crossover confirmed.

Indeed

Remember everything GW does is their own designs without any outside influence at all.

That said, I am surprised GW would make those awesome drop spikes. Didn't they have a policy no pictures if no minis, or is that no rules to no minis?

Davor wrote:

Spoiler:

 agnosto wrote:

 Zywus wrote:
40K/Necromunger crossover confirmed.

Indeed

Remember everything GW does is their own designs without any outside influence at all.

That said, I am surprised GW would make those awesome drop spikes. Didn't they have a policy no pictures if no minis, or is that no rules to no minis?

Heh, maybe we'll see silver towers for the forthcoming BFG relaunch, whenever that is.

That'd be pretty darn cool, actually.

Remember that the Thousand Sons aren't the only ones with a snake emblem...








Heil Hydra

I hope they include a core formation for Bran Redmaw's great company.

I custom built a model for him and everything...