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Dreadnought + Walking Cane = Librarian Dread Conversion?

Klaus von Groehm wrote:
This... *barf*

I... I actually like that one.... lol

Some of the stuff discussed here I liked... and others I agree sucked.

In the end it's all "In my opinion."

 Elbows wrote:
Funny, I didn't like Karandras until I built him recently and didn't paint him green. Mounted on a thin 30mm base with the head at the correct angle it turned out quite nicely. The helmet is still a bit overkill, but my distaste for the model diminished when it was finished. Maugan Ra isn't bad, though he's freakin' huge by comparison. Not a fan of the others. Asurmen is okay but his face bugs me. Baharroth is just a bit much, Jain Zar I'd have to agree with the hair - I've wanted to try painting her up though - never have. Feugan is just a little too static for me.

I guess when I think of it, Maugan Ra is the one I dislike the least. He just seems... uninspired and like they really missed a chance to make an Eldar "Grim Reaper" kind of model. That, I would love to see, but he is okay.

For Jain Zar, she does look much better once painted. I left her bare for a long time and decided to paint all of my Phoenix Lords (except Irillyth - he is the only one that I think is actually quite beautiful) for last Armies on Parade. She seems less sad once she has paint, apart from the jumping to her death off my shelf every week or so. He arms always popped off when she hit the floor so now she is pretty far towards the back of the display case. I think it's a top heavy problem - she is a lot easier to tip over.

I am glad you like Karandras. I think my labeling him as my least favorite is just design preference. I always thought he had even less motion than Fuegan, and I really prefer models with motion. And Karandras always came off as a rip off of the Predator from the AVP series, and I find them rather comical for the most part - not something I want leading my graceful and fluid space elves into battle really.

So, yeah, it really comes down to the Phoenix Lords being way more static and bulky. It just does not fit right with my ideal of Craftworld Eldar, especially CWE from before the Fall, height of their empire kind of times.

Edit: Huh, it never occurred to paint Karandras anything other than the super dark green. I wish I would have - your interpretation in the bone-white ish color is actually quite striking. It really overcomes the top-heavy problem I have with him.

It doesn't hurt that I have him on a thin 30mm base...I also did Maugan Ra in a rather "different" paint scheme. They really benefit from a larger base (heck they overhang on the 25's they used to ship with). As I said, I didn't even like Karandras when I started the model (found him cheap on eBay) but by the time I was done my opinion changed completely!

Tyranid Exocrine, It looks like a dumpy turtle,

 Lance845 wrote:
Tyranid Exocrine, It looks like a dumpy turtle,

Don't forget the biovore and pyrovore as well

I actually like the look of the pyrovore. But yeah, biovore is bad.

Taurox could have been such a cool model but its just became so wrong.



Will still buy one but with wheels and then make a new model for it, got some nice inspiration from dead rising

Jazz-hands McGee, the leader of the Wulfen squad they have on the box art. I just can't take any part of him seriously, even at different angles.

Gotta say, the new release of Favoured of Chaos looks terrible, too.

 ZergSmasher wrote:


Finally, the worst offender, Logan Grimnar playing Santa Claus:

This model is just bad from concept to execution. I can suspend my disbelief over TWC, but this...no, just no.
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I keep thinking about picking one up to break up for parts, because there are some good components in there. Haven't done it yet, though.

For me, it's the small things that can ruin otherwise lovely models. I could really get behind some of the AoS miniatures, but the scale of some weapons leaves much to be desired. By far the worst thing, however, is the strange theme of having skulls poking out of holes in characters. Archaon's mount, Dorghar, and the Khorne Lord from the AoS Starter Set are two fantastic models that are horrendously sullied by being pockmarked with skull-filled holes.

 Elbows wrote:
Funny, I didn't like Karandras until I built him recently and didn't paint him green. Mounted on a thin 30mm base with the head at the correct angle it turned out quite nicely. The helmet is still a bit overkill, but my distaste for the model diminished when it was finished. Maugan Ra isn't bad, though he's freakin' huge by comparison. Not a fan of the others. Asurmen is okay but his face bugs me. Baharroth is just a bit much, Jain Zar I'd have to agree with the hair - I've wanted to try painting her up though - never have. Feugan is just a little too static for me.

I agree about Maugan Ra, he just barely fits on a 25mm base and looks nothing like a Dark Reaper. Karandras I quite like, but mine came sans head, so I gave him a faceless mask from a Reaver Jetbiker and turned him into a renegade Autarch in case I want to build an allied detachment for my Kabalites sometime.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
For me, it's the small things that can ruin otherwise lovely models. I could really get behind some of the AoS miniatures, but the scale of some weapons leaves much to be desired. By far the worst thing, however, is the strange theme of having skulls poking out of holes in characters. Archaon's mount, Dorghar, and the Khorne Lord from the AoS Starter Set are two fantastic models that are horrendously sullied by being pockmarked with skull-filled holes.

Yeah, it's like some kind of horrible subcutaneous infection. Thankfully the problem is reasonably easy to fix with green stuff.

I actually like quite a few of the models mentioned, notably the contemptor dread - it seems to make a good deal more sense than the box-dread...and harlequins, I just like them...they're so energetic.

now, I like basically everything GW/FW have made for orks, except one(two?) - the (G/M)orkanaut...it's just such a big, boxy slab of a thing, it looks like a skip/dumpster!





see??

also, something about that new kharn (we don't even need to mention the price)...I just do not like that model, I seriously prefer the old one...the pose makes no sense to me - maybe if he was part of a diorama, with some poor sap that's just been lopped in half by his chainaxe, that might work, but just as he is, the pose lacks context, I guess...I don't know, it just rubs me the wrong way.

oh, beasts of nurgle. I would actually like to try running some beasts in a game sometime, but man is that model bad...

 ZoBo wrote:
oh, beasts of nurgle. I would actually like to try running some beasts in a game sometime, but man is that model bad...

Wow, that is awful. I mean, what is it supposed to be even? I get that nameless/faceless horrors can be a thing... but that is just comically awful looking.

I'm a huge fan of Raven Guard, been working on my Raven Guard army for a while since I decided to go with them. My favorite character is the CM Shrike, but the model they have of him, just the pose is terrible.

I'm hoping with the new special edition book and a surge in Raven Guard models, that they will update him, since he is now the Chapter Master and not just a Shadow Captain. They are making some pretty good looking Deathwatch marines, a multi piece shrike with some options would be fantastic.

I love it when a Raven Guard player teases you about not painting your army. Oh, and I think anything Nurgle looks okay, because, it's Nurgle for heavens sakes.

lliu wrote:
Oh, and I think anything Nurgle looks okay, because, it's Nurgle for heavens sakes.

Yeah I also think some models just represent their lore and just have to have a certain vibe. Nurgle is going to be gross and orcs are going to look like heaps of boxy stuff thrown together

 He_Man_Russ wrote:

lliu wrote:
Oh, and I think anything Nurgle looks okay, because, it's Nurgle for heavens sakes.

Yeah I also think some models just represent their lore and just have to have a certain vibe. Nurgle is going to be gross and orcs are going to look like heaps of boxy stuff thrown together

Oh I totally get that, I just find the beast of nurgle to be a bit of a bad, lazy sculpt, it doesn't fit the lore either imo.

And the orkanaut, I think what bothers me is, there's too much flat, clean space on it...I much prefer the more characterful, patchwork look of the trukk, battlewagon, walkers, etc

While I don't inherently dislike them, the new Khorne AoS models are way too big. They upped the scale a lot.

But the Stormcasts though... really ugly.

 Matthew wrote:
While I don't inherently dislike them, the new Khorne AoS models are way too big. They upped the scale a lot.

But the Stormcasts though... really ugly.

Scale isn't actually bigger, but models are.

So are they eventually going to release human AoS figures that match the scale from humans released a few years ago?

Nothing from the new AoS line that I've seen (haven't seen the new elf stuff) looks good next to their older models. The stormcasts, the heroes from Silver Tower, the Orruk Brutes, they all look so silly alongside the older models.

I hear that's "OK" per the fluff, but dang it's ugly. No. Thank. You.

Straight to their competitors I shall head with my dollars.

The new broodlord, mostly because the old sculpt was so much better.
The new one looks completely out of place in a genestealer brood, because of its leaning pose (while the other ones are moving forward). The old sculpt looked like it was focusing some sort of internal furry, and telling its brother to dismember everything in their path.

Ive always thought the obliterators looked awful. The posessed marines ive always thought look terrible too, but that might just be me.

Yeah. Obliterations. Like, wut?

Oh, and the later Necron Flayers look like complete turds compared to the earlier ones.

Okay, I tried to point to a few different things that are particularly bad yet get good pictures of them.
You know: "Making a silk purse out of a sow's ear."

 Talizvar wrote:
I play these guys but I see such good "fixes" for this model: I present to you the original baby carrier:

I absolutely love this model. But as soon as you referred to it as the "original baby carrier" , it will never be as cool or intimidating ever again.

I think the Grey Knights Dreadknight, if it was enclosed operator, with a head on it, could have been what the Imperial Knight looked like, just larger in size, instead of the hunchback look of the Knights they did make.