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I'm just really uncomfortable with them saying they don't know how many (or exactly what) scenery pieces are going to be done

I've pledged an early bird for now, though judging from the comments I've seen here so far.. I'm not sure if this is a rodeo I want to sit out.

I'm a sucker for scifi so I'm in for now. Unfortunately I didn't get an EB though... so if any of you EB people plan on dropping, let me know. ^_^

On the plus side, there are alpha rules available from the get go. Hopefully we'll see more finalized examples of the co-op mode as well as the character creator and mission generator prior to the end of the campaign.

There's also the print and play pieces at the end of those rules for those interested in trying things out themselves.

Definitely interested in the scenery bits. Those were some of my favorite parts of dungeon saga.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
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Definitely interested in the scenery bits. Those were some of my favorite parts of dungeon saga.

Same here. And that was also the case for Sedition Wars. Sad when the best part of these over-promised games turn out to be the scenic element add-ons. I'm not going to pay a premium for them anymore by pledging for what might likely be another over-hyped, subpar game. I'll get the accessory terrain at retail. Maybe the game if it proves itself once delivered.

Looks fine/fun to me. Nothing to dissuade me from going "ice interested enough in Imperial Assault already"

$100 dollar starting pledge? I guess the pretense of anything other than being a pre-order system for them is gone.

FWIW, I think I'm gonna drop down to $1 just to watch and maybe get in on the pledge manager later.. if anyone wants my EB pledge spot let me know and we'll set up a time. Might be better to wait a couple days though to make sure someone else doesn't jump in before you, since it's day 1 and getting the most traffic today

 Ahtman wrote:
$100 dollar starting pledge? I guess the pretense of anything other than being a pre-order system for them is gone.

I'm not really disputing the conclusion (most Kickstarters from medium sized companies or larger are mainly pre-orders by another name) but I don't see what a $100 starting pledge has to do with it?

I was burned hard on the Dungeon Saga and Kings of War 2 Kickstarters.

As much as I like Mantic I can't back any of their kickstarters anymore.

Define burned - I have been in on all the Deadzone/Warpath KS and I have not been disapointed, Excellent value for price!

The artwork looks really blah to me - so much white and so clean, and there are far too many duplicate poses on those miniatures. Not feeling this at all. My $100 can buy far better elsewhere.

I didn't come here just to bash, though. I do honestly hope the game play is stellar. It's the truth that there are just not enough good sci-fi dungeon-crawl style games.

Alyse is unlocked



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Stretch Goal: $180,000 - Alternate Minion Poses

Hitting this goal will allow us to double the tooling required for the game’s Minions, so we can double the number of poses to 12 for more variety in your games. We have created new miniatures for the Lab Technician, Security Guard, Corporation Marine and Plague Victim, all shown below, which will be added to the production schedule.

Stretch Goal: $200,000 - Enforcer ES435, Codename ‘Monarch’

With this goal, we will add an all new mission to the end of the story, capturing the final showdown between the Mercenary Strike Team and ‘Monarch’, the Council’s representative on Eiras. Monarch will have a miniature and character card, which will be added to the core game as a new boss.

The head is comically huge....

I noticed that... maybe she's a space puffer fish vampire and she's in aggressive don't mess with me mode? :p

Yup that head on the render looks terrible compared to the rather nice artwork

She reminds me of one of the Fighting Fungi mushroom people.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Yup that head on the render looks terrible compared to the rather nice artwork

Maybe she uses the same magic that their KoW Trolls use to walk on their comically undersized legs?

Mantic: "We have no idea what 'functional anatomy' means."

Alyse looks decent to me. She (it?) is an alien after all so I have no problem with a big head. Reminds me a bit of the Independence day aliens.

Much of the head might be bladders, empry space or something porous with little weight so I wouldn't say it's anywhere near as problematic as the undersized troll legs.

I much prefer the head in the artwork and since this is the first artwork to render it does not bode well.

Edit for the record.

Like a puppet being handled by a poor puppeteer..

Render looks fine to me, whether it will turn out like that is another matter.

Someone page me when I can pledge for a dozen or two of those terrain sprues without the base game.

 Zywus wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
$100 dollar starting pledge? I guess the pretense of anything other than being a pre-order system for them is gone.

I'm not really disputing the conclusion (most Kickstarters from medium sized companies or larger are mainly pre-orders by another name) but I don't see what a $100 starting pledge has to do with it?

All the seminars I attended on the subject talked about the sweet spot which is around $20 or $30, though that isn't always true of course. Many KSs also have had a $1 or $5 pledge those who want to keep an eye on it, just to sort of help, or whatever. This has absolutely none of those things. There really aren't much above it either as you have the individual order and the retail order... and that is essentially all there really is. Instead of being rewarded for investing you are rewarded for pre-ordering. If one wants to do that it is fine, but it isn't a great way to do a KS to be honest.

Re: Alyse and her(?) head: It appears to me that, rather than upscaling the head, they downscaled that ridiculous collar.

Unfortunately the collar seems to be roughly the dimensions of the concept art.

I was thinking the head in the art was too small....and prefer the render head, different strokes and all that.

Think the render has a human sized head (heroic scaled n all that) with the bits added too it to get this look.

Very doubtful the skin texture will come out in production minis

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Unfortunately the collar seems to be roughly the dimensions of the concept art.

The collar in the first image goes straight up from the shoulders, rather like a tube. Unless it's safety-pinned in place, it should slide right to the floor. In the render, it's cinched around the neck, which I think makes the head look bigger in comparison.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Zywus wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
$100 dollar starting pledge? I guess the pretense of anything other than being a pre-order system for them is gone.

I'm not really disputing the conclusion (most Kickstarters from medium sized companies or larger are mainly pre-orders by another name) but I don't see what a $100 starting pledge has to do with it?

All the seminars I attended on the subject talked about the sweet spot which is around $20 or $30, though that isn't always true of course. Many KSs also have had a $1 or $5 pledge those who want to keep an eye on it, just to sort of help, or whatever. This has absolutely none of those things. There really aren't much above it either as you have the individual order and the retail order... and that is essentially all there really is. Instead of being rewarded for investing you are rewarded for pre-ordering. If one wants to do that it is fine, but it isn't a great way to do a KS to be honest.

I've pledged $1.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'm just really uncomfortable with them saying they don't know how many (or exactly what) scenery pieces are going to be done

So far, so usual.