Codex Genestealer Cult

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**Leth**

Yea but you can't charge out of the gorkanaut

**Oguhmek**

Exactly.

**Davor**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
MajorWesJanson wrote:
You have Limos. If anyone needs Land Raider access, it's Harlequins.

I'm an equal Land Raider opportunity kind of Commissar. Everyone can have them! Even the Ta... ok no, not the Tau. I'm not that crazy.

Ah Land Raiders, the place where Space Marines hide and cower and only come out when the real danger is out. Played real fluffily LOL.

**Kirasu**

Commissar-Danno wrote:
FW has been moving away from the renegades as of late, they may come out with a new line for the horus heresy but IDK if the main GW folks will take that over for their version of 30k.

How do you figure that? Most recent IA is all about renegades and Vraks version 2 featured them also. Not exactly a very evidence based opinion :p

**howie**

More pictures

**gorgon**

Outstanding.

**Kanluwen**

Garbage.

Leman Russes are going to stay garbage tier, it seems. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay....

**reds8n**

https://regimental-standard.com/2016/09/21/alien-infection-detected-in-your-sector/

Look alive, Guardsmen,

We have detected possible alien contamination in your sector.

The Ordo Xenos has requested that all guardsman be on the lookout for individuals acting suspiciously, sickly, or showing any sign of alien taint. The exact nature of the alien infection has not been disclosed, but the Inquisition has requested that any individuals showing unusual symptoms, or those folically challenged, be subject to immediate quarantine, for their own good*.

In addition, your usual supply of rations has been identified as a possible source of infection, and as such, shipments from usual locations have been halted with immediate effect and are headed for the incinerator. Fortunately, we have secured an alternate supplier. Ghosar Agri Solutions were only too happy to help with the war effort and have kindly donated 10,000 crates of supplies. These are already on route and will be with you in a matter of days.

In related news, following the sad death of Preacher Theodor Harex** we are delighted to announce that your regiment’s spiritual guidance will henceforth be provided by a new preacher, also generously provided by Ghosar Agri Solutions: Sebastian Quintus. He has requested that the first congregation be held in the hangar bay upon delivery of our new rations so that we may thank the Emperor for such a glorious bounty.

Fear not, we are sure that the Ordo Xenos will have the situation resolved quickly.

Thought for the Day:
“Death brings no peace to the unfaithful.”

*Any guardsmen who fail to report such individuals will also be quarantined.

**Investigation into his death has found no cause for suspicion.

**tetrisphreak**

Damn this release has me giddy.

What are the odds that GSC will have access to artillery like basilisks and wyverns, do you suppose?

**howie**

I'd hope not otherwise they'd just be a better strain of the guard.

**Kanluwen**

tetrisphreak wrote:
Damn this release has me giddy.

What are the odds that GSC will have access to artillery like basilisks and wyverns, do you suppose?

It better be none at all.

The Basilisk kit, though, needs to be replaced so you'll probably have access to it with whatever nonsense sprue they throw in.

**Nevelon**

tetrisphreak wrote:
Damn this release has me giddy.

What are the odds that GSC will have access to artillery like basilisks and wyverns, do you suppose?

If they are getting access to Russ’s, I think it’s well within the realm of possibility.

The only thing holding them back would be an overall meta-theme to the army. If GW wanted to keep them from just being tainted guard++, they might not allow them access to heavy artillery, etc.

**shinros**

The inquisition are not doing their jobs properly.

**Kanluwen**

Nevelon wrote:
tetrisphreak wrote:
Damn this release has me giddy.

What are the odds that GSC will have access to artillery like basilisks and wyverns, do you suppose?

If they are getting access to Russ’s, I think it’s well within the realm of possibility.

The only thing holding them back would be an overall meta-theme to the army. If GW wanted to keep them from just being tainted guard++, they might not allow them access to heavy artillery, etc.

If GW wanted to keep them from doing that, then they shouldn't even allow Russes.

**BrookM**

Holy gak man, calm the feth down already.

**gorgon**

tetrisphreak wrote:
Damn this release has me giddy.

What are the odds that GSC will have access to artillery like basilisks and wyverns, do you suppose?

My guess is that the codex will include only the most basic of AM vehicles. But who knows?

I'd certainly love to be able to share Peace and Love in a GCult detachment and not have to bring another detachment or formation.

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howie wrote:
I'd hope not otherwise they'd just be a better strain of the guard.

Those tears would be DELICIOUS.

**Kanluwen**

BrookM wrote:
Holy gak man, calm the feth down already.

Perfectly calm. Annoyed, but calm.

It's ridiculous that Guard got shoved the Taurox nonsense but here we're seeing a vehicle that would have fit in perfectly(an open-topped transport with a small-ish heavy weapon) to replace the legacy nonsense that is the Rough Riders...and we're seeing Guard vehicles shoveled in as well, because hey it's not like Genestealer Cults have traditionally been tied to Planetary Defense Forces instead of Guard Regiments...and it's not like they've been making an effort to distance the two even further, to the point of wrecking an integral part of the Cadian fluff(Interior Guard was pure Guardsmen; now it's a PDF quality organization).

**tetrisphreak**

It's my understanding that in the original cult army list they had access to russes, sentinels, chimeras, and a friend told me they could take Valkyries as well (I didn't think the Valkyrie existed in 3e)

**Kanluwen**

tetrisphreak wrote:
It's my understanding that in the original cult army list they had access to russes, sentinels, chimeras, and a friend told me they could take Valkyries as well (I didn't think the Valkyrie existed in 3e)

The Valkyrie did not exist then.

I don't know the original Cult army list, but there was mention in this thread from people who would have been playing around that time about Land Raiders...which used to be a more widespread thing, so who cares what the original Cult army list had?

**Caederes**

Kanluwen wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Holy gak man, calm the feth down already.

Perfectly calm. Annoyed, but calm.

It's ridiculous that Guard got shoved the Taurox nonsense but here we're seeing a vehicle that would have fit in perfectly(an open-topped transport with a small-ish heavy weapon) to replace the legacy nonsense that is the Rough Riders...and we're seeing Guard vehicles shoveled in as well, because hey it's not like Genestealer Cults have traditionally been tied to Planetary Defense Forces instead of Guard Regiments...and it's not like they've been making an effort to distance the two even further, to the point of wrecking an integral part of the Cadian fluff(Interior Guard was pure Guardsmen; now it's a PDF quality organization).

I'm looking at an old Genestealer Cult codex right now and Leman Russes were available to them. What's your problem exactly?

**Ambience 327**

Could we maybe wait and see exactly how things work? The last time we saw true looted vehicles in 40K, they had a special rule that made them less reliable than their IG counterparts. Perhaps these liberated vehicles will be similarly hampered?

And if you don't like something they have access to, don't use it, or convert/scratchbuild a PDF-based equivalent. Who says your "Leman Russ" has to be an actual "Leman Russ" instead of a locally produced heavy battle tank or even a "Ghosar Quintus Pattern Heavy Hauler retrofitted with a battle cannon"

**fresus**

Maybe they'll have access to many things, but with strong limitations on the numbers they can field.
It could be "you can only bring one looted vehicle per X units of something else".
Or the looted stuff is only part of formations, where it's only a small portion of the force.
There are ways to include some IG vehicle without stealing IG's thunder.

**Caederes**

The one I'm looking at has no Land Raiders, but it does have Captured Predators and Captured Rhinos. Note that the Leman Russ didn't have the Captured keyword...

**Kanluwen**

fresus wrote:
Maybe they'll have access to many things, but with strong limitations on the numbers they can field.
It could be "you can only bring one looted vehicle per X units of something else".
Or the looted stuff is only part of formations, where it's only a small portion of the force.
There are ways to include some IG vehicle without stealing IG's thunder.

When was the last book you came across with a 0-1 option?

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Ambience 327 wrote:
Could we maybe wait and see exactly how things work? The last time we saw true looted vehicles in 40K, they had a special rule that made them less reliable than their IG counterparts. Perhaps these liberated vehicles will be similarly hampered?

That was for Orks. GSCs aren't Orks, are they?

And if you don't like something they have access to, don't use it, or convert/scratchbuild a PDF-based equivalent. Who says your "Leman Russ" has to be an actual "Leman Russ" instead of a locally produced heavy battle tank or even a "Ghosar Quintus Pattern Heavy Hauler retrofitted with a battle cannon"

Look at the picture. That's a Leman Russ with a hull mounted Multi-Melta.

**kronk**

howie wrote:
More pictures

Can't wait to see that Tank on the left, you smexy tease, you!

And if GSC is getting Russes, then I also can't wait to see what the next IG codex gets!

**gorgon**

Centuri-Russes. Russes with another tank wrapped around them!

**tetrisphreak**

Okay, cool, I didn't play 40k when genestealer cults were a thing. And yeah, what they had in the past doesn't guarantee this update will include any of it, but it's a good idea of the types of things this book might include.

So we should probably anticipate two more teaser photos tomorrow and friday with preorders going up saturday morning and a full codex cover reveal, etc. I'm really excited over this.

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I hope they do interviews with the authors again as well, like with Deathwatch. That was an enjoyable watch.

**Chikout**

I like the way they are rolling this out with teasers within teasers. I tried to show the background image a little better but I'm not very good with photoshop. Edit assuming this is the new vehicle, may we be seeing a dual build? That glimpse looks quite different from what was shown in the earlier artwork.

**Kanluwen**

For the record:

I'm happy for those who are excited for the Genestealer Cults, no matter my feelings on the Guard stuff being thrown in. I'm gonna bow out of this thread for awhile so that I don't let my negativity dampen anyone's feelings.

**Caederes**

@Kanluwen

Bro, calm down. The established narrative for Genestealer Cult saw them using Leman Russes and even commandeered Space Marine Predators and Rhinos. This is not breaking their fluff. Besides, as an earlier poster pointed out, if you have a problem with it on that front then you can just heavily convert or scratch build other models and use them as appropriate stand-ins.

The Cult mixing their own unique units, select Astra Militarum units all the while being the only faction that can properly ally with Tyranids is a stroke of genius. Regardless of how you feel about the Cult itself, Tyranid players are going to be jumping for joy at the added versatility they just received without having to worry about Come the Apocalypse rules.