What is your most HATED model to glue / paint ?

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**master of ordinance**

Ah, none 40K models?
Dark Age Skarrd Charities Might and the Golab. hahahahahahaneveragainever.

Or for that matter the Brood Howler. That huge lump of resin will not stay together. I have pinned it, I have put supports in the base, I have done everything and still that huge torso breaks off its foot.
Otherwise it is a lovely model.

**Mental Surge**

SicSemperTyrannis wrote:
Necron Heavy Destroyer Upgrades... basically everything Finecrap

completely agree. As someone who had to buy three heavy destroyer components I can attest to that. Finecast is so abysmal, that it's downright hilarious. Not to mention I also had several other finecast necron models like the original overlord model, the lord model, and Anrk'yr the traveler. The worst though was with the destroyer lord model I bought several months ago and actually had to order a replacement because it was so bad. Finecast is just awful in every way. It's always warped, brittle, and always detail that's ruined. not to mention all the air bubbles and flash that is always present. I would take metal over finecast regardless of the model.

Oh and I bought a Tau Commander with the new Tau codex release several years ago, and the casting was so bad I gave up on it. Kind of funny how with the newer Tau codex released a year ago, they replaced it with a plastic one.

How did finecast make it past the quality control?

It's mindboggling to me that companies like Wargame Exclusive have models that are of better quality, with better detail, and are made of quality material, AND cost less than half the amount of the GW equivelant. Seriously compare finecast to anything by http://wargameexclusive.com/. GW should be embarrassed.

**Col. Dash**

Drop pods from GW. I hate them with a passion. Especially if this new faq becomes true and I cant simply glue the doors shut like I do now.

If we extend into FW, pretty much any of the small IG figures with a zillion tiny parts you have to glue on.

**jreilly89**

Ork Boyz. For how quickly they die and how few points they are, they have so many little details and pieces/gubbinz.

**Scourged**

The legs of a Chaos Decimator. That was my project over the weekend. In all reality, it wasn't that bad. It just... without a very liberal application of improvised chip-clip clamping it would still be a heap beneath it's torso.

**jasper76**

Ghost Ark, hands down. What a PITA.

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Mental Surge wrote:
SicSemperTyrannis wrote:
Necron Heavy Destroyer Upgrades... basically everything Finecrap

completely agree. As someone who had to buy three heavy destroyer components I can attest to that. Finecast is so abysmal, that it's downright hilarious. Not to mention I also had several other finecast necron models like the original overlord model, the lord model, and Anrk'yr the traveler. The worst though was with the destroyer lord model I bought several months ago and actually had to order a replacement because it was so bad. Finecast is just awful in every way. It's always warped, brittle, and always detail that's ruined. not to mention all the air bubbles and flash that is always present. I would take metal over finecast regardless of the model.

Yes, this kit is so bad, I returned it for replacement 3 times to GW, before realizing there are no good replacements to be had...the sculpt combined with the material is just broke.

**ServiceGames**

Drop Pod with Magmadroth running a close second

**Nevelon**

Drop pods are always at the top of my list. Some of that might just be the fact that they are a good mix of recent pain and irritation. Some of the old metals were a bear to work with, but they are so long in the past, time has dulled the wounds. That or my memory is failing.

Probably a combination of the two.

But drop pods; they can die in a fire. Of that I’m sure.

**Baldeagle91**

Purifier wrote:
master of ordinance wrote:
Imperial. Fething. Guard. Cadians.
I must have assembled about a hundred of those little buggers and it never gets any easier. Yes, I know that they are simple models but the real effort comes from the sheer amount you have to do. Painting again and again ad infinitum as you try desperately to think that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, only to find that light is just the sun reflecting off yet more grey plastic....
Yeah, painting a massed army of bods is not fun.

I skewered my finger attempting to modify one of those. 5 stitches!

I chopped off the top of my thumb trying to modify a cadian too....

**ServiceGames**

master of ordinance wrote:
Imperial. Fething. Guard. Cadians.
I must have assembled about a hundred of those little buggers and it never gets any easier. Yes, I know that they are simple models but the real effort comes from the sheer amount you have to do. Painting again and again ad infinitum as you try desperately to think that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, only to find that light is just the sun reflecting off yet more grey plastic....
Yeah, painting a massed army of bods is not fun.

Any Swarm Army like this is such a pain. It's not necessarily that painting them is difficult, but the sheer volume that is so overwhelming. I think I have about 80 of my 100 Gaunts/Gants painted. And, since then, I haven't even attempted to finish them up. I probably will one day.

Wish me luck, I just started collecting guard and am in the process of assembling/priming/base coating 50 Guardsmen, 10 Commanders (two different command squads), a Commisar, and a Heavy Weaopns Team. I intend to finish up assembling them tonight. I have primed 25 of them and laid the base coat down on 15 of them. Got a LONG way to go. And, this is the army I hope to use for Armies on Parade on the 15th of next month (which also includes several Guard Tanks, an APC, and an Imperial Knight).

SG

**Ffyllotek**

Necron Heavy Destroyer. But also getting two-handed polearm weapons on the lychguard is often pretty tricky too... unless they want to be known as wristily disjointed-guard.

**Imateria**

Robin5t wrote:
Putting together a Death Jester is roughly as enjoyable as having a cage fight with a hungry bear.

Definitely this, it took me over an hour to put together the Death Jester from Death Masque for a model that should take less than 15 minutes.

As for painting, Gaunts of any type, so so boring.

**Dakka Wolf**

Wulfen.
I look forward to using them, I don't mind painting them but I hate building Wulfen, fitting the legs and torso together is a damn nightmare - they rarely fit properly, spikey bits make holding them together a painand after a few slip ups they don't fit at all.

**Whirlwind**

Eldar Guardians, always hate putting all those fiddly pieces of plastic together.

Also does anyone remember rage skulls promotion three marines planting the flag (ww2 style).That was one of the most annoying models ever. You needed to pin all six hands on the banner meaning trying to get it all lined up with bodies and legs was hideous.

**Bi'ios**

Easily Necron Warriors. I just can not get the arms to line up properly, and it's even got a ball that fits into the socket on them, with no hand on the off arm that fits into a notch on the other. It's freaking embarrassing, considering I've put like 50 of the little guys together, and who knows how many other models. I can build a damn forgeworld knight or a spartan no problem, but the tiny little warrior gives me a hard time. It takes me less time to paint one than it does to build one, no lie.

**JohnHwangDD**

I own a metal Empire Steam Tank. The second version, that later got redone as plastic. It's 2 fething pounds of metal, zillions of little pieces that I simply do not want to assemble. Every time I open the box, I look at it and put it away.

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master of ordinance wrote:
Imperial. Fething. Guard. Cadians.
I must have assembled about a hundred of those little buggers and it never gets any easier. Yes, I know that they are simple models but the real effort comes from the sheer amount you have to do. Painting again and again ad infinitum as you try desperately to think that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, only to find that light is just the sun reflecting off yet more grey plastic....
Yeah, painting a massed army of bods is not fun.

It is no accident that my IG are metal Tallarn. Sure, you pay like $5 more per squad compared to the plastic (not that plastic was really a choice when I bought the bulk of my Tallarn), but those mono-pose Tallarn are pretty easy to get on the board!

Of course, where I fethed up was doing a tiger stripe camo pattern on the first couple dozen of them. Yeah, I totally fethed myself there...

**SicSemperTyrannis**

jasper76 wrote:
Ghost Ark, hands down. What a PITA.

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Mental Surge wrote:
SicSemperTyrannis wrote:
Necron Heavy Destroyer Upgrades... basically everything Finecrap

completely agree. As someone who had to buy three heavy destroyer components I can attest to that. Finecast is so abysmal, that it's downright hilarious. Not to mention I also had several other finecast necron models like the original overlord model, the lord model, and Anrk'yr the traveler. The worst though was with the destroyer lord model I bought several months ago and actually had to order a replacement because it was so bad. Finecast is just awful in every way. It's always warped, brittle, and always detail that's ruined. not to mention all the air bubbles and flash that is always present. I would take metal over finecast regardless of the model.

Yes, this kit is so bad, I returned it for replacement 3 times to GW, before realizing there are no good replacements to be had...the sculpt combined with the material is just broke.

I found painting Ghost Arks is even worse. Three Times? Oh man... I just got Mail that GW is going to replace em. I hope I don´t need to go through that many times.

I found the Obelisk also horrible to assemble. So many parts that have to mesh together.

**LordTyphus**

Maybe not my most hated model, but most hated part is probably Crisis Suit left shoulder pads, I always accidentally pose the arm before attaching the pad and learn that now the jump pack hardly fits, at least I glue the jump packs last.

**Xathrodox86**

Anything from FW, not bathed in a bowl of water and soap.

**master of ordinance**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
I own a metal Empire Steam Tank. The second version, that later got redone as plastic. It's 2 fething pounds of metal, zillions of little pieces that I simply do not want to assemble. Every time I open the box, I look at it and put it away.

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master of ordinance wrote:
Imperial. Fething. Guard. Cadians.
I must have assembled about a hundred of those little buggers and it never gets any easier. Yes, I know that they are simple models but the real effort comes from the sheer amount you have to do. Painting again and again ad infinitum as you try desperately to think that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, only to find that light is just the sun reflecting off yet more grey plastic....
Yeah, painting a massed army of bods is not fun.

It is no accident that my IG are metal Tallarn. Sure, you pay like $5 more per squad compared to the plastic (not that plastic was really a choice when I bought the bulk of my Tallarn), but those mono-pose Tallarn are pretty easy to get on the board!

Of course, where I fethed up was doing a tiger stripe camo pattern on the first couple dozen of them. Yeah, I totally fethed myself there...

Tiger pattern camo... What where you thinking you poor bugger!

**Zewrath**

Xathrodox86 wrote:
Anything from FW, not bathed in a bowl of water and soap.

This. So much this. It's come to the point where I don't even look at the models/upgrade pack, is just immediately put them in a bowl of water with soap and a hot water bowl next to it, in case (4/5 times) anything needs to be straightened out.

**Talys**

Zewrath wrote:
Xathrodox86 wrote:
Anything from FW, not bathed in a bowl of water and soap.

This. So much this. It's come to the point where I don't even look at the models/upgrade pack, is just immediately put them in a bowl of water with soap and a hot water bowl next to it, in case (4/5 times) anything needs to be straightened out.

Except for the smallest fidly bits, I usually cut them off the sprues and do some rough filing/sanding first, since washing it gets rid of all that resin dust that comes from that.

**oni**

Eldar Wraithlord... the feet are a nightmare.

**Hawky**

My 30th Guardsman and every one after him. And I have (only) 60 of them.

**KharnsRightHand**

I got a first-generation Spartan. It took about 8 hours to put together, between the horrible tracks, cutting the damn thing off the gates, having to greenstuff basically every piece because none of the large flat surfaces would glue together by themselves. Bloody nightmare.

**JohnHwangDD**

master of ordinance wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:
master of ordinance wrote:
Imperial. Fething. Guard. Cadians.
I must have assembled about a hundred of those little buggers and it never gets any easier. Yes, I know that they are simple models but the real effort comes from the sheer amount you have to do. Painting again and again ad infinitum as you try desperately to think that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, only to find that light is just the sun reflecting off yet more grey plastic....
Yeah, painting a massed army of bods is not fun.

It is no accident that my IG are metal Tallarn. Sure, you pay like $5 more per squad compared to the plastic (not that plastic was really a choice when I bought the bulk of my Tallarn), but those mono-pose Tallarn are pretty easy to get on the board!

Of course, where I fethed up was doing a tiger stripe camo pattern on the first couple dozen of them. Yeah, I totally fethed myself there...

Tiger pattern camo... What where you thinking you poor bugger!

I was thinking that the squad looked cool. And the platoon looked really good. Then I realized I had dug myself into a huge hole.

I need to salvage this so that only Veterans are in camo.

**Insectum7**

I used to paint armies on commission. Forge world resin is the reason why I never bought any finecast models when they came out. However, by far the most obnoxious model I ever assembled and painted was the metal Throne of Judgement. So many tiny, ill-fitting pieces had to be pinned, painted separately and then assembled into the final model. In the same collection was three Penitent Engines, which were also a huge pain.

**dekinrie**

if were talking fiddly bits try just about anything from infinity beautiful models but the amount of times I've glued antenna's or arms to my fingers trying to build them and i picked the easy looking faction ariadna god help nomad or aleph players tried but gave up

**Althornin**

Dantes_Baals wrote:
1. Ghost Ark. One of the few things about crons I dislike more than the dex itself

2. Fire Raptor. I suppose if the hull wasn't warped into the shape of a shoe horn, this probably wouldn't be on the list. But the warping combined with terrible instructions lands this one at number 2.

3. Dark Eldar Reaver Jetbikes. I don't think I need to elaborate on these. Those who have built these know of what I speak. Those who haven't, we'll trust ne. You aren't missing any savory life experience.

Runner up: Drop Pods. They would have been tied with the ghost arks until I figured out that things are much easier when you build them from the top down.

Oh gods, the Fire Raptor.... Mine is mostly together. I use a hot air gun to fix resin deformation, so it is no big deal, but the whole model just ends up with gaps, stuff not fitting right, and if you don't have a ton of clamps and stuff, the damn thing will never go together. Literally the only model I've had to use clamps on.

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the Signless wrote:
Maréchal des Logis Walter wrote:
The god damn Chaos Defiler. So much paws aaaaaaah!!!
I helped a friend assemble his. . . never again. It is bloody near impossible to get the legs so that they all support the body.

Nah, this one is easy, you just have to know the trick: Put a small box under the body (height appropriate to what you want for your defiler), position the legs, and glue. No big deal. I like to leave one arm mobile, along with its claws, so I can hold the first enemy model that it kills over head. Most of my opponents enjoy this

**conker249**

Sisters of Battle Pentinent engine. Solid metal that doesnt fit together at all, had to heavy pin, greenstuff, and made a popsicle frame to hold it up while the epoxy dried.

Sisters Of battle Exorcist. So much metal in the organ with huge gaps. such tiny parts for the organ player and servitor. I had the heart breaking feeling when my exorcist was knocked into the floor and exploded in 40 different pieces. never found her hand again.

Skaven Doomwheel. No matter how many times I assembled one, I screw it up and forget a part. There are so many tiny rats that go in the smaller wheel, but just barely enough to be a part of the larger wheel, that is past the weapons...I GIVE UP ITS A WHEEL!