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Hello,

I was wondering about how hard it is to control human population in hive world and it struck me. Tau are naive, idealistic race with very little understanding of psychic capabilities. For the Tau, warp and chaos are just stories meant to frighted children. They have no idea of who the warp is and how damn lucky they are not to know it. But this raises the question, Tau is EXACTLY like humanity before. Over eager, headstrong, ambitious. They refused to stop and reflect after Demacles crusade and thus they over expanded, spreading their limited resources way too thin. They are Germans of WW2. Geared perfectly for skirmishes, short wars, not total ones. Isn't this a perfect opportunity then Tau is distracted by Tau's ever increasing involvement in dealing with Ork Waagghh and soon - Tyranids hive fleets that their little human helpers decide that they just had enough of that selfless sacrifice? If human population as you know is not brutally surpressed, rogue psykers will soon run free and very often, this on its own is enough to take control of entire planets just by the efforts of several individuals. This is ignoring risks that literally, gates of hell can now open on Tau core worlds and massive armies emerge at their very doorsteps.

Ignoring massive fluff armor that Tau receives, is there anything in lore which deals with this issue? Is Tau doomed to fall into unimportance as so many races before and then to be destroyed by a random threat?

Btw:
And then you think, this is just one existential threat to these punny aliens. Lets wait until they realize that their drones are irrational and they do not perceive Greater Good in the right way. That is going to be fun

Everybody is doomed.
Even chaos itself....

They won't have time. The End Times is just around the corner and truth be told the Tau aren't important enough to the overall narrative imho to get such a send off, just as Brettonians. My Guess will be when the end times comes around the Tau Empire will be wiped out off screen by the likes of Orks or Tyranids and the only Tau in the narrative will be 1 or 2 armies lead by known characters that are actually important.

*source* Parallels between Tau and Brettonians.

 1hadhq wrote:
Everybody is doomed.
Even chaos itself....

Did you read the Horus Heresy? Alpharius/Omegon more or less ensure that Chaos isn't doomed. Neither is humanity. Unless the 'Nids eat them both. Of course, the Necrons could always rise up to defend against the 'Nid threat. It is their galaxy after all. Or wait... doesn't the galaxy belong to the ancient Eldar? I can't remember. I guess the Eldar should nurture a nascent race and accelerate their culture and development to help protect things. Unless, of course, the Eldar like to party. Then they'll just want to watch the world burn. Sort of like the Orks. Man, burning worlds are great for roasting squigs, don't you think. What was the original question? Chaos? You mean the pointy 'oomies? Oy. Pass sum a dat squig meat. Pointy 'oomie helmets make good eatin' bowls.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
They won't have time. The End Times is just around the corner and truth be told the Tau aren't important enough to the overall narrative imho to get such a send off, just as Brettonians. My Guess will be when the end times comes around the Tau Empire will be wiped out off screen by the likes of Orks or Tyranids and the only Tau in the narrative will be 1 or 2 armies lead by known characters that are actually important.

*source* Parallels between Tau and Brettonians.

Unfortunately, I can see this happening.

While I agree from a fluff perspective, GW has invested WAAAAAAAAAYYY more into Tau than they ever did for the Brets. If they do a 40K end times, you bet you @$$ Tau will live through it. Tau is a rather large line of miniature and arguably 40Ks most futuristic, which adds to 40K's identity.

At worst, Tau will get rolled into another army, likely the Eldar

Fluffwise, the Eldar or Imperials could easily see Tau as a weapon against Chaos. In fact, it is speculated that this is the reason why Eldrad created the Tau in the first place.
You read that right. Eldrad created the Warp Storm that protected the Tau core worlds from exterminatus and allowed their civilization to thrive into its current form. It is even likely that some Eldar visited the Tau to instruct the original Ethereals.
If the End times comes around, I predict GW to roll Tau into Eldar for this reason

 Kriswall wrote:

I guess the Eldar should nurture a nascent race and accelerate their culture and development to help protect things..

Bingo.

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 Ernestas wrote:
Hello,

I was wondering about how hard it is to control human population in hive world and it struck me. Tau are naive, idealistic race with very little understanding of psychic capabilities. For the Tau, warp and chaos are just stories meant to frighted children. They have no idea of who the warp is and how damn lucky they are not to know it. But this raises the question, Tau is EXACTLY like humanity before. Over eager, headstrong, ambitious. They refused to stop and reflect after Demacles crusade and thus they over expanded, spreading their limited resources way too thin. They are Germans of WW2. Geared perfectly for skirmishes, short wars, not total ones. Isn't this a perfect opportunity then Tau is distracted by Tau's ever increasing involvement in dealing with Ork Waagghh and soon - Tyranids hive fleets that their little human helpers decide that they just had enough of that selfless sacrifice? If human population as you know is not brutally surpressed, rogue psykers will soon run free and very often, this on its own is enough to take control of entire planets just by the efforts of several individuals. This is ignoring risks that literally, gates of hell can now open on Tau core worlds and massive armies emerge at their very doorsteps.

Ignoring massive fluff armor that Tau receives, is there anything in lore which deals with this issue? Is Tau doomed to fall into unimportance as so many races before and then to be destroyed by a random threat?

Btw:
And then you think, this is just one existential threat to these punny aliens. Lets wait until they realize that their drones are irrational and they do not perceive Greater Good in the right way. That is going to be fun

As far as playing nice with puny 'umies.. they may or may not be chemically castrating humans, and so they don't have successive generations. They discovered a supervirus in the farsight enclaves that destroyed a minor hive fleet over a few hours, and don't register strong enough in the warp for chaos to really consider them worth their time.

Orks though, that dirty fungus, they might be able to do it.

Do we have a source on Eldrad making the Tau or is this another fan theory?

 Galef wrote:
While I agree from a fluff perspective, GW has invested WAAAAAAAAAYYY more into Tau than they ever did for the Brets. If they do a 40K end times, you bet you @$$ Tau will live through it. Tau is a rather large line of miniature and arguably 40Ks most futuristic, which adds to 40K's identity.

At worst, Tau will get rolled into another army, likely the Eldar

Fluffwise, the Eldar or Imperials could easily see Tau as a weapon against Chaos. In fact, it is speculated that this is the reason why Eldrad created the Tau in the first place.
You read that right. Eldrad created the Warp Storm that protected the Tau core worlds from exterminatus and allowed their civilization to thrive into its current form. It is even likely that some Eldar visited the Tau to instruct the original Ethereals.
If the End times comes around, I predict GW to roll Tau into Eldar for this reason
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I've always been of the opinion that is was the Harlequins that engineered the Tau, not the Craftworld Eldar. When Eldrad says ''I have followed the myriad potential futures of the Tau with great interest. Though barely even striplings compared to us, I feel a strange protectiveness towards them. In time I believe they will exceed even our greatest feats and master the darkness within their souls'' the use of the word strange supports the idea that while the Tau society is pleasing to him, he doesn't know why he feels that way. And every quote about the ''Lithe'' figures ''Capering'' in the mountains and the strange lights when the Etherals first arrived could just as easily be attributed to Harlequins as Eldar. The novel Fire Warrior expands on this to include the words ''In brightly coloured garb'', imho further alluding to Harlequins. Not to mention the logistics of it, with Ulthwe being situated near the Eye of Terror and Tau homeworlds being a universe away and there are obviously no large webway corridors into Tau homeworlds otherwise the Dark Eldar would've gutted them an age ago. This suggests that any Eldar activity must use small, possibly hidden webway gates, best known by the Harlequins. Sorry it's a bit off topic but to me it makes more sense for the Harlequins, masters of the webway lead by a God who is a psychic echo of the Deceiver (fanhammer for another time ) to create the Tau then Eldrad.

anyhow, do you remember how the first disrespectful blow against the Brettonians was done? The Fey Enchantress, figure head of the Brettonian religion and society, was captured and assassinated. Does that ring any bells with say...Aun'Va? And let's not make assumptions based on GW business practices, GW released a large and expensive model collection to go along with the End Times then swept it away under the rug. Another parallel, the reason GW killed the Brettonian line is rumoured to be because they couldn't copyright Medieval Knights. Would you not agree that Gun-damesque robo suits might share a similar level of generalism?

I'm hopeful, but as soon as I spotted the first parallel between Tau and Brettonians more of them kept popping up. I have no doubt Tau would survive in some fashion, but if it's in the fashion they currently are may be the question at hand.

**Sources for Eldar-Tau relationship** Xenology, various quotes about Lights in the Mountains and figures in the mist when alluding to the night Etherals arrived (Might not be in current codex, but in all previous ones that I know of) and the Fire Warrior novel. Nothing recent, but nothing to say otherwise.

pm713 wrote:
Do we have a source on Eldrad making the Tau or is this another fan theory?

Honestly, I have heard that for years, but couldn't tell you if it is old fluff or fan theory. In either case it's either been retconned to let Tau stand on there own, or was never canon in the first place.
It's the most logical place to take Tau if the End times ever comes though.

Edit:
the closest fluff hint I can find is in an old Xenology book from 3rd ed. It says that a "tall, pointy eared" race harvested pheromone glands from an incestoid race that used it to control there population. It further says that Ethereals may use a similar method of pheromone control to command the Tau.

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 Ernestas wrote:
If human population as you know is not brutally surpressed, rogue psykers will soon run free and very often, this on its own is enough to take control of entire planets just by the efforts of several individuals.

Humans in the Tau Empire have very little, if any power. They are well-treated slaves, but they are still slaves. Rogue psykers would have no hope at all of taking control of a planet because none of the people with the power are going to listen to them.

And then you think, this is just one existential threat to these punny aliens. Lets wait until they realize that their drones are irrational and they do not perceive Greater Good in the right way. That is going to be fun

Drones are not sentient in the sense that they are capable of independent thought and understanding abstract philosophical concepts like the greater good. They are much closer to being a particularly sophisticated missile guidance computer than to any human or Tau mind. If they are programmed to do a thing then they will do exactly that, without question.

Indeed. The whole 'Iron Men' thing happened not because of AI existing - the Imperium has AI today, technically - albeit a lot of it is lobotomised brain-based - in the form of servo-skulls, land raider/titan machine spirits, tarantula sentry guns, etc, etc.

What triggered off the Iron Men wars was Artificial Sentience - the genuine "I am as smart and self-aware as you" skynet/johhny 5/I, robot type AI.

Up until the last codex I'd have agreed that the Tau Empire isn't at yet.

But the random shoehorning in of the engram chip that essentially allows a complete copy of Puretide's personality to survive, plus the - I think it's a farsight enclave pilot, one of the eight (The broadside, Oblotai) who is also just an empty suit motivated by an artificial mind, means they must be close if not there now.

Yeah, Drones are basicly flying Tarantulas. They are still filthy Xenos.

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Humans in the Tau Empire have very little, if any power. They are well-treated slaves, but they are still slaves. Rogue psykers would have no hope at all of taking control of a planet because none of the people with the power are going to listen to them.

Well, thank you for answers. I'm a busy man and sometimes I do not have time to answer it. I took up swording classes recently, now I fancy myself to be second Lucius, Slaneesh bless his name. All the other students, veterans or freshmen are just pitiful imitators compared to that I'm going to be! Muahahaha!


As SomeRandomEvilGuy said, human psykers tend not to listen to that others might want. They do not need power, humans do in fact have some meaningless power to create illusion of freedom. They are placed in running bodies of Tau organizations and rarely are allowed to higher ups for propaganda purposes. They are in perfect position to create massive rebellions since nobody suspects them. Everybody is ignorant of that chaos is. Tau looks to human religion as we do now. Just some evolutionary superstition to help individual survive and feel good thus they allow freedom of religion. Those naive fools...
In Tau core world I could simply establish officially cult of Khorne, Cult of Nurgle, Cult of Slaneesh, Cult of Tzeentch and gather my followers. Do all the dark rituals officially and nobody will stop me. Why? Because it is all superstition and just harmless prayers and meditations. Tzeentch cults in particularly could gather all the species who are worth something (species with actual souls) and make them commit into massive conspiracy against the Tau leadership. Tau brainwashes people, yes, but Chaos influence requires far more than brainwhashing and elimination of trouble makers. Chaos first of all is insidious. Once it infects, it is impossible to detect or to eradicate. There is always something somewhere. Even Holy Terra has its own heretics and must stand vigilant. Same is here, there are so many threats. Nurgle worshippers have all but to ask and magickal super viruses appear in their bodies from nowhere. Often, as patient zero they are immune and perfectly healthy carriers too since Grandfather Nurgle loves all its worshippers very much and tries to help them in every way he can! Thousands diseases start spreading and infecting others. Every God starts in subtle way and then you discover its influence, it is woefully too late...

Even if Tau individuals are nearly worthless they still have worlds to despoil. Demons will still be attracted to have one domain for themselves in real space if it is possible and if Tau would stop having preferential treatment, with new lore their civilization will just collapse under million threats, same as humanity did in dark age of technology.



On another note, helping young race to mature is pointless. It is too small and too vurnarble and it would take too much time. This is why Eldar is going to extinct, they are too self centered, too fragmented still. They lack common goal and they lack unity that humanity has. Eldar has this foolish notion of independance. Truly, such stupidity should be punished...

Gonna agree the Tau are, on an OOC very differant from Bretonia. Bretonia wasn't WFB's Tau. they where more like their sisters of battle

pm713 wrote:
Do we have a source on Eldrad making the Tau or is this another fan theory?

Xenology. The Eldar created the Tau. Then they created the Ethereals via genetically altering Tau with dna from a mind slaved insectoid race on the exact opposite side of the galaxy.

The insectoid race then went to war with the Eldar for stealing one of their baby queens. This is how the Ethereals mind control lesser Tau.

Be mindful that this book also shows Tau as having toes and nhot "hooves" despite toes actually being certain forms of hooves in the animal kingdom (see elephant, rhino, zebra ect there is an example in my image gallery as a reference for this old argument).


To the OP...

Genestealer Cults have infiltrated the Earth Caste. It's in the new GSC codex. So yes. The trojan horse is the way the Tau will fall.

Can you point out exact book to me? I assume it is gene stealer codex, but I never heard about one being an official one. Should I look in most recent tyranid codex for that?

 Ernestas wrote:
Can you point out exact book to me? I assume it is gene stealer codex, but I never heard about one being an official one. Should I look in most recent tyranid codex for that?

Genestealer cult just got their own codex last week. I assume that's what he means by new codex.

What a balanced thread on the Tau which doesn't literally begin by presupposing the answer it is looking for. Its almost like the OP simply stated in their very first post, which was nominally a question, that in there opinion the 'punny aliens' are bound for certain destruction.

Almost makes one wonder why Games Workshop develops them as a faction, releases new units, fluff and expands them if they are apparently so certainly doomed.

Amazing how the Tau haven't died already what with the psychic Nicassar being the second member species of the Empire on all. But clearly one fluff-note in the Genestealer Codex means the entire faction is done, that is exactly how story telling works in Warhammer 40k.


EDIT: No, but honestly, I should stop, the bias against Tau (or anything that isn't the Imperium really) gets too much for me, I can only handle it in small doses

Well, every faction which is considered ''good'' is fethed. Imperium itself should by all fairness fall in this black crusade. I hate Tau simply because they have such massive fluff armor that it is hard to believe. Imperium employs 4 assassins? Almost all of them fail, making mockery of their entire reputation! Orks entangling Tau into war of attrition? They will kill off the warboss and they will win the day! Extremely difficult things made easy. Tyranids are coming to nom nom the system? I bet that writers will pull off some bs maneuver that will destroy all of them.

All I want are for those animals (yes, animals. You cannot murder someone who has no real soul thus Tau are at the level of an animal) are some hardship. I want to see their civilization in ruin as humanity had and has to suffer every day. I want every hole in their society to be exploited from rogue psykers taking over planets and sectors to machine uprisings to external threats to which Tau are helpless to respond. W40k universe is not about hope and progress. There is very real dangers with it and Imperium is actually wise in its current politics. I simply want those aliens to taste the fruits of their reckless behavior for once in their life!

In other words you want the faction destroyed.

Yeah, as I said, you aren't looking for an answer, you have an answer you want and are looking for it to be validated by whatever you find, even if all you find is a small fluff blurb in the Genestealer Cult book.

EDIT: Also, seriously, seriously *smashes my own head* how, in what way...do you know how many Waaaghs!!! and Hive Fleets the Imperium has defeated? If defeating Orks and Tyranids qualifies you for 'plot armour' then the Imperium's plot armour nearly defies comprehension.

What do you want the writers to do? Squat the faction? You know there are people who like playing Tau, buy their miniatures and have fun with them right?

And the assassins, the assassins! Come on! What did you think was going to happen? That all three special characters of the Tau Empire who are important to the narrative would die? Be happy they at least killed Aun'va, the executive leader of the entire faction, when was the last time a Chapter Master with a Miniature was killed off?

Also I seriously...the complete...ergh...on the one hand you have people stating 'numerous worlds within the Imperium are perfectly fine and sophisticated lovely places to live' and then on the other hand you have something like this, where you say; "I want to see their civilization in ruin as humanity had and has to suffer every day." First of all, so your motivation is just spite? Secondly, the Imperium is all ruins?

But of course we boil down to the same point at the end; "the Imperium is wise, its fine, its got no real plot armour, its cool, its the mould all other factions must fit into or else,".

This sort of behaviour, this verbiage, animals, and such is exactly what worries me most.

I really shouldn't have done this though. I just can't, ugh.

Anyway we clearly have nothing more to discuss and I doubt this will be a very productive or rational discussion so I'll save us the trouble and say cheers so long.

 Peregrine wrote:
Humans in the Tau Empire have very little, if any power. They are well-treated slaves, but they are still slaves. Rogue psykers would have no hope at all of taking control of a planet because none of the people with the power are going to listen to them.

Although that is true of every member of the tau empire, save the etherials. There is no free will, you are born into your caste, and are put into whatever job best suits you and is best for the empire as a whole. You can advance within your own caste, but you can never rule. If you are good enough, you can advise, but that's it. All of the tau, are well treated salves. It's just that it's willing slavery, which makes it a bit weird.

Honestly, the best comparison I can find is the serf system. It's slavery, just not chattel slavery.


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locarno24 wrote:
Indeed. The whole 'Iron Men' thing happened not because of AI existing - the Imperium has AI today, technically - albeit a lot of it is lobotomised brain-based - in the form of servo-skulls, land raider/titan machine spirits, tarantula sentry guns, etc, etc.

What triggered off the Iron Men wars was Artificial Sentience - the genuine "I am as smart and self-aware as you" skynet/johhny 5/I, robot type AI.

Up until the last codex I'd have agreed that the Tau Empire isn't at yet.

But the random shoehorning in of the engram chip that essentially allows a complete copy of Puretide's personality to survive, plus the - I think it's a farsight enclave pilot, one of the eight (The broadside, Oblotai) who is also just an empty suit motivated by an artificial mind, means they must be close if not there now.

They can copy a mind, but the question is, can they create a new one? Coping a mind must surely be easier than making fully-sentient AI from scratch.

The Tau are at a crossroads

They are becoming embroiled in Total War against the Imperium of Man, at the same time Necrons, Dark Eldar and Tyranids are also attacking them.

Genestealer Cults have begun to be found and even if the Tau culture is resistant to them - they have other races living within their borders, Chaos Cults which will likely arise in the human colonies

The Farsight Enclave is becoming more self confident and powerful and if not for the growing war - civil war might be on the offing,

The formost hero of the Tau, Shadowsun has experienced ineptidue, arrogance and foolishness by her Etherial masters and does not like it.

pawa24 wrote:

 Ernestas wrote:
Can you point out exact book to me? I assume it is gene stealer codex, but I never heard about one being an official one. Should I look in most recent tyranid codex for that?

Genestealer cult just got their own codex last week. I assume that's what he means by new codex.

I could not find anything in 7'th genestealer codex about Tau... Nice artwork though!

 Ernestas wrote:

pawa24 wrote:

 Ernestas wrote:
Can you point out exact book to me? I assume it is gene stealer codex, but I never heard about one being an official one. Should I look in most recent tyranid codex for that?

Genestealer cult just got their own codex last week. I assume that's what he means by new codex.

I could not find anything in 7'th genestealer codex about Tau... Nice artwork though!

Its in the section on the Hidden Dynasties - titlted - "The Greater Good Corrupted" page 40

page 32 also shows a cult in combat in the ruins of a Tau settlement

 Anemone wrote:
In other words you want the faction destroyed.

Yeah, as I said, you aren't looking for an answer, you have an answer you want and are looking for it to be validated by whatever you find, even if all you find is a small fluff blurb in the Genestealer Cult book.

EDIT: Also, seriously, seriously *smashes my own head* how, in what way...do you know how many Waaaghs!!! and Hive Fleets the Imperium has defeated? If defeating Orks and Tyranids qualifies you for 'plot armour' then the Imperium's plot armour nearly defies comprehension.

What do you want the writers to do? Squat the faction? You know there are people who like playing Tau, buy their miniatures and have fun with them right?

And the assassins, the assassins! Come on! What did you think was going to happen? That all three special characters of the Tau Empire who are important to the narrative would die? Be happy they at least killed Aun'va, the executive leader of the entire faction, when was the last time a Chapter Master with a Miniature was killed off?

Also I seriously...the complete...ergh...on the one hand you have people stating 'numerous worlds within the Imperium are perfectly fine and sophisticated lovely places to live' and then on the other hand you have something like this, where you say; "I want to see their civilization in ruin as humanity had and has to suffer every day." First of all, so your motivation is just spite? Secondly, the Imperium is all ruins?

But of course we boil down to the same point at the end; "the Imperium is wise, its fine, its got no real plot armour, its cool, its the mould all other factions must fit into or else,".

This sort of behaviour, this verbiage, animals, and such is exactly what worries me most.

I really shouldn't have done this though. I just can't, ugh.

Anyway we clearly have nothing more to discuss and I doubt this will be a very productive or rational discussion so I'll save us the trouble and say cheers so long.

No, I want them to enter dark age of technology, not to be destroyed. They are young and foolish and it is time to taste that w40k is all about.

Yes, I wanted more of them to die. Writers made a poor choice in involving this organization. With them failing misreably to assasinate single Abbadon's champion and in addition of failing so terrificly with lesser xenos species too, I come to question their reputation. You simply cannot on one hand write how deadly and dangerous they are and on the other make them fail in everything they do.

Having world destroyed and coming out just barely victorious is an empty victory. In the lore it is often like that. Imperium holds just barely and only with incoming reinforcements and great sacrifices. Sometimes, the premise of the story is already aftermath of a great defeat like entire systems going silent or Imperium marching into the trap. Like with Crimson slaughter for example. It is almost always you are coming late into the party and from that point there is only damage control to do.

Yes, Imperium have too warp snorting writers writing about knights in demon worlds killing greater demons left and right, but these are merely legends. A propoganda pieces and nobody should take it seriously. With Tau I already know that they are ought to be shitted upon. I do not need to pretend not to know it, because it is natural conclusion of anyone well familiar with the universe. I'm just afraid that writers will push wrong narrative of them being awesome and prosperous then entire galaxy descents into full out collapse.


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 Mr Morden wrote:

 Ernestas wrote:

pawa24 wrote:

 Ernestas wrote:
Can you point out exact book to me? I assume it is gene stealer codex, but I never heard about one being an official one. Should I look in most recent tyranid codex for that?

Genestealer cult just got their own codex last week. I assume that's what he means by new codex.

I could not find anything in 7'th genestealer codex about Tau... Nice artwork though!

Its in the section on the Hidden Dynasties - titlted - "The Greater Good Corrupted" page 40

page 32 also shows a cult in combat in the ruins of a Tau settlement

Thank you. I can see battle in Tau city, but I cannot find it on pages you said or that article at all. Must have wrong codex or something.

Thank you. I can see battle in Tau city, but I cannot find it on pages you said or that article at all. Must have wrong codex or something.

page 37 should have Armoured vehicles?" next page is "Hidden Dynasties", the third page of that section has "The Greater Good Corrupted".

The same section also has: A genestealer Cult that falls into the Warp and who become servants of Nurgle, Ork Cult and a cult on a Eldar Maiden World.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
They won't have time. The End Times is just around the corner and truth be told the Tau aren't important enough to the overall narrative imho to get such a send off, just as Brettonians. My Guess will be when the end times comes around the Tau Empire will be wiped out off screen by the likes of Orks or Tyranids and the only Tau in the narrative will be 1 or 2 armies lead by known characters that are actually important.

*source* Parallels between Tau and Brettonians.

Except the Tau are now the 5th most popular race and gunning for the Orks 4th. At the rapid rate of Tau players they are quite quickly become one of the core factions to define 40k and Xenos. I'm kind of proud of Tau players really. This gives them massive plot power since they sell so well. If the Tau do go out, it will be in style. I doubt they will though. I personally think the Tau will survive. That's their schtick. Recent Tau lore leads me to believe they will be discovering warp drives or their own style of FTL drives that will enable them to expand even more rapidly.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
anyhow, do you remember how the first disrespectful blow against the Brettonians was done? The Fey Enchantress, figure head of the Brettonian religion and society, was captured and assassinated. Does that ring any bells with say...Aun'Va? And let's not make assumptions based on GW business practices, GW released a large and expensive model collection to go along with the End Times then swept it away under the rug. Another parallel, the reason GW killed the Brettonian line is rumoured to be because they couldn't copyright Medieval Knights. Would you not agree that Gun-damesque robo suits might share a similar level of generalism?

Every model they released for end times is still usable...Indeed apart from TK and Bretonnia(whose models are old as hell and weren't generating much profit therefore anyway) no lines were pulled from sale.

Sorry but Tau isn't in any danger of getting removed. They keep releasing new releases for them. That's not what you do if you plan to get rid of them soon.