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gungo wrote:
Anyone know a good place to find a sentinel powerlifter?

eBay or China!

minionboy wrote:

 jifel wrote:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1191

So, there are some of the rules here, including the weapons summary. Is it just me or do rending claws look like they're Ap 3...? And no Im not talking about the patriarchs claws, which are listed separately.

All of that stuff came from this thread, I know that because I made those B&W images and only posted them here, haha.

And no, Rending Claws are not AP3, they're still AP5, sorry.

And amazingly, NO ONE gave you any credit for it.

 rollawaythestone wrote:

 gorgon wrote:


Agreed...and yet I don't think we'll see it happen. There are core units whose profiles haven't changed for 4 editions, even as the game has changed dramatically and firepower has, what, tripled? The Leviathan supplement -- intended to be a patch -- added some cool stuff that's okay and other stuff that was shockingly dead on arrival. I think there are too many fixes to be made, and too much reluctance in the studio to change things with any kind of legacy behind them.

Unfortunately, I think I agree. They may have some impetus to change some things, though - making Genestealers equivalent between GSC and Tyranids, for example.

I honestly think that they're going to pull Genestealers from the next Tyranid 'dex entirely. GW's motto when it comes to bad codices seems to be "if it's broke, don't fix it...."

Davor wrote:

minionboy wrote:

 jifel wrote:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1191

So, there are some of the rules here, including the weapons summary. Is it just me or do rending claws look like they're Ap 3...? And no Im not talking about the patriarchs claws, which are listed separately.

All of that stuff came from this thread, I know that because I made those B&W images and only posted them here, haha.

And no, Rending Claws are not AP3, they're still AP5, sorry.

And amazingly, NO ONE gave you any credit for it.

Eh, it's the internet. I mostly made them B&W to see where they would spread around the web. Next time I should put my logo for RUMBL or TheDiceAbide on it for the free advertising, haha. Though that seems kinda lame since the images were taken from screen shots from the BOLS video (who I did give credit for, haha).

Yes you did give them credit, I remember that. I gave you credit when I copied/pasted your pics, but I took them down since I wasn't sure if they were allowed on the site.

Just want to thank you for taking them and giving us info.

Davor wrote:
Yes you did give them credit, I remember that. I gave you credit when I copied/pasted your pics, but I took them down since I wasn't sure if they were allowed on the site.

Just want to thank you for taking them and giving us info.

Haha, no problem, I wanted to read them better myself!

Possible shenanigans here. Just want some clarification I am reading this correct.

When a unit infiltrates it CAN use cult ambush instead.

This includes deployment.

On a 6 the unit can charge the turn they arrive. I.E. first turn.

On a 5 the unit can make an out of turn shooting attack....


Does that mean the cult could shoot during deployment just before the first turn starts?

It specifies the attack is during the movement phase.

Good to know. You never know with gws poor wording.

 gorgon wrote:


Agreed...and yet I don't think we'll see it happen. There are core units whose profiles haven't changed for 4 editions, even as the game has changed dramatically and firepower has, what, tripled? The Leviathan supplement -- intended to be a patch -- added some cool stuff that's okay and other stuff that was shockingly dead on arrival. I think there are too many fixes to be made, and too much reluctance in the studio to change things with any kind of legacy behind them.

The major issue is that most of the MEQ players I play against don't see Tyranids as protagonists - we're just there to be pulped. It feels as if GW think the same way.

 Battlesong wrote:

 rollawaythestone wrote:

 gorgon wrote:


Agreed...and yet I don't think we'll see it happen. There are core units whose profiles haven't changed for 4 editions, even as the game has changed dramatically and firepower has, what, tripled? The Leviathan supplement -- intended to be a patch -- added some cool stuff that's okay and other stuff that was shockingly dead on arrival. I think there are too many fixes to be made, and too much reluctance in the studio to change things with any kind of legacy behind them.

Unfortunately, I think I agree. They may have some impetus to change some things, though - making Genestealers equivalent between GSC and Tyranids, for example.

I honestly think that they're going to pull Genestealers from the next Tyranid 'dex entirely. GW's motto when it comes to bad codices seems to be "if it's broke, don't fix it...."

I agree, its not nearly as extreme as when Daemons got their own codex. I think it'll be interesting to see a Tyranid codex written more around choosing between only warrior and gaunts... or boring if GW is neglectful and only omits genestealers without any thematic change to the codex.

 minionboy wrote:

gungo wrote:
Anyone know a good place to find a sentinel powerlifter?

eBay or China!

Aren't they the same thing?

zamerion wrote:




:( :(

MFW Stormblade
GG

I'd love the look of the Death Watch marines that run into a fething Stormblade.

"Oh, you've got to be kidding me! I didn't sign up with the Inquisition for this!".

Gotta say, the cult has really brought me back to the fold of 40k. Haven't touched 40k stuff in years, but this all looks good. Wish there was a legit 'Limo' kit for them, but I'll buy that really nice 'Genetic cult' one from Wargame exclusive instead. I love all the hybrid variants, and the usage of IG stuff as usual. I have an old Stormblade I had meant to use with my Lost and the Damned army way back when (you could reboot them too GW! hint, hint), which will now be offered to the cult.

As I look through all the stuff they're releasing, I can't help but feel they're missing (aside from the limo) some kind of MASSIVE genestealer creature. I realize we have the patriarch and the Broodlord, but, I'm thinking even BIGGER!
Yes I realize I can just ally with the nids and get a huge ol beastie there, but, it's not the same.

Oh well, still pumped!

 skullking wrote:
My Lost and the Damned army way back when...you could reboot them too GW! hint, hint!

They're in Imperial Armor and they're awesome.

the_scotsman wrote:
It specifies the attack is during the movement phase.

no it states you can immediately make a bonus shooting attack, nowhere does it say movement phase

 skullking wrote:


As I look through all the stuff they're releasing, I can't help but feel they're missing (aside from the limo) some kind of MASSIVE genestealer creature. I realize we have the patriarch and the Broodlord, but, I'm thinking even BIGGER!
Yes I realize I can just ally with the nids and get a huge ol beastie there, but, it's not the same.

Oh well, still pumped!

Assuming that isn't some Brass Eye level surrealist sarcasm: No! Bad! Bad wargamer! Where's my rolled up newspaper?

The best thing about this release is GW managed to restrain themselves from sharting out some grotesque, ludicrous, oversized, cartoonish, barely-thematic atrocity of a Monstrous/Gargantuan Creature/giant bipedal walker.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 skullking wrote:


As I look through all the stuff they're releasing, I can't help but feel they're missing (aside from the limo) some kind of MASSIVE genestealer creature. I realize we have the patriarch and the Broodlord, but, I'm thinking even BIGGER!
Yes I realize I can just ally with the nids and get a huge ol beastie there, but, it's not the same.

Oh well, still pumped!

Assuming that isn't some Brass Eye level surrealist sarcasm: No! Bad! Bad wargamer! Where's my rolled up newspaper?

The best thing about this release is GW managed to restrain themselves from sharting out some grotesque, ludicrous, oversized, cartoonish, barely-thematic atrocity of a Monstrous/Gargantuan Creature/giant bipedal walker.

But doesn't not having that automatically put them in the hole against the factions that DO have it? And therein is the problem, when you let some people have some barely-thematic giant thing that also is generally super powerful, anyone who doesn't get one is at a grave disadvantage.

I've been working on a Battlescribe list for stealer cults, and from the info in this thread I've been able to put most of it together. I'd like to get it ready to devise some lists this weekend, but won't get my codex until tomorrow.

Does anyone know if any photos of the Neophyte, Metamorph or Leman Russ pages have been linked anywhere?

WayneTheGame wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 skullking wrote:


As I look through all the stuff they're releasing, I can't help but feel they're missing (aside from the limo) some kind of MASSIVE genestealer creature. I realize we have the patriarch and the Broodlord, but, I'm thinking even BIGGER!
Yes I realize I can just ally with the nids and get a huge ol beastie there, but, it's not the same.

Oh well, still pumped!

Assuming that isn't some Brass Eye level surrealist sarcasm: No! Bad! Bad wargamer! Where's my rolled up newspaper?

The best thing about this release is GW managed to restrain themselves from sharting out some grotesque, ludicrous, oversized, cartoonish, barely-thematic atrocity of a Monstrous/Gargantuan Creature/giant bipedal walker.

But doesn't not having that automatically put them in the hole against the factions that DO have it? And therein is the problem, when you let some people have some barely-thematic giant thing that also is generally super powerful, anyone who doesn't get one is at a grave disadvantage.

No. Nearly the entire force has rending or some other form of AP3 or AP2 weapons. 20 acoylytes with no upgrades are only 1/2 the cost of a wraithknight, and can (will) pop up and likely kill it before it can use its stomps. Purestrains can handle an imperial knight before it even gets to swing it's mega chainsword.

The only thing i see that inherently would be hard to kill for this army is flyers and swooping FMCs. But the same can be said for many ground-based "deathstars" in 40K in other armies as well. Plus we have the option to ally in a flying hive tyrant for the low tax of 1 mucolid (which can also do a s8 ap3 hit on flyers, so not even really a waste).

edit - the largest disadvantage i see to collecting this army is the sheer volume of models it will take to purchase and field. Anybody who got multiple sets of overkill has a nice head start, but buying metamorphs and acolytes for $8 apiece retail (5/$40 USD) will add up quickly.

WayneTheGame wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 skullking wrote:


As I look through all the stuff they're releasing, I can't help but feel they're missing (aside from the limo) some kind of MASSIVE genestealer creature. I realize we have the patriarch and the Broodlord, but, I'm thinking even BIGGER!
Yes I realize I can just ally with the nids and get a huge ol beastie there, but, it's not the same.

Oh well, still pumped!

Assuming that isn't some Brass Eye level surrealist sarcasm: No! Bad! Bad wargamer! Where's my rolled up newspaper?

The best thing about this release is GW managed to restrain themselves from sharting out some grotesque, ludicrous, oversized, cartoonish, barely-thematic atrocity of a Monstrous/Gargantuan Creature/giant bipedal walker.

But doesn't not having that automatically put them in the hole against the factions that DO have it? And therein is the problem, when you let some people have some barely-thematic giant thing that also is generally super powerful, anyone who doesn't get one is at a grave disadvantage.

Considering that the basic 40-point groobly squad puts out 1.66 auto-wounds against anything at AP2, and you can have LOTS of those charging unexpectedly at any MC, I doubt they'll have too much of an advatnage.

Note to self, if ever investigating WayneTheGame for possible cult activity, look for the blatantly obvious gigantic dead giveaway monstrosity, as his definition of secret cult is not the same as everyone else's.

So, is this weeks Cadian/Neophyte kit just going to be a box of Shock Troops and an upgrade sprue (the one with mostly heads and symbols)?

It's been a long time (few years) since I've played 40k. Last rulebook I read was probably 2 editions ago. Is 1850 pts still the norm?

I'm starting off my army with 1 box of Deathwatch Overkill. Theme wise I'd like to stick to more of the genestealer side than the imperium (tanks) side, though I do plan to get 1 or 2 of the new trucks. I have like 30 genestealers, so I plan to have at least 1 or 2 units of them running around.

So.. anyone that's read/analyzed the new rules.. what else should I consider adding to get a nicely balanced list?

Marshal86 wrote:
So, is this weeks Cadian/Neophyte kit just going to be a box of Shock Troops and an upgrade sprue (the one with mostly heads and symbols)?

Yeah it's a 10-man squad, 1 heavy weapons team and an upgrade sprue.

Next week it's:

* 10-man squad / Chimera / upgrade sprue.
* Leman Russ / upgrade sprue.

Horde mode. Get tons of acolytes. Neophytes are good too.

Hey - joining just because I've been lurking for weeks catching up on the Cult news/leaks, and now my codex has arrived early - so "giving something back"!

Any questions - ask. No scans/photos though just in case copyright (especially as it's not officially out until tomorrow)

I ready to see some Cultist Commisar conversions.

 EnTyme wrote:
I ready to see some Cultist Commisar conversions.