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The background of the tank image appears to be a front-view of the GSC Hum-vee that we saw artwork for in the video on Sunday, and silhouetted to the left in the foreground of the same image.

Its pretty smart of GW honestly. If all the guard vehicles, or most at least, are useful to the GSC then all they need to do is sell a few infantry and character kits and put vehicle crew on those sprues. Done and done. It make a release WAY easier then if they had to flesh out a whole new line. I mean look at the cult mech and skitarii, they are neat but holy crap they have two vehicles, the chicken and the crab. They should have many more then that eventually, but look how long that takes.

Holy crap the implications of taking an armored wall alongside a tyranid swarm could make for a really good army.

IF they can be Battle Bros with each other (GSC and Tyranids).

Common, GW. Don't wuss out! Throw a gaunt a bone!

Chikout wrote:
I like the way they are rolling this out with teasers within teasers. I tried to show the background image a little better but I'm not very good with photoshop. Edit assuming this is the new vehicle, may we be seeing a dual build? That glimpse looks quite different from what was shown in the earlier artwork.

Yeah, that makes it look more like a technical.


Edit: I'm not convinced yet about favorable allying with Tyranids. They approach allies from a fluff perspective, and there's a definite argument to be made that GCults would never be "allied" with a hive fleet. Obviously, fluff can change.

 kronk wrote:
IF they can be Battle Bros with each other (GSC and Tyranids).

Common, GW. Don't wuss out! Throw a gaunt a bone!

It ain't even necessary, Allies of Convenience has no real downsides for the two armies if you want to run a mass of Tyranids ahead of a wall of Guard tanks or whatever other permutation you desire. Genestealer Cult are going to be so darned good for Tyranids!

@gorgon Genestealer Cult are currently Allies of Convenience with Tyranids.

Fair enough. Swarm in the front, business in the back.

Caederes wrote:

 kronk wrote:
IF they can be Battle Bros with each other (GSC and Tyranids).

Common, GW. Don't wuss out! Throw a gaunt a bone!

It ain't even necessary, Allies of Convenience has no real downsides for the two armies if you want to run a mass of Tyranids ahead of a wall of Guard tanks or whatever other permutation you desire. Genestealer Cult are going to be so darned good for Tyranids!

@gorgon Genestealer Cult are currently Allies of Convenience with Tyranids.

Yeah, I'm just not expecting anything better than that like some are. And I wouldn't be shocked if it got worse with the codex.

 kronk wrote:
Fair enough. Swarm in the front, business in the back.

lol This made me actually chuckle.

 kronk wrote:
Fair enough. Swarm in the front, business in the back.

Ahhhh yes, the Hive Fleet Mullet formation.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Ambience 327 wrote:
Could we maybe wait and see exactly how things work? The last time we saw true looted vehicles in 40K, they had a special rule that made them less reliable than their IG counterparts. Perhaps these liberated vehicles will be similarly hampered?

That was for Orks. GSCs aren't Orks, are they?

No, but that wasn't my point. My point was, just because they are getting access to some Guard stuff, doesn't invalidate Guard. The vehicles could be worse, and they certainly won't benefit from Tank Commanders and Orders and the like, nor will they be Battle Brothers with Armies of the Imperium, so there is still a place for the Astra Militarum.

 Kanluwen wrote:

And if you don't like something they have access to, don't use it, or convert/scratchbuild a PDF-based equivalent. Who says your "Leman Russ" has to be an actual "Leman Russ" instead of a locally produced heavy battle tank or even a "Ghosar Quintus Pattern Heavy Hauler retrofitted with a battle cannon"

Look at the picture. That's a Leman Russ with a hull mounted Multi-Melta.

Oh yes, that is definitely a Leman Russ model, but I'm saying you don't have to use a Leman Russ if you don't think they should have one. Leave it out, or use something more appropriate in your eyes. Forge your own narrative.


And for all those who continue to dog on the illustrious cult limo, I have to say my peace. The limo makes sense to me. While the Cult is in hiding, high ranking members may need to travel around in relative anonymity and safety - an armoured civilian transport can be rather useful for such purposes. The 40K universe is a rather dangerous place, so having a few guns mounted on such a vehicle would likely be a common occurrance. When the Cult is unmasked or chooses to reveal itself, they would want to press every asset they have into service For the Father! Thus, if they already have a civilian vehicle that has been armoured and armed, why wouldn't they use it in battle?

That bit of fluff posted last page ha me giggling a bit. Looks like the GSC on Ghosar didn't get wiped. Or its slightly before that. Either way, this is awesome.

 Carnikang wrote:
That bit of fluff posted last page ha me giggling a bit. Looks like the GSC on Ghosar didn't get wiped. Or its slightly before that. Either way, this is awesome.

Yup. And it looks like I need to buy some containers for my cult to travel in

Leman Russ tanks are terrible in guard atm, and will be terrible in GSC due to their basic rules. I don't see why it matters that much.

The actual issue is GW consistently thinking that absolutely atrocious units have an actual game purpose. (Entire Ork codex)

Red Corsair wrote:Its pretty smart of GW honestly. If all the guard vehicles, or most at least, are useful to the GSC then all they need to do is sell a few infantry and character kits and put vehicle crew on those sprues. Done and done. It make a release WAY easier then if they had to flesh out a whole new line. I mean look at the cult mech and skitarii, they are neat but holy crap they have two vehicles, the chicken and the crab. They should have many more then that eventually, but look how long that takes.

Why stop there? Why not ally with Tau and CST Tau? This way Tau players can have access to psychic powers. Why not Eldar? Why not Orks or any other race? Hell you can even say Necrons would accept this since it's giving the Necrons flesh and be able to be put in sentinent bodies and have a full grown flesh Necron force in a about 100 years or so.

So basically get the person to buy a lot of kits not just kits for AM. Then maybe tha tperson would get a taste of Tau or Eldar or Ors or what ever and then start collecting them. NOw that would have been genius.

 Ambience 327 wrote:
And for all those who continue to dog on the illustrious cult limo, I have to say my peace. The limo makes sense to me. While the Cult is in hiding, high ranking members may need to travel around in relative anonymity and safety - an armoured civilian transport can be rather useful for such purposes. The 40K universe is a rather dangerous place, so having a few guns mounted on such a vehicle would likely be a common occurrance. When the Cult is unmasked or chooses to reveal itself, they would want to press every asset they have into service For the Father! Thus, if they already have a civilian vehicle that has been armoured and armed, why wouldn't they use it in battle?

It doesn't literally have to be a limo, either. Remember how the A-Team used to weld steel plates to B.A.'s van? It's like that.

 Kanluwen wrote:

fresus wrote:
Maybe they'll have access to many things, but with strong limitations on the numbers they can field.
It could be "you can only bring one looted vehicle per X units of something else".
Or the looted stuff is only part of formations, where it's only a small portion of the force.
There are ways to include some IG vehicle without stealing IG's thunder.

When was the last book you came across with a 0-1 option?

I didn't talk about a true 0-1 option, as these are indeed a rare sight nowadays.
But limitations still exist: either in the form of slots that are unlocked when taking other things (like the lone wolf in the Space wolf codex, you can only take 0-1 per troop that you buy), or again, in formations: the looted vehicles could very well be exclusive to formations that require many troops, HQ and other things to be fielded, while allowing you to take a single looted vehicle.
A single Leman Russ in a formation that clocks at 1000pts would not step on IG's toes, while allowing GSC to have some flavor and nice modeling options.

Anyway, I guess we'll have to wait for the codex to know how this will work out.

Well, if they really wanted to, they could create 'rarity' by making them 1 per slot and removing the squadron option.

Mind you, I don't think that makes much sense for a variety of reasons.

Davor wrote:

Red Corsair wrote:Its pretty smart of GW honestly. If all the guard vehicles, or most at least, are useful to the GSC then all they need to do is sell a few infantry and character kits and put vehicle crew on those sprues. Done and done. It make a release WAY easier then if they had to flesh out a whole new line. I mean look at the cult mech and skitarii, they are neat but holy crap they have two vehicles, the chicken and the crab. They should have many more then that eventually, but look how long that takes.

Why stop there? Why not ally with Tau and CST Tau? This way Tau players can have access to psychic powers. Why not Eldar? Why not Orks or any other race? Hell you can even say Necrons would accept this since it's giving the Necrons flesh and be able to be put in sentinent bodies and have a full grown flesh Necron force in a about 100 years or so.

So basically get the person to buy a lot of kits not just kits for AM. Then maybe tha tperson would get a taste of Tau or Eldar or Ors or what ever and then start collecting them. NOw that would have been genius.

Genestealer Cults have been known to arise in Ork society - usually short lived but they do happen.

Tau can and have been infected by Genestealers.

I love the abundance of birching before it's even up for advance order

 gorgon wrote:


It doesn't literally have to be a limo, either. Remember how the A-Team used to weld steel plates to B.A.'s van? It's like that.

From what I recall their shooting was about as accurate as BS2 cultists too

 Spyro_Killer wrote:
I love the abundance of birching before it's even up for advance order

To be fair the bitching is basically two people and one of which already pulled out of the thread to not dampen the mood since it's a personal gripe and not something he thinks should affect others. Overall this seems to be a very, very well received released. And judging by the lack of Overwatch GC stuff on ebay it seems to be popular beyond it too

 Spyro_Killer wrote:
I love the abundance of birching before it's even up for advance order

Welcome to the internet.

After messing around in photoshop a bit, it appears that the background image is a close-up of the black silhouetted vehicle in the bottom left, which is the same vehicle we saw teased in the video. It looks different because it's coming towards the camera from the left to the right, which is the opposite direction as seen in the video. The background grey-scale shows a dual barreled turret and then what appears to be a railing moving from the right to the top left corner of the image, similar to what is visible in the silhouette. It's possible that the kit will have two options, one that has an almost truck-like open rear section (as hinted in this new image) and one that's armoured (as visible in the video).

Can't wait to see proper images of what we are getting for this release GSC will more than likely be on my list of to get items. If not for anything more than kill team. I'd love to be able to properly ally them with my nids.

Sure the tyranids don't technically "ally" with the cult. But they do take them over.

 reds8n wrote:

 gorgon wrote:


It doesn't literally have to be a limo, either. Remember how the A-Team used to weld steel plates to B.A.'s van? It's like that.

From what I recall their shooting was about as accurate as BS2 cultists too

Well, they shot no better or worse than the other elite military force from the '80s.



The '80s were certainly the golden age of firing thousands of rounds of ammo, blowing up some conveniently-placed fuel drums, and sending the bad guys scurrying away without a casualty.

Don't forget Imperial Stormtroopers from Star Wars. They can't hit either.

Well, Obi-Wan called them precise, so perhaps they're BS2 in a universe of BS1.

I see Leman Russ

Turret looks Leman Russ but the chassis doesn't.

I eagerly await the salty goodness when the tears start flowing from those who honestly believe that GSC will ally with Tyranids in any way different than they were ruled already.