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Im sorry but i think you need to reread the annual report
Page 43
Retail cost 35930000 to operate
Retail profit was 3410000

They made 3.4 million i hope that was just a simple mistake .as i cannot see and minus on the figures.





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If your not supporting the store by buying from them and you are negitivly affecting paying customers . Then you have to ask yourself is this fair. Because they are the reason the store stays open
Again everybody has there own level of morals . I would go out of my way to support the people who support the store by giving them prority

This argument has been based on somebody buying all of there models from another place and using a gw store .Once you start at least buying some models from the store then your supporting the store so theres no issue .

Now things get very murky very quickly if you start trying to figure out how much you have to buy to use the store ect and at that point only time will tell how long the store stays open

ian wrote:
Im sorry but i think you need to reread the annual report
Page 43
Retail cost 35930000 to operate
Retail profit was 3410000

They made 3.4 million i hope that was just a simple mistake .as i cannot see and minus on the figures.

Notice how it's in brackets? Brackets mean a negative.


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ian wrote:
Then you have to ask yourself is this fair.

Fair is that it's a business and they need to find a way of making money and ideally that doesn't involve guilting people in to buying models.

Look, personally I DON'T play at my local GW because I also don't buy models. While I personally couldn't give a crap I'm sure other people do and I don't want to feel unwelcome doing something that is supposed to be fun.

But it's an arse about way of doing business because all it means is if I'm not playing there, I'm not going to the store at all, thus I'm ALSO not impulse buying anything from the store like I did back in the good old days. End result? The store is even more likely to close than it was before. Fact is I almost never buy GW models anymore anyway, I have almost all the GW models I want and funnily enough a large chunk of them were bought from GW stores, but a time before the current manager was there.

I wish people would just just separate the idea of buying models and using the tables. Don't think buying models entitles you to play in the store because you're personally propping up the store. Frankly the amount you personally spend is probably insignificant, most players just buy their crap and then never play in the store, THOSE are the people keeping the store open. Also don't think because someone didn't buy their models from said store it disentitles them to play in the store because it's up to the store owner to decide whether or not it's worth having tables set up and they can be the ones to choose whether they keep the tables, remove the tables or start charging for the use of the tables. If the store owner wants to be cranky and push people out then feth 'em, I hope they close/get fired. Stores with cranky staff are rarely successful in the long run.

I'd rather see the store close than have an unfriendly environment due to me not having bought the prerequisite unstated amount of models required for me to be welcome.

I think gaming stores need to stop thinking they're operating like a restaurant (where you aren't allowed to eat there unless you bought the food there) and start acting more like a pool hall (where you don't have to be buying drinks from the bar to play on the tables because you're paying for the table by itself).

ian wrote:
A quick paragraph provided from the link above

Each store is designed to complement the customer experience. As well as containing all the products a customer could desire, they feature display cabinets, painting stations and gaming tables all designed to inspire our customers and provide an environment in which to demonstrate our products.

The store is there based on you being a customer .
You are not a customer if you have brought the product off a 3rd party. The third party is then gw customer.

To suggest that gw is running these stores as primarly advertising just isnt it if they just wanted to promot there product they could save 1000s of pounds by using flgs to promote there products.

The stores are there for you to primarly buy from and in turn you get the benifits .
Its already been pointed out that if everybody stoped buying from there then the store would close . Which again suggest that if the stores primary focus is as a shop.

If you just use a gw store for your own free place to "live" for a couple of hours then you are taking advatage. Just because other people are providing enough money for the store to be viable dosnt mean you are entiled to have that benifit.

Now i am basing this on a busy store where there is a demand for painting stations and tables and you are stoping other people benifiting . There should always be a space left for customers buying from the store and if not, then at that point you are taking a benfit away from another person which is why i say moraly thats wrong .

On the other hand if the store is dead then gw does get a benifit from you being there and in that case painting your "own" models is ok as your promoting the hobby .
Like most things in life its not black and white



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I have one question that you should ask yourself .

If you had just brought a model from the gw store and wanted to have help and advice whislt building it as your a new player . but you couldnt do that because the space was being taken up by people who had brought second hand models into paint and hadnt contributed to that store being viable in any way

How would you feel about that ?

My personal Anecdotal answer is from my personal perspective- The local game community breeds their own. I don't need a GW "Employee" to teach me anything other then to avoid them at all costs, and go to my local cabal of Grognards, and Neophytes, as we discuss our own local scene, and continue to evolve our own LOCAL GAMING COMMUNITY.

The minute I rely on an international gaming company to tell me about the error of my ways in saving some money and playing games is the day that My local Game community will die.


I don't know about you, but on our end in the states, the GW's idea on how to run a "Game Store" is completely backwards and does not work very well over here. GW tries to compete with your already established local community, and in turn sucks out a large chunk of the marrow of the "Community" by putting the store near or in the same local as Independent FLGS.

Not only does their practices shatter a tight knit community, they do themselves a disservice in continuing to foster an "Us against Them" mentality. Combine that with the company practices of "Store Hours", "One Man Stores", "Overpriced Product", and they honestly set up the new guy, freshly indoctrinated, manager for failure.

I don't know how the "Business Model" works in Australia, but from where I came from, on several different occasions, in several different cities in the U.S. I have watched the opening, and closing of these GW stores go in for the kill, even with the help of the local gaming community- They usually end up in either two different outcomes-
1. The Local game store loses business and goes out of business.
or
2. The Local GW goes out of business.

There is no third option. In Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Kentucky, South Carolina, Michigan, Massachusetts, New York, and Now, Florida. Your local game store is the bonified hub of gaming. When the decision to pull the trigger and set up a GW in the same area, it goes much the same as has been alluded to in other discussion, first there is an elation, because after all, You are a GW player, your local game store has GW stuff, but you get to go in and embrace the suck of a company store. Then the GW store inches into the "Buy or get out" phase, and by then- your local game store has lost their cliental and goes into Defcon 4 stage where they are scared !@#$less about their survival as they cut their store staff, lose the GW orders, have them delayed, etc. and then rely on locals to keep them afloat, as they either wither and die, or reconfigure their sales mode and branch out into other venues.

GW is backed by an international corporation with a wide staff and deep pockets, they can afford to play that game, Your LGS does not.

As I can see in the Aussie Model, I do not see it on par with America, or Europe, I see it worse. I'll let our Aussie friends discuss how it works there...

A kid goes in, he has a finite amount of lunch money, BOTH stores should make it their mission to milk them, and do anything they can to keep the youngster in the hobby. A local game community and the store is to cultivate the kid in his chosen profession. GW is already going to make $1-2,000.00 on him/ her regardless, letting them paint a model that they got on a discount, being a GW model, is not going to do anything to GW in the slightest.

Sorry i did not relise brackets meant negitive . The only time i would have a problem with sombody that was just using the store and not contributing and i wasnt getting any games because they where always playing that sistuation is just not fair .

When does brackets mean negative? I always thought the - ment negative, not brackets. Is this a UK thing or something?

Life isn't fair, you can either find a work around or accept the fact your not using that table.

Pulling your face and trying to guilt people is what children do, adults find a way to make things work through compromises.

Davor wrote:
When does brackets mean negative? I always thought the - ment negative, not brackets. Is this a UK thing or something?

I dunno why but accountants like to use brackets to represent negative numbers. Maybe because they didn't want to get confused if there's a $ sign as well?

As an engineer it seems stupid to me, but then so do a lot of the things economists and accountants do

You learn somthing new every day .

I dont actual play at a store im lucky enough to have a mate who has set up a "club" at his house so im pretty lucky .

And i do agree adults make comprimises so if your not suporting the store dont hog the tables .
And thats my point it isnt fair so like the op orginal question is it wrong . No but its not fair on the people supporting the store if your not and they lose out on painting tables and games

Thanks AllSeeingSking. You made me chuckle.


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hobojebus wrote:
adults find a way to make things work through compromises.

No we don't. We can't make compromises when someone wants to play Unbound in 40K. We couldn't make compromises when we wanted to play Age of Sigmar. Or at least that is what the internet says. It's "Play my way because it's the only way." Remember Dakka says we shouldn't have to talk to our opponent before a game.

If your store was an independent, then I would say yes, they need all the help they can get, and its only fair that you support the store by buying their products to use in their store.

But its not, Its GW, its a multi million pound multinational company with many different sales channels, they control the prices of their products, they have the power to make stuff cheaper, to get you to come into the GW store, rather than the competition if they so wish.

As people have already said, they allow other stores to sell the same stuff they do at a discount, its on them really.

The stores have always been massive merchandising tools more than anything, in the UK especially, hence why they keep them in action even though they are not making much, if anything.

It will be interesting to see if they eventually do close the stores that are losing them money.

If it were me and I was wanting to go and hang around in the GW, I would at least buy some paints from the GW in question, just so I dont look like a freeloader, but I would not feel bad about taking in GW minis in to work with that I have bought elsewhere.
I can understand some people not giving a crap about it too, when I was younger, I would not have given a flying feth about what was morally right or wrong, as long I was getting the best deal.

If it was a different non-GW game store, I'd say it's wrong. But being GW it's more grey-area. Their company owns the product you bought. You aren't bringing a competitors product in. You painting and assembling the stuff can sell it to anybody walking in; you're kind of working for them for free. Talk with the boss there and see what he says. Likely won't be a big deal, especially if he sees the value of somebody assembling and painting product he sells while curious parties are coming in and looking. But if he does have issue with it, don't argue, just thank him for discussing it.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

ian wrote:
Im sorry but i think you need to reread the annual report
Page 43
Retail cost 35930000 to operate
Retail profit was 3410000

They made 3.4 million i hope that was just a simple mistake .as i cannot see and minus on the figures.

Notice how it's in brackets? Brackets mean a negative.

 notprop wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

ian wrote:
Im sorry but i think you need to reread the annual report
Page 43
Retail cost 35930000 to operate
Retail profit was 3410000

They made 3.4 million i hope that was just a simple mistake .as i cannot see and minus on the figures.

Notice how it's in brackets? Brackets mean a negative.

Indeed.

One thing to note is that despite the misunderstanding you can both be right. That retail loss will almost certainly include Procurement, Fit out, Decant/delivery, UK based management of overseas locations (+ travel) and attributable overheads. Setting up shops (and GW aren't that shoddy in terms of specification) isn't cheap. So there is a decent chunk of on-cost here all of which is an investment in increasing turnover, increasing player recruitment and moving as much full RRP purchasing through GW retail channels as possible.

None of which to say is that individual GW stores in the main do not make a profit as per the report quoted.

I live in Australia and I fly to the U.K. 2 - 3 times a year, I peer order from a 20% discount store and get a bulk order sent to my hotel. I then fly back home and sell the stuff on eBay for a 30% aus discount this effectively pays for my entire trip and I effectively get my hobby for free.
Is it wrong that GW sells stuff with such a high mark up that is it possible for me to do this?

 Kriswall wrote:

 notprop wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

ian wrote:
Im sorry but i think you need to reread the annual report
Page 43
Retail cost 35930000 to operate
Retail profit was 3410000

They made 3.4 million i hope that was just a simple mistake .as i cannot see and minus on the figures.

Notice how it's in brackets? Brackets mean a negative.

Indeed.

One thing to note is that despite the misunderstanding you can both be right. That retail loss will almost certainly include Procurement, Fit out, Decant/delivery, UK based management of overseas locations (+ travel) and attributable overheads. Setting up shops (and GW aren't that shoddy in terms of specification) isn't cheap. So there is a decent chunk of on-cost here all of which is an investment in increasing turnover, increasing player recruitment and moving as much full RRP purchasing through GW retail channels as possible.

None of which to say is that individual GW stores in the main do not make a profit as per the report quoted.

MY POST STARTS HERE:::
One of the issues with looking at a 3.4mm loss in terms of retail operations is that GW has historically (at least based on my personal conversations with previous senior mgmt) looked at the stores as a form of advertising and customer acquisition venue. If a store runs at a loss, but brings in a constant stream of new customers who purchase online and at other venues, it's a net win for the company. As such, it could be argued that the 3.4mm loss is really more of an advertising/marketing expense. Making money would obviously be better, but losing money on the retail operations isn't that big a deal.

You need to delete an extra [ \ quote] you have after my post for it to format properly.

But yeah, that was the whole point, if GW stores are a form of advertising or a loss maker intended to get people in to the game, you can argue that the cost of GW stores is tied up in the cost of the miniatures regardless of whether you bought them from a SPECIFIC GW store. GW stores are just part of a larger picture, not singular entities in and of themselves (like an FLGS might be).

The fact that there's a distinction between buying from one GW source and then gaming in a different GW store entirely comes down to the fact GW HQ base their judgement of a manager on sales rather than all the other stuff that actually goes in to creating a community.

In the end you could buy at one GW store and play at a different GW store and GW themselves wouldn't give a crap, the end result is the same, the only one being slighted is that specific store manager. Hell, you could buy $1000 worth of product from a store, a month later get a new manager as far as the new manager is concerned it doesn't matter where you got the models, it's not going on their sales record anyway.


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 balazra wrote:
I live in Australia and I fly to the U.K. 2 - 3 times a year, I peer order from a 20% discount store and get a bulk order sent to my hotel. I then fly back home and sell the stuff on eBay for a 30% aus discount this effectively pays for my entire trip and I effectively get my hobby for free.
Is it wrong that GW sells stuff with such a high mark up that is it possible for me to do this?

This is a large part of the reason I think GW's regional pricing is so bad. People can literally buy stuff at retail price overseas (or better yet retail minus discount) and get stuff cheaper than an Australian FLGS can get it wholesale.

GW try and shut down international sales channels, but there's always going to be grey market imports and local stores just can't compete with that.

Let the local market find it's own way by giving FLGS's globally competitive wholesale prices. If the FLGS can't afford to match international prices, then so be it, but GW aren't even giving the FLGS's the chance to compete. It's really no wonder at all that FLGS's over here seem to be moving further and further away from GW as each year rolls by (it seems TheCombatCompany which is one of the largest Australian online stores might be dropping GW? They haven't listed Blood Bowl on their site).

Kriswall wrote:MY POST STARTS HERE:::
One of the issues with looking at a 3.4mm loss in terms of retail operations is that GW has historically (at least based on my personal conversations with previous senior mgmt) looked at the stores as a form of advertising and customer acquisition venue. If a store runs at a loss, but brings in a constant stream of new customers who purchase online and at other venues, it's a net win for the company. As such, it could be argued that the 3.4mm loss is really more of an advertising/marketing expense. Making money would obviously be better, but losing money on the retail operations isn't that big a deal.

I am sorry, I don't understand this. What does millimeters suppose to do with this?

Davor wrote:

Kriswall wrote:MY POST STARTS HERE:::
One of the issues with looking at a 3.4mm loss in terms of retail operations is that GW has historically (at least based on my personal conversations with previous senior mgmt) looked at the stores as a form of advertising and customer acquisition venue. If a store runs at a loss, but brings in a constant stream of new customers who purchase online and at other venues, it's a net win for the company. As such, it could be argued that the 3.4mm loss is really more of an advertising/marketing expense. Making money would obviously be better, but losing money on the retail operations isn't that big a deal.

I am sorry, I don't understand this. What does millimeters suppose to do with this?

mm is also shorthand for millions. Apologies. I work in the financial industry. It's short for a thousand thousands... i.e. a million.

Financial people and their crazy maths strikes again

Kriswall wrote:I am sorry, I don't understand this. What does millimeters suppose to do with this?

mm is also shorthand for millions. Apologies. I work in the financial industry. It's short for a thousand thousands... i.e. a million.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Free market, buy where you get the best deal. GW'll have to compete like any other company would.

I agree with this, it's your money, you need to look out for your own finances.

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Free market, buy where you get the best deal. GW'll have to compete like any other company would.

I agree with this, it's your money, you need to look out for your own finances.

I also agree. It appears the original question has been distorted slightly and now the discussion has turned to should you pay where you play (or paint/build etc) You don't owe the store, be it GW or indeed a flgs anything, if you're on good terms with them then maybe you'll purchase there in the hopes of supporting it or out of some other loyalty. I know my flgs makes more profit out of food and drink then they do out of model sales and I always buy these. But when you can save serious money by purchasing your models or equipment elsewhere it's a no brainer.
Maybe GW should start serving coffee and cakes.


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Although I'd hate to think what they would charge : )

 Huron black heart wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Free market, buy where you get the best deal. GW'll have to compete like any other company would.

I agree with this, it's your money, you need to look out for your own finances.

I also agree. It appears the original question has been distorted slightly and now the discussion has turned to should you pay where you play (or paint/build etc) You don't owe the store, be it GW or indeed a flgs anything, if you're on good terms with them then maybe you'll purchase there in the hopes of supporting it or out of some other loyalty. I know my flgs makes more profit out of food and drink then they do out of model sales and I always buy these. But when you can save serious money by purchasing your models or equipment elsewhere it's a no brainer.
Maybe GW should start serving coffee and cakes.


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Although I'd hate to think what they would charge : )

You know how stupid this is? Yes buy else where because you can save money but pay and buy more expensive product as well. WTF?

If going by this logic, I should buy my GW product else where because it's cheaper, then go to the grocery store so I can buy my snacks and drinks cheaper then go to the store and just play or paint there. Even more money saved.

Davor wrote:

 Huron black heart wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Free market, buy where you get the best deal. GW'll have to compete like any other company would.

I agree with this, it's your money, you need to look out for your own finances.

I also agree. It appears the original question has been distorted slightly and now the discussion has turned to should you pay where you play (or paint/build etc) You don't owe the store, be it GW or indeed a flgs anything, if you're on good terms with them then maybe you'll purchase there in the hopes of supporting it or out of some other loyalty. I know my flgs makes more profit out of food and drink then they do out of model sales and I always buy these. But when you can save serious money by purchasing your models or equipment elsewhere it's a no brainer.
Maybe GW should start serving coffee and cakes.


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Although I'd hate to think what they would charge : )

You know how stupid this is? Yes buy else where because you can save money but pay and buy more expensive product as well. WTF?

If going by this logic, I should buy my GW product else where because it's cheaper, then go to the grocery store so I can buy my snacks and drinks cheaper then go to the store and just play or paint there. Even more money saved.

You can't eat/drink in most flgs apart from stuff bought on the premises and this is fine, I pay a few more pounds, and the store owner makes more profit.
My models however can be bought 20-25% cheaper elsewhere and so I save serious money on a standard sized 40k army.
I'm happy for those people who think this is 'stupid' to keep paying more. They're happy. I'm happy. Everyone's a winner.

ian wrote:
Thats fine but what about the space your taking from there loyal customers .
Why should they have to miss out thefe the reason the store is there. ( a degree of common sense is required here its if your always stopping customers playing )

The reason the store is there is something you quoted before:

ian wrote:
Retail - provides the focus for the Hobby in their areas. They only stock Games Workshop product. They are where we recruit the majority of our new customers. To do so the stores don't offer the full range of our product, just new release product and the appropriate extended range. At the year end we had 451 Games Workshop stores in 20 countries. Our stores contributed 41% of the year's sales. We have 355 one man stores, small sites, each one staffed by only one store manager. We also have 96 multi-man stores, which are constantly reviewed to ensure they remain profitable. If not, they will be closed and replaced with one man stores.

I don't see where it says seating/table priority is given to those who specifically buy there.

ian wrote:
Its not black and white and the moral issue is for the stores customers not the store itself

We're not talking about laws or something where morality goes up against the word of law. We're talking about something quantifiable: Money. Specifically, why I'm supposed to spend it in a GW store if I'm going to be playing there sometimes. Guilt isn't quantifiable and is a real gak marketing strategy. So you need to actually determine a system of meritocracy for who gets to use the tables, and right now it's essentially "people who are doing hobby things involving GW products." Don't like it? Talk to GW. I mean, by this same logic, if one were to be done buying GW stuff (which I am for the foreseeable future - I've got my army that I will be playing and am realizing I'm liking other systems a hell of a lot more so I'm spending my money there), one wouldn't be deserving to play upon the Holy Tables of the One Man Store because one wouldn't be spending any money there. But do people really have a problem with that? Are we supposed to be constantly pumping money into one thing and we aren't allowed to stray from the True Path? The reason people are having a problem with OP is because OP IS still buying things, just not from the GW. What if OP were buying things from one GW that's closer to work, and hobbying in a GW that's closer to home? What if OP wasn't spending any more money on GW at all because OP is done with their army, but still likes to play in the store? Those will also create the perception that OP isn't following your "moral" code.

 Huron black heart wrote:

You can't eat/drink in most flgs apart from stuff bought on the premises and this is fine, I pay a few more pounds, and the store owner makes more profit.
My models however can be bought 20-25% cheaper elsewhere and so I save serious money on a standard sized 40k army.
I'm happy for those people who think this is 'stupid' to keep paying more. They're happy. I'm happy. Everyone's a winner.

Ah so now it's not a GW store it's ok then eh? I thought we were talking on principle. Now I see it's a different story.

Everyone's a winner? How is the poor manager or the person running the one man store a winner now? Now we are just making excuses to make ourselves feel better for "giving it to GW cooperate".

Davor wrote:

 Huron black heart wrote:

You can't eat/drink in most flgs apart from stuff bought on the premises and this is fine, I pay a few more pounds, and the store owner makes more profit.
My models however can be bought 20-25% cheaper elsewhere and so I save serious money on a standard sized 40k army.
I'm happy for those people who think this is 'stupid' to keep paying more. They're happy. I'm happy. Everyone's a winner.

Ah so now it's not a GW store it's ok then eh? I thought we were talking on principle. Now I see it's a different story.

Everyone's a winner? How is the poor manager or the person running the one man store a winner now? Now we are just making excuses to make ourselves feel better for "giving it to GW cooperate".

I'm getting confused by your stance. I buy my models at the best price I can get them.
I understand some people buying at their flgs or local GW out of loyalty but I don't do it.
I purchase food and drink whilst at my flgs which helps the store to make money.
GW overcharge for everything, always have, always will. They don't get anything directly from me.
If GW served food and drink, and I played on one of their tables (which I don't) then I would proabaly buy something to eat or drink, as I wouldn't be able to take anything in (presumably)
Is my point of view that confusing?

Is it wrong to buy my food at subway then go into a local resturant to eat it? They still get the enjoyment of my company and my mess, I get their enjoyable eating space.

The owner should be happy I want to loiter in their building.

OgreChubbs wrote:
Is it wrong to buy my food at subway then go into a local resturant to eat it? They still get the enjoyment of my company and my mess, I get their enjoyable eating space.

The owner should be happy I want to loiter in their building.

Not a metaphor for the actual situation (assuming you mean you're buying food at a Subway restaurant and going into another named restaurant to eat it), because as I've said before, this is actually more akin to Burger King saying "Hey come in and use our tables for Burger King stuff," so you buy Burger King at location A (or a street vendor, because the discussion is really about a 3rd party retailer) and you go and eat at a different Burger King.

It's not like taking Burger King into an Olive Garden. It's taking Burger King to a Burger King, one which has told you to come in with Burger King.

Edit: Also, how ya enjoying those recasts you've talked about purchasing? Lol

Jacksmiles wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:
Is it wrong to buy my food at subway then go into a local resturant to eat it? They still get the enjoyment of my company and my mess, I get their enjoyable eating space.

The owner should be happy I want to loiter in their building.

Not a metaphor for the actual situation (assuming you mean you're buying food at a Subway restaurant and going into another named restaurant to eat it), because as I've said before, this is actually more akin to Burger King saying "Hey come in and use our tables for Burger King stuff," so you buy Burger King at location A (or a street vendor, because the discussion is really about a 3rd party retailer) and you go and eat at a different Burger King.

It's not like taking Burger King into an Olive Garden. It's taking Burger King to a Burger King, one which has told you to come in with Burger King.

Edit: Also, how ya enjoying those recasts you've talked about purchasing? Lol

You are forgetting something all GW shops are not owned buy 1 guy. Each one is indivually owned and operated, so you are taking money away from Paul the GW shop frachise user who is hopping to earn a living. By taking up space you are hurting a person trying to make a living with a hobby he enjoys.

It is as tho I buy my power from teds power then have the owner of the local power company come to my house to fix it for free.

OgreChubbs wrote:

Jacksmiles wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:
Is it wrong to buy my food at subway then go into a local resturant to eat it? They still get the enjoyment of my company and my mess, I get their enjoyable eating space.

The owner should be happy I want to loiter in their building.

Not a metaphor for the actual situation (assuming you mean you're buying food at a Subway restaurant and going into another named restaurant to eat it), because as I've said before, this is actually more akin to Burger King saying "Hey come in and use our tables for Burger King stuff," so you buy Burger King at location A (or a street vendor, because the discussion is really about a 3rd party retailer) and you go and eat at a different Burger King.

It's not like taking Burger King into an Olive Garden. It's taking Burger King to a Burger King, one which has told you to come in with Burger King.

Edit: Also, how ya enjoying those recasts you've talked about purchasing? Lol

You are forgetting something all GW shops are not owned buy 1 guy. Each one is indivually owned and operated, so you are taking money away from Paul the GW shop frachise user who is hopping to earn a living. By taking up space you are hurting a person trying to make a living with a hobby he enjoys.

It is as tho I buy my power from teds power then have the owner of the local power company come to my house to fix it for free.

Since when are GW shops franchises? They're corporately owned.