Horus Heresy - Burning of Prospero (GW) - SoS 30k rules in upcoming Dec WD

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**ruralguard**

Anyone else noticed the dreadnought / walker painted in Custodian colours in the background of the photo on their rules page?

**kodos**

TheWaspinator wrote:

Yeah, people are speculating about a special detachment like assassins have, but it hasn't actually been shown.

this one?
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Burning%20of%20Prospero%20Imperial%20Datasheets.pdf

**CrabWalrus**

TwilightSparkles wrote:
Outpost preorders up @71.25 (25% off) , gre eBay sellers now listing infantry blocks at 18.99 a set (10 marines, 5 sisters etc). I suspect 25% will be the norm for this weekend. Pretty bad that 3 from outpost is only £30 more than the equivalent of one at rrp from GW in New Zealand!

WOW! That's only $140 AUD delivered! I have pre-ordered mine from them already, cheers mate

**AllSeeingSkink**

Do they ship to Oz? I didn't think UK retailers were allowed to ship GW product to Oz.

If they do I might grab one from there. I'm not paying the $265 they're asking over here.

**CrabWalrus**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Do they ship to Oz? I didn't think UK retailers were allowed to ship GW product to Oz.

If they do I might grab one from there. I'm not paying the $265 they're asking over here.

Australia was a valid option in address selection and my payment went through so we shall see

**Thanatos73**

ruralguard wrote:
Anyone else noticed the dreadnought / walker painted in Custodian colours in the background of the photo on their rules page?

Good eye. That is a Contemptor in gold and red. They had dreads in the old art books. And Land Raiders and Jetbikes and Terminators among other things.

**Warhams-77**

Some more info about the November WD from the GW webstore. It comes with rules for using Contemptor dreads in BoP

Contents

November’s White Dwarf is here, and with it a free download allowing you to add Grombrindal, the White Dwarf himself, to your games of Total War: Warhammer (with a handy 20% of the game itself if you haven’t got it yet). Inside, Prospero Burns! We’ve got the complete lowdown on the great new boxed game The Horus Heresy: Burning of Prospero, with a first look in Planet Warhammer, plus Designers’ Notes, Illuminations and some exclusive extra rules. Elsewhere we’ve got an ’Eavy Metal Masterclass on painting cloth, the Ultimate Guide to Commorragh and all your favourites like A Tale of Four Warlords, Golden Demon, the Battle Report and more!

In this packed issue, you’ll find:

Planet Warhammer – All the news
Contact – Our letters page
A Tale of Four Keyboards – Total War: Warhammer comes to White Dwarf
Golden Demon
A Tale of Four Warlords
Temporal Distort
Hall of Fame
A World in Flames – We take a look at the Burning of Prospero
The Ultimate Guide to… Commorragh
Army of the Month – Rik Turner’s Blood Ravens
The General’s Almanack – A brand-new series about gaming in the Age of Sigmar
Battle Report: The Border War
Armies on Parade
Illuminations: Prospero
Battleground: The Fortress of Kah’Rahkél
Rules for the Lord-Veritant in Warhammer Age of Sigmar, the Legio Custodes in Horus Heresy, and Contemptor Dreadnoughts in Burning of Prospero.
Sprues and Glue
Paint Splatter
’Eavy Metal Masterclass
Readers’ Models
In the Bunker

**richstrach**

No Blanchitsu in the new issue? That's rapidly become my favourite part!

**Warhams-77**

It looks like :( There are a lot of other painting/army projects articles though. Tabletop rules for new miniatures, a feature I was missing in the last two WDs, are back.

**NivlacSupreme**

Custodes are up in the u.k. £25 for 5. I'm getting 15

**TheWaspinator**

kodos wrote:
TheWaspinator wrote:

Yeah, people are speculating about a special detachment like assassins have, but it hasn't actually been shown.

this one?
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Burning%20of%20Prospero%20Imperial%20Datasheets.pdf

Unless I'm missing something, it just says that the faction is part of the Armies of the Imperium. It doesn't actually give them a formation or anything, so they're stuck with the normal CAD, which they can't really fill. So they're stuck in unbound.

**Lurker**

TwilightSparkles wrote:
Outpost preorders up @71.25 (25% off) , gre eBay sellers now listing infantry blocks at 18.99 a set (10 marines, 5 sisters etc). I suspect 25% will be the norm for this weekend. Pretty bad that 3 from outpost is only £30 more than the equivalent of one at rrp from GW in New Zealand!

Looks like the price has gone up to £79.99

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRE-ORDER-GAMES-WORKSHOP-HORUS-HERESY-BURNING-PROSPERO-WARHAMMER-30K-/112170014448?hash=item1a1dda96f0

**angelofvengeance**

richstrach wrote:
No Blanchitsu in the new issue? That's rapidly become my favourite part!

To be fair, there's a lot of stuff they wanna put in it. Glad to see the return of the 'Eavy Metal Masterclass though.

**ImAGeek**

Lurker wrote:
TwilightSparkles wrote:
Outpost preorders up @71.25 (25% off) , gre eBay sellers now listing infantry blocks at 18.99 a set (10 marines, 5 sisters etc). I suspect 25% will be the norm for this weekend. Pretty bad that 3 from outpost is only £30 more than the equivalent of one at rrp from GW in New Zealand!

Looks like the price has gone up to £79.99

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRE-ORDER-GAMES-WORKSHOP-HORUS-HERESY-BURNING-PROSPERO-WARHAMMER-30K-/112170014448?hash=item1a1dda96f0

No, the £71.50 is from the Outpost, not eBay.

**Crazyterran**

600 points gets you ten custodes with 6 sword and boards, 4 spears, and a Vexilia.

Meh.

The Sisters would have been great as a good alternative to a culexus before they nerfed allies in pods.

Would have been.

**DeffDred**

richstrach wrote:
No Blanchitsu in the new issue? That's rapidly become my favourite part!

This is the best news I've had all night. I'm looking forward to the next issue because of this alone.

**Col.Gravis**

Kirton Games has it up at £76, or £79.99 inc. P&P, discounts on bigger purchases though.

http://kirtongames.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_71_201&product_id=1551

**Chikout**

So Geigor was sculpted by @darrenlatham. He is rapidly turning into one of GW's best designers.

**Lurker**

ImAGeek wrote:
Lurker wrote:
TwilightSparkles wrote:
Outpost preorders up @71.25 (25% off) , gre eBay sellers now listing infantry blocks at 18.99 a set (10 marines, 5 sisters etc). I suspect 25% will be the norm for this weekend. Pretty bad that 3 from outpost is only £30 more than the equivalent of one at rrp from GW in New Zealand!

Looks like the price has gone up to £79.99

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRE-ORDER-GAMES-WORKSHOP-HORUS-HERESY-BURNING-PROSPERO-WARHAMMER-30K-/112170014448?hash=item1a1dda96f0

No, the £71.50 is from the Outpost, not eBay.

Ah, sorry. I misread your statement.

**angelofvengeance**

Chikout wrote:
So Geigor was sculpted by @darrenlatham. He is rapidly turning into one of GW's best designers.

Yeah, he's certainly knocking out some cracking sculpts!

**H.B.M.C.**

NivlacSupreme wrote:
Custodes are up in the u.k. £25 for 5. I'm getting 15

Where are you seeing these?

**Thraxas Of Turai**

Probably eBay or one of the bits sellers, to example the Troll Trader has them up for £18, and £2 odd P and P. Postage probably kills it for you in Australia though. (Or maybe not, looks like it is sub £3).

**jah-joshua**

DeffDred wrote:
richstrach wrote:
No Blanchitsu in the new issue? That's rapidly become my favourite part!

This is the best news I've had all night. I'm looking forward to the next issue because of this alone.

you don't like seeing a few of our own Dakka users having their work featured, with beautiful photography, in White Dwarf???
strange...

for most of us that have grown up painting GW miniatures, having our work featured in WD is a life-long dream...
seeing it come true is a beautiful thing, which is part of what makes Blanchitsu so cool...

cheers
jah

**CT GAMER**

chaos45 wrote:
ya the custodians and sisters both seem underpointed compared to other type units point wise.

So yet more power creep for new releases as usual.

An AP 2 STR 4 wpn alone at initiative is normally 15+ pts lol.....and sisters get that + a ton of special rules.

Custodes for 50ppm far outshine any other unit at that ppm level.

People always make these claims as if the game is static and that there isn't a new edition right around the corner.

It is quite possible that their points costs reflect an eventual larger plan to recost many current models and make them cheaper as part of a general restructuring for 8th edition. Ultimately GW wants people to field (and thus buy) more modes, not less.

We already saw a reduction for say Helbrutes, etc.

Besides nothing is cheaper than all those free razorbacks...

**Warhams-77**

These pdfs and the WD rules are just get-by rules. For Age of Darkness Custodes will get a full army list in the 30k Inferno book next year, so do Sisters who will have rules to ally them with other HH armies - so both are fully supported by Forgeworld.

We don't even have Cataphractii rules for anything but Codex SM in 40k and this is a similiar patchwork approach, a service for players who would like to use them in their tabletop games already.

Maybe when GW is going to offer them as individual kits for 30k/40k there could be a proper 40k Codex release.

But for now these are just some 'experimental rules' thrown in for the fun. Was anyone really expecting they would be proper fleshed-out factions as of today? Next year when they get some vehicles and more models from Forgeworld it will be their full release.

I dont believe they will be more than a small 'fluffy' 40k unit like Rogue Traders are for quite a while.

**lord_blackfang**

Huh, I only just now noticed that the backs of Tertarus termies are pants-on-head slowed. It's literally half a regular termie back glued to half a PA power pack. Is it like this on FW models too?

**H.B.M.C.**

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Probably eBay or one of the bits sellers, to example the Troll Trader has them up for £18, and £2 odd P and P. Postage probably kills it for you in Australia though. (Or maybe not, looks like it is sub £3).

Hmm... that's cheaper than I've seen them elsewhere. Thanks.

**BrookM**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Huh, I only just now noticed that the backs of Tertarus termies are pants-on-head slowed. It's literally half a regular termie back glued to half a PA power pack. Is it like this on FW models too?

Eyup.

**Mymearan**

richstrach wrote:
No Blanchitsu in the new issue? That's rapidly become my favourite part!

Oh man, you missed out. Visions had Blanchitsu in every issue. Eye candy of the maximum degree. Blanchitsu style conversions, painting techniques and mind set is pretty much the pinnacle of the hobby. Can't get more 40k than that! I'd recommend everyone to join the inq28 group on facebook, we have all the masters in there.

**Binabik15**

Not the biggest fan of Mk3, which is a shame if I want some pre-heresy or VOTL Death Guard iin their original gear, but very tempted by this. If I wasn't waiting for a Wayland order that was shipped THREE weeks ago and now worried about losing another parcel from the UK I'd probably order it right now.

My only critique of the models would be the SoS. They should get roughly half of the bling you could remove from the Custodes, then both units would be improved. Plastic femals in armour that is somehwat plain is a great base for many conversions, but as super special snow flake blanks they should be a bit more tricked out, IMO, and the sculpting itself seems a bit lacking compared to the other minis and releases like GSC humans.