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ERJAK wrote:

 tastytaste wrote:

 Atia wrote:

Be careful when posting that list, people will call you names and say it's fake (even if allot of it has come true and this was listed 3 months before the first release on it).

Eh nope, the list is fake. And everything on it that actually was right, was either already rumoured (I already said there would be a new Kharn - same goes for Rubrics and Magnus ....), or seen in the case of the Eldrad sprue.

Anyways - back to topic. Can't wait to see what you guys will say to the next two re-sculpts of classic chaos characters (and I can't wait to see BoLS making a big wishlist rumour out of this *giggles*).

Sorta like how you constantly grab rumors from 4chan, Reddit, Facebook, and Foreign sites, then claim them as your own or take existing rumors add some vagueness so you can't be wrong. BoLS is total gak, but you ain't no Saint either.

You shut up. Atia is basically a Saint and I trust her word over GW's at this point. At least she would know that not every model with an inqusition symbol is a Canoness. Atia is 100% reliable and does good work getting us stuff to be excited about.

Why should he? Maybe he has a point, maybe not. And, well, I like my (more believable) rumours (or collected rumours) - from Atia, Hastings, Harry etc. I wouldn't call anyone of them a "saint" or praise him/her though. A simple "thank you" should be enough.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Why should he? Maybe he has a point, maybe not. And, well, I like my (more believable) rumours (or collected rumours) - from Atia, Hastings, Harry etc. I wouldn't call anyone of them a "saint" or praise him/her though. A simple "thank you" should be enough.

Why should he? Maybe about rule Number One about being polite? That was venomous and not polite at all. Also he has no proof to back up his statement. Ironic claiming someone is guessing is what he is doing. Does he have actual facts this is true?

This was just plain rude. Lady Atia didn't claim she was a saint. She didn't claim anything. For someone to come in and say "you ain't no Saint" is just plain rude. He is forcing Lady Atia now to claim something she never said she was.

RULE #1 - BE POLITE.

Make your points without personal insults, everyone, please.

[MOD EDIT - RULE #2 - Alpharius]

Sweet baby Emperor this has gotten a bit silly. How'd we go from rumors to soap operas?

Quite frankly I'm rather interested in the "Dreamer" page from the previews. It adds more questions than it answers while still pushing things a little forward for Celestine as a character. I know some want her and the Sisters act of Faith stuff to stay super vague and unexplained but I feel that it gives enough insight without explaining anything properly to give us new questions.

gungo wrote:
Spoilers


Don't read below....

Spoiler:

[...]but Celestine comes back (while slowly losing her soul each time)[...]
(Side note: the power derived from faith in the emporer is warp based)

I don't like this. Especially the second one.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

gungo wrote:
Spoilers


Don't read below....

Spoiler:

[...]but Celestine comes back (while slowly losing her soul each time)[...]
(Side note: the power derived from faith in the emporer is warp based)

I don't like this. Especially the second one.

What else could it be other than that?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

gungo wrote:
Spoilers


Don't read below....

Spoiler:

[...]but Celestine comes back (while slowly losing her soul each time)[...]
(Side note: the power derived from faith in the emporer is warp based)

I don't like this. Especially the second one.

Why? I mean I get the logic just fine:

Of course faith is warp-based. It's the reason why praying to the Emperor can have tangible real-life effects: Emotions/thoughts affect the Warp.

Anyway, so far this seems like a pretty typical GW battle:

Step 1 - Enemy invades a planet of the Imperium.
Step 2 - Overwhelming Imperial response.
Step 3 - ???
Step 4 - Crushing Imperial defeat.

And don't call Doobie running away as Cadia fething explodes a "Pyrrhic victory". The Imperium lost.

 tastytaste wrote:
Sorta like how you constantly grab rumors from 4chan, Reddit, Facebook, and Foreign sites, then claim them as your own or take existing rumors add some vagueness so you can't be wrong. BoLS is total gak, but you ain't no Saint either.

If this was at all true, then she would have a much worse record. Instead, she has practically a spotless one. This doesn't indicate cherry picking from other sites to get it. What she does do is repost reliable stuff from other sites and leaks with attribution. That's not rumors, that's reporting.

Aaanyways. You used to do pretty well on accuracy yourself, Tasty, no need to sling arrows.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

gungo wrote:
Spoilers


Don't read below....

Spoiler:

[...]but Celestine comes back (while slowly losing her soul each time)[...]
(Side note: the power derived from faith in the emporer is warp based)

I don't like this. Especially the second one.

Why? I mean I get the logic just fine:

Spoiler:

We don't have proof that the warp itself is the source of the power which leaves a less psyker solution: the warp is a medium for the Emperor's light (like a river bed full of water). His light (by means of the Golden Throne) carries to all corners of the galaxy, likewise it could reach the saints of the Imperium through the warp the same way without being of the warp. It could also be the means sanctioned psykers us to derive their powers: by forging a connection to the Emperor's light over the warp thus making them safer than warp touched witches.

Any psychic residue in any of the powers? A side effect of feeding the souls of psykers to the Golden Throne to keep it going and not actual psychic powers from the warp.

But that's my interpretation without reading the whole story.

the point was that Celestine is powered by the faith in the emporer and the pylons were able to effect her as well. Hence the power derived from the emporer is also part of the warp.

The first part of Celestine slowly losing her soul. Soul is not the word they used but each rebirth she loses part of her memories/self and is slowly fading away and at some point she will never comeback. she only wants to stay in whatever warp/heaven place she goes to each time she dies. This isn't exactly new lore so there is no reason to be upset about it.

Yup. Kessler and the Horus Heresy has been laying ground work for this as well has the barrier between Terra and the Warp where angelic beings fight chaos and even destroyed some of the fleeing Chaos Marines following Horus's death.

There has been a lot of work to basically tie the Emperor into the warp even if he isn't a direct part of it. I'm still reading Master of Mankind but I've heard there are some tie ins there too.

gungo wrote:

Spoiler:

The first part of Celestine slowly losing her soul. Soul is not the word they used but each rebirth she loses part of her memories/self and is slowly fading away and at some point she will never comeback. she only wants to stay in whatever warp/heaven place she goes to each time she dies.

This isn't exactly new lore so there is no reason to be upset about it.

This IS new fluff and also spoilers.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

gungo wrote:

Spoiler:

The first part of Celestine slowly losing her soul. Soul is not the word they used but each rebirth she loses part of her memories/self and is slowly fading away and at some point she will never comeback. she only wants to stay in whatever warp/heaven place she goes to each time she dies.

This isn't exactly new lore so there is no reason to be upset about it.

This IS new fluff and also spoilers.

The ball for it has been rolling since the WD Dex so I can accept it. I have a feeling that the plan for all (the entire setting) of this may have germinated back when the rolled back the timeline at the start of 4th and started moving in a more cohesive direction.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

gungo wrote:

Spoiler:

The first part of Celestine slowly losing her soul. Soul is not the word they used but each rebirth she loses part of her memories/self and is slowly fading away and at some point she will never comeback. she only wants to stay in whatever warp/heaven place she goes to each time she dies.

This isn't exactly new lore so there is no reason to be upset about it.

This IS new fluff and also spoilers.

The ball for it has been rolling since the WD Dex so I can accept it. I have a feeling that the plan for all (the entire setting) of this may have germinated back when the rolled back the timeline at the start of 4th and started moving in a more cohesive direction.

Ding!!! Celestine was always stated to not have an unlimited lifeline. This isn't new.

I wish I was more excited about all of this new stuff happening.

They've released stuff FINALLY for most of my favourite armies. Chaos Marines, Black Templars, Sisters, and now possibly Dark Eldar after years of neglect.

But I can't help this sneaking suspicion like they're just going to tank the next edition like they did with Fantasy. I'm so scared of what they'll do to 40K that I just can't buy into all this stuff until I see where it's headed.

They fooled me once with the End TImes, I don't want to be ripped off again.

Everything I love in this hobby they destroy, I'm not sure what will be left at the end.

 War Kitten wrote:
Motion to name Lady Atia the patron saint of Dakka?

So it is written, so shall it be done!

this is a good post

Man, if they killed I am going to be pissed.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Man, if they killed

Spoiler:

Lysander

I am going to be pissed.

But you'd Totally miss out on

gungo wrote:
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So abaddon sabotaged the pylons and they blew up tying to hold back the immaterium, Celestine and her 2 guards gets killed by abaddon (or his forces for her guards)but Celestine comes back (while slowly losing her soul each time), Celestine revives just in time to save a one armed mangled creed from dying by abaddon and what remains of the cadian 8th pulls creed to safety. Celestine severely wounds abaddon by putting her sword into his spine.

OK how about this for a twist:

Considering the story leaks we have that is not a very likely twist. Or one that makes any sense.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Considering the story leaks we have that is not a very likely twist. Or one that makes any sense.

Which means it'll almost certainly happen then, given GW's typical writing in these campaigns

Joyboozer wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Man, if they killed

Spoiler:

Lysander

I am going to be pissed.

But you'd Totally miss out on

Spoiler:

Dorn coming back, cradling Lysanders corpse, and yelling Abbadon to the sky

I guess this is GW clearing out their Finecast model characters so they don't have to make plastic versions.

just in time for the return of Cortez, now in plastic!

Joyboozer wrote:
just in time for the return of Cortez, now in plastic!

Don't you tease me! I would buy the ever-living gak out of a plastic Captain Cortez. Especially since it is heavily implied in the Deathwatch Codex that he is free from the Dark Eldar now. But how do you fit that much awesome in one character? EW, IWND, FNP?

No word from VeteranNoob yet. Stupid weather!

I am stupefied beyond belief that some people think this qualifies as an Imperial Victory.

 pretre wrote:

 tastytaste wrote:
Sorta like how you constantly grab rumors from 4chan, Reddit, Facebook, and Foreign sites, then claim them as your own or take existing rumors add some vagueness so you can't be wrong. BoLS is total gak, but you ain't no Saint either.

If this was at all true, then she would have a much worse record. Instead, she has practically a spotless one. This doesn't indicate cherry picking from other sites to get it. What she does do is repost reliable stuff from other sites and leaks with attribution. That's not rumors, that's reporting.

Aaanyways. You used to do pretty well on accuracy yourself, Tasty, no need to sling arrows.

I totally respect ya Pretre and your rumor logging.

I agree the record is good, but the record doesn't account for timing very well and that is where Atia is constantly finding rumors twisting them to be more vague and then claiming them for himself as being first.

I guess wouldn't mind if he didn't constantly get high and mighty about rumors, everyone takes from everyone and very rarely is the credit given to the right person. I am sure he legitimately gets some good intel, but for the most part is piggybacking on other rumors. It is not like people with average rumor reader skills couldn't put two and two together with say 1ksons the minute Mark of the Wulfren dropped. I get it Atia enjoys bashing click bait sites like Spikeybits and BoLS and it is easy for everyone get behind that, but to pretend his gak don't stink is pretty hypocritical.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
just in time for the return of Cortez, now in plastic!

Don't you tease me! I would buy the ever-living gak out of a plastic Captain Cortez. Especially since it is heavily implied in the Deathwatch Codex that he is free from the Dark Eldar now. But how do you fit that much awesome in one character? EW, IWND, FNP?

No word from VeteranNoob yet. Stupid weather!

Orbital bombardment. Cortez jumps out of a ship entering orbit and crashes to earth at the exact point he intended. If you play the John Cena theme music, all hits cause instant death.

Joyboozer wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
just in time for the return of Cortez, now in plastic!

Don't you tease me! I would buy the ever-living gak out of a plastic Captain Cortez. Especially since it is heavily implied in the Deathwatch Codex that he is free from the Dark Eldar now. But how do you fit that much awesome in one character? EW, IWND, FNP?

No word from VeteranNoob yet. Stupid weather!

Orbital bombardment. Cortez jumps out of a ship entering orbit and crashes to earth at the exact point he intended. If you play the John Cena theme music, all hits cause instant death.

This would only work if Power Sunglasses fall from the sky after he lands and land perfectly on his face.

I suppose that if the 1st Company of Imperial Fists is wiped out to a man, but Lysander is alive, GW will probably make him Chapter Master like they did with Shrike. He probably won't be able to turn it down this time.