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 -v10mega wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:
Go read some of the fluff for the different legions/chapters on the wikis. Find which ones have an interesting background and color scheme that resonates with you. Then read up on their tactics on something like 1d4chan to find out how they play and what sort of units they tend to use. Decide from their because picking based on your personality is not remotely reliable in finding what you like. For example I love the Orks and especially like the Deathskulls clan but in no way am I a thieving, loot crazed, football hooligan, who thinks smashing things in the face is the epitome of fun and problem solving. Figuring out what you like and don't like is far more productive than trying to match a narrow and inaccurate self evaluation of your person that fails to capture the vast complexity of a personality.

Problem is that I have already done that...multiple times. Sometimes I feel like planning is the best way to go to war, so I become an Ultramarine/alpha legionary. But I want to be quick and hit hard so now I am RG, WE, WS and NL. But I love magic so now I am TS. My fav. colour is black. But I dont like Black legion or DA.

Why not a combined force with units drawn from multiple Legions working together, and you simply pick whatever Codex suits your gameplay style best?

 Pouncey wrote:

 -v10mega wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:
Go read some of the fluff for the different legions/chapters on the wikis. Find which ones have an interesting background and color scheme that resonates with you. Then read up on their tactics on something like 1d4chan to find out how they play and what sort of units they tend to use. Decide from their because picking based on your personality is not remotely reliable in finding what you like. For example I love the Orks and especially like the Deathskulls clan but in no way am I a thieving, loot crazed, football hooligan, who thinks smashing things in the face is the epitome of fun and problem solving. Figuring out what you like and don't like is far more productive than trying to match a narrow and inaccurate self evaluation of your person that fails to capture the vast complexity of a personality.

Problem is that I have already done that...multiple times. Sometimes I feel like planning is the best way to go to war, so I become an Ultramarine/alpha legionary. But I want to be quick and hit hard so now I am RG, WE, WS and NL. But I love magic so now I am TS. My fav. colour is black. But I dont like Black legion or DA.

Why not a combined force with units drawn from multiple Legions working together, and you simply pick whatever Codex suits your gameplay style best?

There's a thing in 30k called 'Shattered Legions' wherein you compose a warband from elements of different Legions (the most iconic example is the Iron Hands/Salamanders/Raven Guard remnant force at Isstvan, but there are more).

 AnomanderRake wrote:
There's a thing in 30k called 'Shattered Legions' wherein you compose a warband from elements of different Legions (the most iconic example is the Iron Hands/Salamanders/Raven Guard remnant force at Isstvan, but there are more).

Personally I've just thought for a long time that it's absurd for half-a-dozen different Chapters to have unique Codices, and a force drawn from multiple Legions would be very easily represented with cosmetic differences between squads if Space Marines only had a single Codex to themselves.

 -v10mega wrote:
So its been a while since I got back to Warhammer. I really need to find my legion so I can get to work on my 30k/40k army. My problem is that I keep switching. I need to find the legion that is best for me. I tried those quizzes but they really never helped me. I need help from you guys to find my legion. My friends described me as:

Negative traits:
-cold
-logical
-stubborn
-I hide my feelings a lot and look like a pessimist
-easily angry
-cannot handle stupidity
-quick to judge

Positive traits:
-Honourable
-sympathetic to people I pity
-loyal
-apparently I'm a good friend
-I can read faces
-Straightforward

Some things about me:
-born in a warzone
-hate the colour green love the dark colours
-Lazy (contributes to painting)

Please help me... you are my last hope.

I would have to say Iron Hands or Iron Warriors. Both have "dark" paint schemes and both of their primarchs had a really tough start to life (as most primarchs did) but persevered and managed to do something great- Pertuarbo litteraly means "I endure", a link could definetly be made to you if you were born in a warzone. The one issue with these legions is that neither are lazy, with Iron Warriors possibly being the hardest workers in the entire 30k universe imo. Both of their primarchs and legions are considered cold, logical and stubborn. Both Primarchs are listed as having volcanic rage (Ferrus' got him killed and Pertuarbo killed one of his Trident members just for bringing bad news). Both are also considered pessimistic. When Ferrus rejected Fulgrims offer to be a traitor, rather than be proud of the strength this took he wondered what flaw he had that made fulgrim think he could sway him, and sought to purge it on Istaavan. Pertuarbo is famous for being bitter about his position among the primarchs, but also hid his feelings alot. No one thought he was capable of anything but destruction, but when Fulgrim went inside Pertuarbos mind and saw the thing he wanted most- It was the most perfect city Fulgrim had ever seen. That is no small praise from someone like Fulgrim. Imo, no Primarch hid their feelings the way Pertuarbo did, he was capable of making amazing things, but no one ever bothered to get to know him and so he hid his talents. Neither of these Legions can handle what they perceive as stupidity. Pertuarbo banished Dantioch for what he perceived as stupidity. Ferrus Manus created a unique unit among the Astartes called "The Immortals" where he sent those men who had failed him, for one last fight before death. Ferrus was clearly an honourable man, but once again Pertauarbo's honour is often overlooked. In Angel Exterminatus when they attack an Iron Hands ship, he actually gives the Iron Hands 2 minutes to prepare for his attack and says to one of his captains "I am giving our worthy enemies a last stand. This was not an honourable victory, so we will give them an honourable death" This ties in really well to the whole "sympathetic to people I pity". Pertuarbo was actually incredibly loyal to the Emperor, but the lack of commendation from his fathers and brothers eventually wore that loyalty down. Instead, he was fiercely loyal to Horus. The same goes for his legion.

After all this, I think Iron Warriors would be the best choice for you.

Cassor the Damned wrote:
Pertuarbo litteraly means "I endure"

Which one means "I'm a poser"?

 -v10mega wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:
Go read some of the fluff for the different legions/chapters on the wikis. Find which ones have an interesting background and color scheme that resonates with you. Then read up on their tactics on something like 1d4chan to find out how they play and what sort of units they tend to use. Decide from their because picking based on your personality is not remotely reliable in finding what you like. For example I love the Orks and especially like the Deathskulls clan but in no way am I a thieving, loot crazed, football hooligan, who thinks smashing things in the face is the epitome of fun and problem solving. Figuring out what you like and don't like is far more productive than trying to match a narrow and inaccurate self evaluation of your person that fails to capture the vast complexity of a personality.

Problem is that I have already done that...multiple times. Sometimes I feel like planning is the best way to go to war, so I become an Ultramarine/alpha legionary. But I want to be quick and hit hard so now I am RG, WE, WS and NL. But I love magic so now I am TS. My fav. colour is black. But I dont like Black legion or DA.

Go Raven Guard with a Pale Nomad Predation Fleet. They are Terran Raven Guard whom were incredibly different from their kin - they are all about brutal, berserker assaults. They're likely the progenitors of the Carcharadons in 40k, whom you may find to your liking. FW even do some of their models.

 koooaei wrote:

Cassor the Damned wrote:
Pertuarbo litteraly means "I endure"

Which one means "I'm a poser"?

Fulgrim

Cassor the Damned wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

Cassor the Damned wrote:
Pertuarbo litteraly means "I endure"

Which one means "I'm a poser"?

Fulgrim

So, Emperror's Children it is.

 koooaei wrote:

Cassor the Damned wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

Cassor the Damned wrote:
Pertuarbo litteraly means "I endure"

Which one means "I'm a poser"?

Fulgrim

So, Emperror's Children it is.

Im lost, who is fulgrim?

Table wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

Cassor the Damned wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

Cassor the Damned wrote:
Pertuarbo litteraly means "I endure"

Which one means "I'm a poser"?

Fulgrim

So, Emperror's Children it is.

Im lost, who is fulgrim?

He is the primarch of the Emperors Children, now a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh.

Cassor the Damned wrote:

Table wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

Cassor the Damned wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

Cassor the Damned wrote:
Pertuarbo litteraly means "I endure"

Which one means "I'm a poser"?

Fulgrim

So, Emperror's Children it is.

Im lost, who is fulgrim?

He is the primarch of the Emperors Children, now a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh.

Cute. Who is fulgrim?

Table wrote:
...Cute. Who is fulgrim?

The Primarchs were the prototype Space Marines, who were 1.5-2x the height, served as commanders during the Heresy, and have mostly been either in stasis, in hiding, or sitting around on Daemon Worlds doing very little since then. Magnus (the big red winged fellow GW just brought out alongside the Thousand Sons) is the only post-Heresy Primarch model release we've seen, but if you go to https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Horus-Heresy?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102644+4294965006&qty=8&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat2210033 you will see the 30k-era models for twelve of the eighteen (Curze, Magnus, Jaghtai Khan, the Lion, Sanguinius, and Alpharius don't have models yet). Most of them exist in the 30k rules as big 400-500pt Lords of War with Very Bulky, S/T 6+, 5-6 Wounds, and fancy excessive wargear. (Magnus, Russ, Jaghtai Khan, the Lion, and Sanguinius don't have rules yet.)

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Primarch has the index and will provide the fun little founding-myth story for each Primarch (everyone's got some narrative about how they met the Emperor that in some way reflects the Primarch's personality and foreshadows what is to come).

Fulgrim is the Primarch of the Emperor's Children, one of the first to fall to Chaos, and one of the greatest mortal champions of Slaanesh; he's also one of the madder ones since his Daemon Weapon (the Laer Blade) messed with his mind quite a lot, had him kill the Primarch he was closest to (Ferrus Manus) at Istvaan (one of the opening battles of the Heresy), and gave him just enough lucidity afterwards for him to crack. He's spent a lot of time cloning Ferrus, trying to convince the clone he was right to turn to Chaos, failing, and murdering the clone and starting over.


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 Pouncey wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
There's a thing in 30k called 'Shattered Legions' wherein you compose a warband from elements of different Legions (the most iconic example is the Iron Hands/Salamanders/Raven Guard remnant force at Isstvan, but there are more).

Personally I've just thought for a long time that it's absurd for half-a-dozen different Chapters to have unique Codices, and a force drawn from multiple Legions would be very easily represented with cosmetic differences between squads if Space Marines only had a single Codex to themselves.

You are allowed to mix Chapters in your army so long as each formation/detachment is entirely composed of one Chapter (if a unit contains elements with multiple versions of Chapter Tactics they benefit from neither, but since the BA/DA/SW don't explicitly have 'Chapter Tactics' those may or may not stack), but it is more than a little annoying that random sub-factions of Marines get separate Codexes/major special rules while Guard are relegated to grabbing different Forge World army lists for different planets of origin and everyone else is just all uniform.

(I did run across a Sisters fandex that had Chapter Tactics-esque rules for the six original Orders Militant, but the whole thing was way too much of an exercise in turning them into Marines with boobs. The meta-detachment gave free transports if it included two of the 3 Sisters/1 Seraphim/1 Ophanim/1 Canoness or Palatine core formations (the iconic and oft-complained-about benefit of the Space Marines' Gladius detachment, if the joke isn't obvious).)

I think you preferred play style is more important that your personality traits. Are you more of a fan of Close Combat, or shooting? if you prefer shooting, do you like putting out a ton of shots or hitting your opponent with a few big hits? Do you like hoards or troops or elite teams? Do you like the idea of bringing in mass reserves and deep strikes (or drop pods) or having all your army out to start? Do you prefer tons of troops, large ammounts of vehicles, or a mix? To me, play style is important and I think your army should reflect your natural tendencies in gaming

 AnomanderRake wrote:

Table wrote:
...Cute. Who is fulgrim?

The Primarchs were the prototype Space Marines, who were 1.5-2x the height, served as commanders during the Heresy, and have mostly been either in stasis, in hiding, or sitting around on Daemon Worlds doing very little since then. Magnus (the big red winged fellow GW just brought out alongside the Thousand Sons) is the only post-Heresy Primarch model release we've seen, but if you go to https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Horus-Heresy?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102644+4294965006&qty=8&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat2210033 you will see the 30k-era models for twelve of the eighteen (Curze, Magnus, Jaghtai Khan, the Lion, Sanguinius, and Alpharius don't have models yet). Most of them exist in the 30k rules as big 400-500pt Lords of War with Very Bulky, S/T 6+, 5-6 Wounds, and fancy excessive wargear. (Magnus, Russ, Jaghtai Khan, the Lion, and Sanguinius don't have rules yet.)

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Primarch has the index and will provide the fun little founding-myth story for each Primarch (everyone's got some narrative about how they met the Emperor that in some way reflects the Primarch's personality and foreshadows what is to come).

Fulgrim is the Primarch of the Emperor's Children, one of the first to fall to Chaos, and one of the greatest mortal champions of Slaanesh; he's also one of the madder ones since his Daemon Weapon (the Laer Blade) messed with his mind quite a lot, had him kill the Primarch he was closest to (Ferrus Manus) at Istvaan (one of the opening battles of the Heresy), and gave him just enough lucidity afterwards for him to crack. He's spent a lot of time cloning Ferrus, trying to convince the clone he was right to turn to Chaos, failing, and murdering the clone and starting over.


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 Pouncey wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
There's a thing in 30k called 'Shattered Legions' wherein you compose a warband from elements of different Legions (the most iconic example is the Iron Hands/Salamanders/Raven Guard remnant force at Isstvan, but there are more).

Personally I've just thought for a long time that it's absurd for half-a-dozen different Chapters to have unique Codices, and a force drawn from multiple Legions would be very easily represented with cosmetic differences between squads if Space Marines only had a single Codex to themselves.

You are allowed to mix Chapters in your army so long as each formation/detachment is entirely composed of one Chapter (if a unit contains elements with multiple versions of Chapter Tactics they benefit from neither, but since the BA/DA/SW don't explicitly have 'Chapter Tactics' those may or may not stack), but it is more than a little annoying that random sub-factions of Marines get separate Codexes/major special rules while Guard are relegated to grabbing different Forge World army lists for different planets of origin and everyone else is just all uniform.

(I did run across a Sisters fandex that had Chapter Tactics-esque rules for the six original Orders Militant, but the whole thing was way too much of an exercise in turning them into Marines with boobs. The meta-detachment gave free transports if it included two of the 3 Sisters/1 Seraphim/1 Ophanim/1 Canoness or Palatine core formations (the iconic and oft-complained-about benefit of the Space Marines' Gladius detachment, if the joke isn't obvious).)

Rock will never die. Who is fulgrim.