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Picture this: You wake up in the middle of the night to a loud boom. You look out the window, and there's a Space Marine standing in the middle of the street, moving down everything that moves. He sees you, and starts walking to your house. Using your knowledge of the Warhammer universe, how would you kill him?

Ireland not being a weaponised citizenship, there is quite literally nothing in my house that would even scratch his armor let alone put him down.
Best bet would be to show him my 40k collection......

If we make a vague assumption that the "strength" of an autogun is relative to the strength of a generic 20th century Earth-based firearm...go out guns blazing?

Realistically? Get in your car (if you can) and drive away, possibly running him over in the process - though the mass/size/armour of a Space Marine would likely total a normal vehicle nowdays.

Crafty? Try to lure him in and spray paint his eye lenses...set the house on fire and hope to confuse his remaining infrared abilities etc.

Long term? Hope he runs out of ammunition. It's been clear that Space Marines almost never carry spare magazines and if they do...it appears to be one or two. That's not a lot of firepower considering the comical caliber/bore size of bolt guns. I'd say 10-15 bolts per magazine, so wait until he runs out of ammo.

With a gun.

Lasguns kill marines all the time. Presuming, as many do, that a Lasrifle is roughly a modern battle rifle in power, then "shoot him with bullets" should work.

I think a better question is how does a normal human SURVIVE an encounter with a Space Marine?
Seriously, get some dice, 1 SM model and 1 Guardsman model to represent you. Play that out Kill Team style. The Guardsman wouldn't survive the 3 rounds he statistically needs to drop the SM.

Honest answer:
Run or hide, and hope he doesn't see me running and hiding.

Answer where I have access to what I have access to:
Grab a gun, aim for the head, because hopefully it's a sergeant and he's not wearing a helmet. Pray that I hit him in just the right spot, like an eye socket, because anything else isn't a kill shot. If he's got a helmet, aim for the neck, though even if I score a killing shot he'll be alive long enough to kill me in return fire.

Answer where I don't have access to a gun:
Find chemicals, and stand back because I'm going to try Science.

Grab a large kitchen knife and shove it through his cosplay armor repeatedly until he stops moving.

My knowledge of the WH40k universe suggests incredibly strongly that he is not a real Space Marine.

Space Marines go after critical targets and locations. A suburb with only random civilians is not a place any Space Marine would be during an attack on Earth.

Further, he is wasting his ammunition on random civilians. That's a very dumb thing for a Space Marine to do given how hard to make bolts are. He then decided to take me on in melee instead of shooting me from where he was, like he would have if he, for some reason was tasked with soloing a neighbourhood of civilians with no military or strategic value.

He is thus in an area no Space Marine would go, doing things no Space Marine would do.

Ergo, he is not a Space Marine, but instead a wacko cosplayer.

Grab a large kitchen knife and shove it through his cosplay armor repeatedly until he stops moving.

Brilliant.

As a single individual against a Space Marine at that kind of close range? Not much :/

I could grab an AK and hope for an extremely lucky one in a thousand shot, but practically speaking, as a lone civilian with zero time to prepare, there arent many options.

Now, I have no doubt any modern military wouldnt have much problem dealing with space marines on the ground once real world realities kick in, but as a random civilian in a self defense situation Probably not much other than running away.

 Vaktathi wrote:
As a single individual against a Space Marine at that kind of close range? Not much :/

I could grab an AK and hope for an extremely lucky one in a thousand shot, but practically speaking, as a lone civilian with zero time to prepare, there arent many options.

Now, I have no doubt any modern military wouldnt have much problem dealing with space marines on the ground once real world realities kick in, but as a random civilian in a self defense situation Probably not much other than running away.

Do you think a standard RPG-7's plasma stream would defeat Astartes Power Armor?

Run into the building and use one of the nonsensical stairways in the complex to lose him, while calling the army that happens to have a base nearby

If I had to kill it with no outside help.

Step 1 -> Use Paint buckets and baloons filled with paint
None of my power tools, crowbars or saws would be usefully vs the armoured hulk but we can sure blind it with paint. In the same way locals use paint to blind police

Step 2 -> Use Molotov cocktails. We sure have to have some flammable liquids in our home and who knows it might work. .. :\

With a gun.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
As a single individual against a Space Marine at that kind of close range? Not much :/

I could grab an AK and hope for an extremely lucky one in a thousand shot, but practically speaking, as a lone civilian with zero time to prepare, there arent many options.

Now, I have no doubt any modern military wouldnt have much problem dealing with space marines on the ground once real world realities kick in, but as a random civilian in a self defense situation Probably not much other than running away.

Do you think a standard RPG-7's plasma stream would defeat Astartes Power Armor?

We don't even know what Astartes power armour is made of, so how could anyone ever possibly answer that question?

We do know the damage it could take in the RPG's. Making most if not all or home made improvized weapons completely useless.

Spray and pray

The thing is that you will make cuite a profit selling the remains if you manage to take it down without too much "fuss".

 Pouncey wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
As a single individual against a Space Marine at that kind of close range? Not much :/

I could grab an AK and hope for an extremely lucky one in a thousand shot, but practically speaking, as a lone civilian with zero time to prepare, there arent many options.

Now, I have no doubt any modern military wouldnt have much problem dealing with space marines on the ground once real world realities kick in, but as a random civilian in a self defense situation Probably not much other than running away.

Do you think a standard RPG-7's plasma stream would defeat Astartes Power Armor?

I've always imaged the Boltgun bolts to be roughly equivalent to a RPG in terms of damage. Therefore, since Boltguns can take down Marines, a Rocket Propelled Grenade could work.

Only issue: as a civilian, I typically do not have access to RPG 7s. Best to pray to the Emperor and hope he passes you by.

Biggest I got is a 12 gauge that uses 3 1/2" shells. It'll knock a regulag person in modern body armour on his ads and take the wind out but that person will survive. Against a marine I doubt it'll even have that knock down power.

Get possessed by a Bloodthirster.

Do 3 years worth of 100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats and a 10km run every single day by the time he gets to the house so at least I have a chance to finish him off.

With modern equipment? S*** yourself and call in an airstrike.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
With modern equipment? S*** yourself and call in an airstrike.

Nonsense. Volume of shotguns will work. Just ask scouts about that. And heavy stubbers are directly analogous to machine guns. The fluff is just impossible. Canon can still be nonsense.

I suppose one on one is a problem.

Drown them in our dead, of course

Yell "For the Emprah and hope he leaves you alone. The scenario didnt really specify whether the SM was going to attack and kill you lol. Last time I checked, Earth's inhabited by humans and not Xenos. But probably find a way to live in that situation and come back and kill him.

Martel732 wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
With modern equipment? S*** yourself and call in an airstrike.

Nonsense. Volume of shotguns will work. Just ask scouts about that. And heavy stubbers are directly analogous to machine guns. The fluff is just impossible. Canon can still be nonsense.

I tend to operate under the assumption that weaponry has advanced at least slightly in forty thousand years. I'm also operating under the assumption that not every single detail the fluff gives us is wrong, and that armour designed to withstand impacts from a .50-caliber armour-piercing rocket-propelled grenade launcher is going to ignore or laugh at modern anti-personnel weapons, for the large part. (Space Marine Scouts have rather larger-calibre shotguns than you're likely to have sitting around the house, too)

Alternately you could notice that Space Marines have an irrational fondness for wandering around with no helmets on and you could just shoot him in the face. Or if the joke that the Adeptus Mechanicus appears to satirize Microsoft because it's literally Microsoft forty thousand years down the line is accurate (and we're running on Independence Day logic) you could call them up and see if you could get some help hacking his power armour and turning it off. (Hands up who just had a mental image of an illuminated red ring around the skull on the chestplate).

It also did not specify what allegiance the space marine was on. My guess is that if there is a SM here now he will be send back to the past in order to change history.

I don't assume anything is actually more advanced in 40K, because the Land Raider is clearly from WWI. Yes, there's magic space metal, and that's about it. Their targeting, thinking, numbers, and planning are all inferior.

 oldzoggy wrote:
It also did not specify what allegiance the space marine was on. My guess is that if there is a SM here now he will be send back to the past in order to change history.

If you were a member of the Ordo Chronos with a mind to alter history I'd think a random street in 2016 isn't the first place you'd pick (you'd be aiming for the Horus Heresy, at which point your Space Marine landing somewhere one of us could see him would be way off target and his mission wouldn't be particularly relevant anymore. The possibility that he'd decide to settle down and fix up the place and end up becoming the Emperor is remote, bizarre, and should probably not be considered.).

(On a sidenote do you suppose the Ordo Chronos talks about time travel and the Heresy the way we talk about time travel and WWII?)

Plot Armour is a 1+++++ rerollable in 40k, so I'd immediately call GW, get permission to write some 40k fiction and immediately begin recounting the events with myself as the protagonist.

My favourite bit will be where I script the marine to slip over on a banana skin whilst I am duelling him bic biro vs combat knife, allowing my mighty bic to be thrust through the chin of his armour, depositing a load of ink (which happens to be incredibly toxic to marines and immediately leathal)!

nareik wrote:
Plot Armour is a 1+++++ rerollable in 40k...

That's actually a good point. What Chapter is the Marine from? If he's an Ultramarine surrender now, you've got no chance, but if he's a Space Wolf you might be able to distract him by throwing a bouncey ball and if he's a Salamander you can probably just shoot him.