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**H.B.M.C.**

Thunderfrog wrote:
The suck thing is the more I learn from this thread, the less it seems like a Sisters new book/release schedule or more like a "Formation with Celestine!" is in my future.

That's a dissapointment, of sorts.

Hard to criticise an orange for not being an apple. This book isn't a Sisters release, nor was it ever intended as such. It's a Fall of Cadia release. That's all it's meant to do.

**ShaneMarsh**

The Sisters will have their day and it will be sooner. Faith!

Release looks cool.

**bubber**

Will you need the Imp Agents book & C:SM to run the Sisters / BT formations / detachments from the Fall of Cadia book?

**pretre**

bubber wrote:
Will you need the Imp Agents book & C:SM to run the Sisters / BT formations / detachments from the Fall of Cadia book?

Almost certainly.

**jSewell**

So.... the book about Cadia has nothing for... Cadians(Imperial Guard)?

**Nightlord1987**

So the book about Cadia... with Abaddon on the cover... is basically just an Inquisition book.... hmmmm.

**guru**

from /tg

Greyfax: She’s been held in stasis by Trazyn,she’s meant to be from another time, captured by Trazyn the Infinite hundreds if not thousands of years ago, which is why her wargear looks a little more archaic than that of other Inquisitors. She appears during the final battle for Cadia, released from a tesseract vault on Solemnace by Trazyn the Infinite, Inquisitor Greyfax allies with black templars and fight against the chaos, but Greyfax is utterly appalled to see the Imperial defenders of Cadia worshipping the Living Saint – it is nothing short of idolatry in her mind. She also sees the Wulfen of the Space Wolves running rampant, Imperial psykers using their powers without sanction and an alien abomination that seems to be tolerated by the warriors around her.

**Nova_Impero**

guru wrote:
from /tg

Greyfax: She’s been held in stasis by Trazyn,she’s meant to be from another time, captured by Trazyn the Infinite hundreds if not thousands of years ago, which is why her wargear looks a little more archaic than that of other Inquisitors. She appears during the final battle for Cadia, released from a tesseract vault on Solemnace by Trazyn the Infinite, Inquisitor Greyfax allies with black templars and fight against the chaos, but Greyfax is utterly appalled to see the Imperial defenders of Cadia worshipping the Living Saint – it is nothing short of idolatry in her mind. She also sees the Wulfen of the Space Wolves running rampant, Imperial psykers using their powers without sanction and an alien abomination that seems to be tolerated by the warriors around her.

I wonder if she is one of the original inquisitors or maybe one of the earlier ones before the Age of Apostasy.

**ClockworkZion**

Hereticus came post-Apostasy and based on her hat she's no sooner than M36. Still upwards to 4k years before Celestine though.

That aside I eagerly await more leaks. What we have is very little at the moment and more clarity should be coming soon.

**Cephalobeard**

I'm excited for more rules leaks. Knowing their lore is fantastic, but know how they play feels more important. To me, anyway.

**pretre**

We've seen that little nugget trotted out a couple times. From /tg/ is basically like saying 'written by a large number of monkeys one a large number of feces covered typewriters', however.

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It also directly conflicts with the fact that other reports have her using psychic powers. Oh well, another one to add to tg's wonderful rumor record.

**guru**

more pics found on /tg...

Spoiler:

**Dryaktylus**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Hereticus came post-Apostasy

That was changed some years ago - they only went to public after the Apostasy.

**MrFlutterPie**

So Greyfax might have been a Sister of Battle yet somehow is a pysker and doesn't like Celestine?

Wut

**Carnikang**

MrFlutterPie wrote:
So Greyfax might have been a Sister of Battle yet somehow is a pysker and doesn't like Celestine?

Wut

She's before Celestine, hates herself, and MIGHT have been a Sister. Could have just 'acquired' a set of their armor.

**ClockworkZion**

Celestine having "psychic doves" is definitely heresy.

**Sersi**

MrFlutterPie wrote:
So Greyfax might have been a Sister of Battle yet somehow is a pysker and doesn't like Celestine?

Wut

Grimdark bro...

She's a self hating psyker-witch, who digs the witch-hating....yet sanctioned psyker loving Black Templars. Of course she hates Celestine who now has ethereal, psychic "john-woo" doves and stuff. I just don't get her problem with sanctioned Psykers, given she herself is a sanctioned psyker.

By the ways she been presumed dead for thousands of years. Does she even have Inquisitorial powers anymore? Or is it an only in death does duty end kinda thing?

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ClockworkZion wrote:
"psychic doves" is definitely heresy.

No...no. That's extra heresy! Calling it now. Reboot Sisters will get their own psychic lore or faith.

**Rihgu**

Sersi wrote:
MrFlutterPie wrote:
So Greyfax might have been a Sister of Battle yet somehow is a pysker and doesn't like Celestine?

Wut

Grimdark bro... She's a self hating psyker-witch, who digs the witch-hating....yet sanctioned psyker loving Black Templars. Of course she hates Celestine who now has ethereal, psychic "john-woo" doves and stuff. I just don't get her problem with sanctioned Psykers, given she herself is a sanctioned psyker.

By the ways she been presumed dead for thousands of years. Does she even have Inquisitorial powers anymore? Or is it an only in death does duty end kinda thing?

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ClockworkZion wrote:
"psychic doves" is definitely heresy.

No...no. That's extra heresy! Calling it now. Reboot Sisters will get their own psychic lore or faith.

Considering the nature of the Warp and Warp travel, I'm sure she's not the first Inquisitor to go missing for a few thousand years. The Inquisition has probably had to deal with Inquisitors existing thousands of years before they're supposed to, too.

**Nostromodamus**

Rihgu wrote:

Considering the nature of the Warp and Warp travel, I'm sure she's not the first Inquisitor to go missing for a few thousand years. The Inquisition has probably had to deal with Inquisitors existing thousands of years before they're supposed to, too.

Sounds like a job for the Ordo Chronos Inquisitors!

**Yodhrin**

Dryaktylus wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Hereticus came post-Apostasy

That was changed some years ago - they only went to public after the Apostasy.

Where's that from? All the sources I can find still refer to them as being founded during/in response to the Age of Apostasy.

**ClockworkZion**

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
(some stuff is currently leaked data but with new additions as well)
Triumvirate of the Imperium - 80$
-Includes all 3 Characters within the Gathering Storm: Fall of Cadia book.
-Inquisitor Greyfax, comes with a Ornate Power Armour, Master Crafted Powersword, Condemnor Boltgun, Psyk-out grenades and the Psyocculum - the Eye of the Emperor.
-Belisarius Cawl comes with a Master Crafted Power Axe, Arc Scourge, Refractor field, mechadendrite hive and Scryerskull - He also confers the Canticles of the Omnissiah Special rule to allied units within range
-Saint Celestine with the Armour of St. Katherine, Bolt Pistol and Ardent Blade - She also confers the Act of Faith Special rule to allied units within range
her 2 Geminae Superia, Sister Eleanor and Sister Genevieve come with Bolt Pistols and Power Swords.

Gathering Storm: Fall of Cadia - 50$
-136 Pages
-Rules for Belisarius Cawl, Saint Celestine and Inquisitor Greyfax. Celestine and Belisarius Cawl also confers the Act of Faith/Canticles of the Omnissiah Special rule to allied units within range.
-6 Relics for the Ecclisarchy usable by Adepta Sororitas
-6 Arcana Mechanicum usable by Cult Mechanicus
-Grand Convocation detatchment, which combines Cult Mechanicus, Skitarii and Mechanicus Knights
-Imperial Crusade detatchment, which combines Black Templars and Adepta Sororitas
-Triumvirate of the Imperium Formation, which lets you field Celestine, Belisarius Cawl and Inquisitor Greyfax as one Formation
-4 new Altar of War Missions
Battlezone: Empyric Storms rules. For raging warpstorm effects, like halving the range of psychic powers or even removing invulnerable saves.

Battlezone: Empyric Storm Cards - 15$
-36 reference cards for the empyric storm events, adding psychic rules and effects to the battle. Usable in any game of Warhammer 40k

Start Collecting! Deathwatch - 85$
-Watch Captain Artemis
-2 sets of Deathwatch Space Marines
-1 Venerable Dreadnought and Deathwatch Upgrade Sprue
-Comes with the Indomitus Kill team Formation sheet

**Carnikang**

ClockworkZion wrote:

Start Collecting! Deathwatch - 85$
-Watch Captain Artemis
-2 sets of Deathwatch Space Marines
-1 Venerable Dreadnought and Deathwatch Upgrade Sprue
-Comes with the Indomitus Kill team Formation sheet

No they didn't. WHERE'S MY GSC SC!?

**casvalremdeikun**

Start Collecting Deathwatch has nearly everything I needed when I started collecting them, just too late. God that is infuriaying.

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Carnikang wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:

Start Collecting! Deathwatch - 85$
-Watch Captain Artemis
-2 sets of Deathwatch Space Marines
-1 Venerable Dreadnought and Deathwatch Upgrade Sprue
-Comes with the Indomitus Kill team Formation sheet

No they didn't. WHERE'S MY GSC SC!?

Wait a few months like you did between DW and GSC the first time.

**Sersi**

-Imperial Crusade detatchment, which combines Black Templars and Adepta Sororitas

Well I'm buying the Triumvirate of the Imperium and book no question. Time to give the old Marshal a fresh coat of gold paint if he going to entertaining a Living Saint. Given how there portraying Templar in the fluff fawning over a mere navigator. Can you imagine there response to an actual saint. Can space marines squee?

**H.B.M.C.**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Start Collecting! Deathwatch - 85$
-Watch Captain Artemis
-2 sets of Deathwatch Space Marines
-1 Venerable Dreadnought and Deathwatch Upgrade Sprue
-Comes with the Indomitus Kill team Formation sheet

**Wulfey**

On the Greyfax being a psyker business, hypocrisy is at the very essence of the inquisition. Ordo Xenos uses Xenos weapons. Ordo Malleus uses Daemonhosts. Ordo Hereticus regularly deals with reformist organizations.

**tneva82**

Nostromodamus wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Manchu wrote:
StupidYellow wrote:
Abandon should be able to sway entire planets to his cause, and not by might, by sheer political acumen, have him a master of diplomacy enhanced by the gods and if they don't fall in line then have him invade.
Very good point. I suspect many world's are only tenuously loyal anyhow. Abaddon should really have little trouble swaying them, so long as he can convince them he can protect them from the IoM.

Hmm dunno. If satan came to your doorstep and said "we can protect you! Join us!" would you join?

That's basically what chaos and their followers have been taught to be so they are going to have pretty strong distrust from the getgo.

If Satan came to my door and I had no idea who he was and he had just kicked the ass of the dictatorship that had been opressing me and my people for millennia and offered me a chance at UNLIMITED POWAH, I might be tempted. I think this is the more likely scenario.

Yeah but in this case when somebody comes in suggesting join what you have been taught to be the satan(or next best thing)...

It's not like Imperium isn't doing propaganda AGAINST them. The planet population has been subjected into propaganda so much that doubtful they would even ask for terms before doing what they have been taught to do(under penalty of death from disobeying)

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pretre wrote:
We've seen that little nugget trotted out a couple times. From /tg/ is basically like saying 'written by a large number of monkeys one a large number of feces covered typewriters', however.

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It also directly conflicts with the fact that other reports have her using psychic powers. Oh well, another one to add to tg's wonderful rumor record.

That piece had nothing that would contradict with her using psychic powers. Note she was described as being against psychic powers used _without sanction_. That doesn't mean she's against SANCTIONED use.

**Nova_Impero**

guru wrote:
more pics found on /tg...

Spoiler:

That answers my question and raises a few others.

**Breotan**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Start Collecting! Deathwatch - 85$
-Watch Captain Artemis
-2 sets of Deathwatch Space Marines
-1 Venerable Dreadnought and Deathwatch Upgrade Sprue
-Comes with the Indomitus Kill team Formation sheet

Weirdly comes with more Deathwatch Marines than Death Masque did.

And far fewer Harlequins (in case you forgot about that part).

H.B.M.C. wrote:
But what about Star Collecting Tzeentch Daemons.

Damn. You're making me wish I hadn't bought the Thousand Sons boxes instead of waiting for a SC set.

**casvalremdeikun**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Start Collecting! Deathwatch - 85$
-Watch Captain Artemis
-2 sets of Deathwatch Space Marines
-1 Venerable Dreadnought and Deathwatch Upgrade Sprue
-Comes with the Indomitus Kill team Formation sheet

Weirdly comes with more Deathwatch Marines than Death Masque did.

But what about Star Collecting Tzeentch Daemons.

It comes with the same number. Eleven Marines and one Dreadnought.