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I'm excited. Read the whole thread, including the knuckle-dragging and chest-beating bits.
I think that GW will be true to form: Boxed game followed by a release.
The box will probably be sisters vs demons. Execution force has the cultists, and they aren't likely to step on those toes. Demons make sense, particularly with Thousand Sons being released before.
Ultimately, I see Sisters being a smaller release than Genestealers. more along the lines of Deathwatch because the vehicles get reused.
2 Infantry boxes make sense... Battle Sisters, Dominions, etc in one box. Veterans in another box (Celestians, etc)
Who knows what will be in on the rumored 50 mm bases.
They already have a plastic Immolator Sprue... not sure what needs to be done there.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
No.

Oh sorry I guess it was -DE-.

 Anpu-adom wrote:
I'm excited. Read the whole thread, including the knuckle-dragging and chest-beating bits.
I think that GW will be true to form: Boxed game followed by a release.
The box will probably be sisters vs demons. Execution force has the cultists, and they aren't likely to step on those toes. Demons make sense, particularly with Thousand Sons being released before.
Ultimately, I see Sisters being a smaller release than Genestealers. more along the lines of Deathwatch because the vehicles get reused.
2 Infantry boxes make sense... Battle Sisters, Dominions, etc in one box. Veterans in another box (Celestians, etc)
Who knows what will be in on the rumored 50 mm bases.
They already have a plastic Immolator Sprue... not sure what needs to be done there.

Imagine if the opposing force was the lost and the damned and included an upgrade sprue much like the GC spurs for imperial guard.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:
I'm excited. Read the whole thread, including the knuckle-dragging and chest-beating bits.
I think that GW will be true to form: Boxed game followed by a release.
The box will probably be sisters vs demons. Execution force has the cultists, and they aren't likely to step on those toes. Demons make sense, particularly with Thousand Sons being released before.
Ultimately, I see Sisters being a smaller release than Genestealers. more along the lines of Deathwatch because the vehicles get reused.
2 Infantry boxes make sense... Battle Sisters, Dominions, etc in one box. Veterans in another box (Celestians, etc)
Who knows what will be in on the rumored 50 mm bases.
They already have a plastic Immolator Sprue... not sure what needs to be done there.

Imagine if the opposing force was the lost and the damned and included an upgrade sprue much like the GC spurs for imperial guard.

I'm wishlisting Sanctuary 101 mainly because I've been after an excuse to collect some Necrons as well as supplementing my Sisters.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The sad thing is, we'll probably get plastic sisters that look worse and cost more money than the metal ones

Please, when has that ever happened with GW?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The sad thing is, we'll probably get plastic sisters that look worse and cost more money than the metal ones

Please, when has that ever happened with GW?

I used to think that and compared them to the Diaz sculpts then I was told to look at the old images in my ROC books - the new ones are cloest to that original concept

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Money talks.

I see what you mean. Chaos marines obviously don't sell well enough for GW to redo their kits. Sisters however are getting redone. Yeah, make sense. Seems like a bit of a sudden backtracking from your side, though… Were you not arguing that it was a terrible idea to redo Sisters instead of doing CSM just a few messages ago?

Were you not arguing that it was a terrible idea to redo Sisters instead of doing CSM just a few messages ago?

No.

So from an economic perspective GW should only sell Marines of every flavour. Maybe the odd big robot. But obviously only Marines. I mean Economics dictate right?

The only way for a company to not Stagnate is to speculate on new products. But hey yellow Space Marines are new right?

I can honestly say SM never interested me, evil ones did because they had well something more than just burly men. I did a cult army in 3.5 But it's basically useless now. Sonic Dreads nope.(unless it's changed now) My old army for 2nd had beastmen and cultists with daemons.

The game boxes usually sell okay, I mean save for Dreadfleet which really missed an opportunity to be Man of War 2.0.

S.Y.



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 Mr Morden wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The sad thing is, we'll probably get plastic sisters that look worse and cost more money than the metal ones

Please, when has that ever happened with GW?

I used to think that and compared them to the Diaz sculpts then I was told to look at the old images in my ROC books - the new ones are cloest to that original concept

I still would like the Diaz ones or at least a choice.

If sisters are awful I probably will just buy them and try to fix it, if it's impossible task then it's game over.

S.Y.

I'm afraid it's been far to long for me to believe this, pictures or it's not happening.

shinr wrote:
My biggest fear regarding this is that with all other rumors about the next edition/rules reboot/"sigmarification", their new codex might get released just right before the new edition gets out, AGAIN making them obsolete right out of the box just like it was with 2ed and Witchhunters and dooming them to commercial failure.

Look, do you want new Sisters, or not?


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 Mr Morden wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The sad thing is, we'll probably get plastic sisters that look worse and cost more money than the metal ones

Please, when has that ever happened with GW?

Spoiler:

I used to think that and compared them to the Diaz sculpts then I was told to look at the old images in my ROC books - the new ones are cloest to that original concept

If that's the case, the reveal of the new sculpts is going to drive some very amusing reactions...


If they go that route, I might even buy some.


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GreenOak wrote:
Playing Sisters currently shows a level of fiscal dedication higher even than that of FW HH fans.

Oh, please.



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 Roknar wrote:
This picture gives a good idea of what sisters are to me:


As far as I'm concerned, sisters of battle are amongst the most grimdark factions the game has. Which is why I love them. They also happen to look bad ass.
I just hope they keep the grimdark tone to the sisters, I don't want the equivalent of 40k paladins, I want my flying rodent gak insane witch hunters.

The problem is that GW gave us G-rated grimdark sisters, rather than the PG-13 version you pictured above, as opposed to the X-rated version we all want. If GW makes an "adults-only" version of the freakshow, I would buy it, but the schlock that they sold? No way.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

You're right, Sisters are only a small part. and Space marines are the cornerstone of the game and the big sellers. But that's not the point you were arguing. You were arguing that the heresy defines the setting and it doesn't. For anybody who's not a marine player (spiky or otherwise) the heresy and marines are a non issue. Tyranids, Eldar, Tau, even the modern iteration of the guard, if the chaos marines were wiped out tomorrow, it would have no major bearing on the setting. So let sisters have their time in the sun. It's not as if chaos marines don't get regular updates anyway. Hell, the whole point of that video was to hype up plastic magnus and thousand sons.

I agree with the good Inquisitor on all points.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The sad thing is, we'll probably get plastic sisters that look worse and cost more money than the metal ones

Please, when has that ever happened with GW?

Disagree. Despite them not being naked enough those are very well sculpted. Indeed they are among the best sculpts produced in terms of believable anatomy. With actual anatomically correct bone structure and joints, rather than a floating balloon shaped muscles <most AOS Khorne models>. As much as I love that Diaz-nettes they have issues such as their claws and static poses that are inferior to the new sculpts.

I really don't want the SM like shoulder pad... but otherwise hell yes!

S.Y.

 adamsouza wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

You're right, Sisters are only a small part. and Space marines are the cornerstone of the game and the big sellers. But that's not the point you were arguing. You were arguing that the heresy defines the setting and it doesn't. For anybody who's not a marine player (spiky or otherwise) the heresy and marines are a non issue. Tyranids, Eldar, Tau, even the modern iteration of the guard, if the chaos marines were wiped out tomorrow, it would have no major bearing on the setting. So let sisters have their time in the sun. It's not as if chaos marines don't get regular updates anyway. Hell, the whole point of that video was to hype up plastic magnus and thousand sons.

I agree with the good Inquisitor on all points.

WRT Chaos Marines, only Khorne gets regular updates. Nurgle runs a close second. Tzeentch a distant third. Slaanesh? Lucky to still be around. Undivided? Sorry. It's great that kSons are getting some love after all this time.

CSM are more significant to the Fluff and background than Sisters, that's not really arguable. Nids and Tau don't have much to do with Chaos, sure. But Eldar? There's a big thing.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

You're right, Sisters are only a small part. and Space marines are the cornerstone of the game and the big sellers. But that's not the point you were arguing. You were arguing that the heresy defines the setting and it doesn't. For anybody who's not a marine player (spiky or otherwise) the heresy and marines are a non issue. Tyranids, Eldar, Tau, even the modern iteration of the guard, if the chaos marines were wiped out tomorrow, it would have no major bearing on the setting. So let sisters have their time in the sun. It's not as if chaos marines don't get regular updates anyway. Hell, the whole point of that video was to hype up plastic magnus and thousand sons.

I agree with the good Inquisitor on all points.

WRT Chaos Marines, only Khorne gets regular updates. Nurgle runs a close second. Tzeentch a distant third. Slaanesh? Lucky to still be around. Undivided? Sorry. It's great that kSons are getting some love after all this time.

CSM are more significant to the Fluff and background than Sisters, that's not really arguable. Nids and Tau don't have much to do with Chaos, sure. But Eldar? There's a big thing.

Khorne hasn't had new berserkers in ages ...save Khan.. they might be older than Sisters.

S.Y.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

You're right, Sisters are only a small part. and Space marines are the cornerstone of the game and the big sellers. But that's not the point you were arguing. You were arguing that the heresy defines the setting and it doesn't. For anybody who's not a marine player (spiky or otherwise) the heresy and marines are a non issue. Tyranids, Eldar, Tau, even the modern iteration of the guard, if the chaos marines were wiped out tomorrow, it would have no major bearing on the setting. So let sisters have their time in the sun. It's not as if chaos marines don't get regular updates anyway. Hell, the whole point of that video was to hype up plastic magnus and thousand sons.

I agree with the good Inquisitor on all points.

WRT Chaos Marines, only Khorne gets regular updates. Nurgle runs a close second. Tzeentch a distant third. Slaanesh? Lucky to still be around. Undivided? Sorry. It's great that kSons are getting some love after all this time.

CSM are more significant to the Fluff and background than Sisters, that's not really arguable. Nids and Tau don't have much to do with Chaos, sure. But Eldar? There's a big thing.

CSM are more significant to the Fluff because the Space Marines are the MOST important faction to the Fluff. CSM are NOTHING without Loyalists and could be replaced entirely by demons without any other faction in the game being affected.

God no. The ragingheroes models are what I would consider the x-rated version and I really don't much care for that. Some of the sculpts are nice but for the most part they are too...girly for me, too much pin up.
Sister should be first and foremost about religious zeal. Showing skin makes somewhwat sense on the repentias, but the last thing I want to see is repentia with pinup poses.
That's just not what sisters are about, like... at all. That kind of stuff should stay on the internet *psst, give me link though*.

That's not to say they should all be wearing bob cuts, but yea. I really really don't want to see x-rated sisters. There are enough third party sellers for that already and they're no competition for even the existing metal minis as far as I'm concerned (save for the odd model). I also don't want "pretty marines" because of some misguided notion of attracting a female market or some-such nonsense.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

You're right, Sisters are only a small part. and Space marines are the cornerstone of the game and the big sellers. But that's not the point you were arguing. You were arguing that the heresy defines the setting and it doesn't. For anybody who's not a marine player (spiky or otherwise) the heresy and marines are a non issue. Tyranids, Eldar, Tau, even the modern iteration of the guard, if the chaos marines were wiped out tomorrow, it would have no major bearing on the setting. So let sisters have their time in the sun. It's not as if chaos marines don't get regular updates anyway. Hell, the whole point of that video was to hype up plastic magnus and thousand sons.

I agree with the good Inquisitor on all points.

WRT Chaos Marines, only Khorne gets regular updates. Nurgle runs a close second. Tzeentch a distant third. Slaanesh? Lucky to still be around. Undivided? Sorry. It's great that kSons are getting some love after all this time.

CSM are more significant to the Fluff and background than Sisters, that's not really arguable. Nids and Tau don't have much to do with Chaos, sure. But Eldar? There's a big thing.

You're missing the points, or shifting them. I didn't say CSM were less significant than the sisters. They are important to the setting. I said they're not as intergral as presented. If you're a non marine player, then the heresy and CSM are insignificant. They have no particular bearing on any of the Xenos races. And i didn't say Chaos didn't matter to the Eldar, i said CSM. Different things in that context. And when was the last time undivided was even a thing? Did they ever have any specific models apart from Furies in all this time?

On a side note, i've done what i think is the sensible thing and actually emailed customer services and asked if they can give confirmation. If they've announced it in the video, then customer services should have no problem sending me an email back confirming what was said in the video was right.

I really do hope that if Sisters do come out they give them a proper "Witch Hunters" book with lots of options (Inquisition retinues, Storm Troopers, Inducted Guard) like in 3rd edition and don't end up producing another Codex which has like 10 total units in it. I mean anything is going to be better than what they did with the Scions book, but it is getting a bit tiresome seeing books come out with 6 or 7 unit choices. That said, it's better that we are seeing some of them (Harlequins are a good example) than nothing at all.

On a side note, i've done what i think is the sensible thing and actually emailed customer services and asked if they can give confirmation. If they've announced it in the video, then customer services should have no problem sending me an email back confirming what was said in the video was right.

good thinking

Hoping for a positive response!

Well, like a million emails from subbing to this thread.

I can see that was a mistake. Anyways - hopefully we will get sisters but, if we don't, it's the usual bull.

JohnHwangDD 705042 8955901 wrote:

GreenOak wrote:
Playing Sisters currently shows a level of fiscal dedication higher even than that of FW HH fans.

Oh, please.



The problem is that GW gave us G-rated grimdark sisters, rather than the PG-13 version you pictured above, as opposed to the X-rated version we all want. If GW makes an "adults-only" version of the freakshow, I would buy it, but the schlock that they sold? No way.

Nice bunch of IG you've got there but seriously check out the prices of Sisters, ever since the availability started to plummet their prices have rocketed.

I like the "G-rated" version, might have liked a "PG-13" version and wouldn't have anything to do with an "X-rated" or "adult themed" version, that's not something I want to see in my gaming world thanks

 Sabotage! wrote:
I really do hope that if Sisters do come out they give them a proper "Witch Hunters" book with lots of options (Inquisition retinues, Storm Troopers, Inducted Guard) like in 3rd edition and don't end up producing another Codex which has like 10 total units in it. I mean anything is going to be better than what they did with the Scions book, but it is getting a bit tiresome seeing books come out with 6 or 7 unit choices. That said, it's better that we are seeing some of them (Harlequins are a good example) than nothing at all.

I actually hate this idea. I don't play sisters to play Inquisition and Storm Troopers, I play sisters to play sisters. 2 new multi use kits gives 4 new units minimum. That's enough to give us a few actual elites choices, and a new troop. Throw in a clam pack and plastic versions of what's actually in the codex and you're looking at right around the same number of units Dark Eldar have.

Every time the idea of a "Witch Hunters" codex comes up I can't help but fear that the non-sisters portions will be more point efficient and no one will bother to actually play sisters.

GreenOak wrote:

JohnHwangDD 705042 8955901 wrote:

GreenOak wrote:
Playing Sisters currently shows a level of fiscal dedication higher even than that of FW HH fans.

Oh, please.

Spoiler:

The problem is that GW gave us G-rated grimdark sisters, rather than the PG-13 version you pictured above, as opposed to the X-rated version we all want. If GW makes an "adults-only" version of the freakshow, I would buy it, but the schlock that they sold? No way.

Nice bunch of IG you've got there but seriously check out the prices of Sisters, ever since the availability started to plummet their prices have rocketed.

I like the "G-rated" version, might have liked a "PG-13" version and wouldn't have anything to do with an "X-rated" or "adult themed" version, that's not something I want to see in my gaming world thanks

That's half of my Imperial Guard infantry, to which I add Inquisition & Sisters. Sisters are priced comparably to metal Guard on a per-point basis.

I dislike the Pengine pilot, and abhor the Repentia. They completely fail to capture the essence of freakshow as pictured.

I highly doubt we'd be seeing storm troopers and the likes. Not with the inquistion codex and militarum tempestus. I could see more ecclesiarchy units, though with DW and genestealer cults I wouldn't be surprised if they got their own codex.

It's more than likely going to be 100% sisters, with some new units.

ERJAK wrote:

Every time the idea of a "Witch Hunters" codex comes up I can't help but fear that the non-sisters portions will be more point efficient and no one will bother to actually play sisters.

I agree. Inquisition have their own codex, so there's no reason to go back to "Witch Hunters". That being said, I miss the special rules from the old codex and wouldn't mind GW bringing them back. Rending like bolters, turning armor saves into invulnerable, hammerhand, and more stubborn LD bubbles made Sisters unique from other MEQ armies. Current Acts of Faith is weak sauce.

Bravo GW. Well played.

I seriously never thought I would see this from them. As great (relatively speaking) as their marketing has been lately it still won't save them if they don't do something about their prices.

Well I guess my opinion is in the minority. I generally just don't like seeing armies of GKs, DW, or pure sisters at the 40k scale (though that scale is quickly changing with flyers and knights and what not). The militant arms of the Ordos always seemed to me like something an Inquisitor could requisition a few squads of for a mission, and that was that. But you know, it's 40k and you can play an Army of knights at what is essentially large skirmish scale. As long as Sister fans get something they are happy with after the huge wait then i'll be happy GW is finally starting to listen to their fan base.

Heh. I thought there was more solid confirmation than that, since the thread was already 9 pages long.

Guess I forgot it was Dakka.

Honestly, I believe it's now possible with the "new" GW. Sisters don't have to become a major faction - just a "minor" one with a few troops would be enough.

One box for infantry and another for jump infantry with multi box vehicle and a few characters, and it's good enough. Really.

I just hope, if they release them at last, than it's not coming too soon. I seriously need to gather more money for this...

 Sarouan wrote:
Heh. I thought there was more solid confirmation than that, since the thread was already 9 pages long.

Guess I forgot it was Dakka.

Honestly, I believe it's now possible with the "new" GW. Sisters don't have to become a major faction - just a "minor" one with a few troops would be enough.

One box for infantry and another for jump infantry with multi box vehicle and a few characters, and it's good enough. Really.

I just hope, if they release them at last, than it's not coming too soon. I seriously need to gather more money for this...

Confirmation is the video and Lady Atia, so it doesn't get that much more official until the website and white dwarf.

 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

There was a rumor about 5 years or so ago that plastic sisters CAD designs were completed but were not possible to cast do to undercuts on their robes.

Clearly that is no longer an issue for them, look no further then the Skitarii for proof.

People in the bussiness working with CAD designs *know* what can and what cannot be tooled in plastic, the designs are never "completed" only to find out that they are of no use to tool. And even if that was the case (which it isn't), all one has to do is go back to the files and fix the parts with the issue. I am pretty sure they know that

Well not really, you need to think in context because at the time they could have done them with a 3 part slide mold at idiotic cost and time was the follow up rumor if I remember. Or to speculate, they could have designed them without the drapery so it would be achievable but the aesthetic was all wrong and didn't jive with their standards so they shelved it.