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Alright boys we're 5 days out, this is usually right around the time that we see what everyone's been waiting for. I know I'm not the only one that's going to be holding my breath for good formation rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5_qwMplh8o

greyfax

If some one can write it...

Thanks.

 ThirstySpaceMan wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Well, the thing with the LoTD is that once again GW ruined the mystery behind things (some time ago, too).

Spoiler:

LoTD are inflicted by some warp contagion that's slowly driving them mad and causing their bodies to decay.

That was their background from the start. How did they ruined a mystery when there wasn't one in the first place?

First codex LoD showed up In they were a mystery infuriating inquisition and any who drew close to them for farther investigation. Ghosting onto and off the battle field. Rumors they were the fire hawks? Chapter that was lost in the warp. Where did this warp contagion thing come from? Like Typhus? And terminus EST.? going mad? They seem tactically sound to me.

In my opinion the emporer is trying to make himself into a God of the warp and bring the fight to the chaos gods. Defintely not trying to destroy the warp. It took slannesh billions of psychic eldar souls to become a warp God. The emporer is just doing it another way by slowly letting mankind do it for him.

The emporer was never a god he was just the most powerful psyker who ever lived. Although he obviously has a power obsession. It seems whomever created the pylons (old ones) wanted to close and imprison the warp whereas the emporer embraced it maybe not the gods or entities that lived in the warp, but the emporer egotistically felt he could use and control it hence the mistake he made by creating a giant freakin warp tunnel in the heart of terra.

He may very well transcend someday and fight the chaos gods in the warp with his ghost marines, but I doubt he will ever become some kind benevolent god. Odds are once he achieves what he desires he will only use humanity for his own needs. There really is no classical good guys in 40k. Most races are good in thier own way and messed up in others. Even factions like tyranids are no more evil than a roach. They are just trying to survive.

Oh wow. Cawl's canticles affect all armies of the imperium? Like increasing BS, restoring HP or giving an invul? And he has a giant melta murder-gun? And he is stocked with tons of other cool machinery?
Triple nice.

Also those are definitely shotgun-armed ruststalkers beside hip but I'd expect them to be just the artist drawing whatever he wants.

gungo wrote:
In my opinion the emporer is trying to make himself into a God of the warp and bring the fight to the chaos gods. Defintely not trying to destroy the warp. It took slannesh billions of psychic eldar souls to become a warp God. The emporer is just doing it another way by slowly letting mankind do it for him.

The emporer was never a god he was just the most powerful psyker who ever lived. Although he obviously has a power obsession. It seems whomever created the pylons (old ones) wanted to close and imprison the warp whereas the emporer embraced it maybe not the gods or entities that lived in the warp, but the emporer egotistically felt he could use and control it hence the mistake he made by creating a giant freakin warp tunnel in the heart of terra.

He may very well transcend someday and fight the chaos gods in the warp with his ghost marines, but I doubt he will ever become some kind benevolent god. Odds are once he achieves what he desires he will only use humanity for his own needs. There really is no classical good guys in 40k. Most races are good in thier own way and messed up in others. Even factions like tyranids are no more evil than a roach. They are just trying to survive.

That's not the Emperor's plan at all, as there is tons of fluff out there in the Horus Heresy series the detail his goal.

Greyfax:

- MC Condemnor Boltgun
- MC Power Sword
- Power Armor
- Psyk-Out Grenades
- Psyocculum
- ML 2
- Aura of Oppression (WC2?): Opponent takes a pinning test. Even if successful, can't sweep, run, can't turbo-boost, can't fire overwatch. Can be WC3 to affect all enemies in 12".
- Indomitable Will: Counts as Higher Mastery when Denying the Witch

Triumvirate
- Any of the three can be taken with any Army of the Imperium
- Can use all three Warlord Traits
- Unit within range of 2 of 3, ignore pinning and stubborn
- Unit within range of all 3, fearless.


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Liberal_Perturabo wrote:
Oh wow. Cawl's canticles affect all armies of the imperium? Like increasing BS, restoring HP or giving an invul? And he has a giant melta murder-gun? And he is stocked with tons of other cool machinery?
Triple nice.

Also those are definitely shotgun-armed ruststalkers beside hip but I'd expect them to be just the artist drawing whatever he wants.

Looks like it affects all Imperials but it doesn't get better without more Cult Mech.

I may try and nab Greyfax... She sounds really useful!

 pretre wrote:
Greyfax:

- MC Condemnor Boltgun
- MC Power Sword
- Power Armor
- Psyk-Out Grenades
- Psyocculum
- ML 2
- Aura of Oppression (WC2?): Opponent takes a pinning test. Even if successful, can't sweep, run, can't turbo-boost, can't fire overwatch. Can be WC3 to affect all enemies in 12".
- Indomitable Will: Counts as Higher Mastery when Denying the Witch

Triumvirate
- Any of the three can be taken with any Army of the Imperium
- Can use all three Warlord Traits
- Unit within range of 2 of 3, ignore pinning and stubborn
- Unit within range of all 3, fearless.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

Liberal_Perturabo wrote:
Oh wow. Cawl's canticles affect all armies of the imperium? Like increasing BS, restoring HP or giving an invul? And he has a giant melta murder-gun? And he is stocked with tons of other cool machinery?
Triple nice.

Also those are definitely shotgun-armed ruststalkers beside hip but I'd expect them to be just the artist drawing whatever he wants.

Looks like it affects all Imperials but it doesn't get better without more Cult Mech.

Yesss....more leaks.

I don't think it counts as a leak if they publish it in an official video. I just copied down what the dude said in the video.

Ah, seems greyfax got more specific information than Cawl did in her video

If GW keeps releasing these great minis, we'll go broke!

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 ThirstySpaceMan wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Well, the thing with the LoTD is that once again GW ruined the mystery behind things (some time ago, too).

Spoiler:

LoTD are inflicted by some warp contagion that's slowly driving them mad and causing their bodies to decay.

That was their background from the start. How did they ruined a mystery when there wasn't one in the first place?

First codex LoD showed up In they were a mystery infuriating inquisition and any who drew close to them for farther investigation. Ghosting onto and off the battle field. Rumors they were the fire hawks? Chapter that was lost in the warp. Where did this warp contagion thing come from? Like Typhus? And terminus EST.? going mad? They seem tactically sound to me.

Spoiler:

They had a full background in WD 99 - including an ugly artwork and silly insignia. In short: they're the last survivors from the Fire Hawks and, like Matt.Kingsley wrote, infected with some kind of warp disease driving them mad and causing their bodies to decay. They now they're dying, but as Marines they want to fight as long as they're able to. A side effect of the disease making them Supermarines with increased stats and some special rules helps. They use the Tarot of the Emperor for their attacks to be in the right place at the right time and sometimes one of them goes berserk and dies afterwards.

To wit:



The change was making their background mysterious.

Yeah, "mysterioussss" has been a pattern at GW. Especially Forgeworld. The Fire Hawks, for example, were originally Ultramarines successors. Now? Mysterioussss.


Space Sharks? Mysteriousssss. Minotaurs? Double Secret Mysteriousssss. Red Scorpions? Mysteriousssss.

Not that others don't like to get in on the Mysterioussss. Blood Ravens from THQ. Storm Wardens from FFG.


It's why I always laugh when I read somebody's custom chapter fluff, and sho' nuff, just like everyone else, their snowflake chapter is from an unknown founding and mysterious geneseed, lol.

Already sold out of their current stock of Triumverate:

cool pic

 pretre wrote:
Already sold out of their current stock of Triumverate:

Well, then.

Glad I ordered one!

I ordered Saturday morning. I figured they would sell out by the end of Saturday. Surprised that stocks lasted til Monday.

Wulfey wrote:
I ordered Saturday morning. I figured they would sell out by the end of Saturday. Surprised that stocks lasted til Monday.

U.S. and GB have been sold out since yesterday afternoon.

Here's hoping the FLGS managed to secure one for me.

ERJAK wrote:

Wulfey wrote:
I ordered Saturday morning. I figured they would sell out by the end of Saturday. Surprised that stocks lasted til Monday.

U.S. and GB have been sold out since yesterday afternoon.

I pre-ordered on Saturday and had it directed to my FLGS 5 miles up the road. How does that store delivery thing work? It should be there this Saturday, right?

I wish GW would make more stock for these things!
Their pre-orders seem to go blindly fast!
:(

Wulfey wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

Wulfey wrote:
I ordered Saturday morning. I figured they would sell out by the end of Saturday. Surprised that stocks lasted til Monday.

U.S. and GB have been sold out since yesterday afternoon.

I pre-ordered on Saturday and had it directed to my FLGS 5 miles up the road. How does that store delivery thing work? It should be there this Saturday, right?

I believe so yes it should be. Just be warned, when you do this, the store owner looses a sale. They might not be happy about it. All you can say is because of the last few releases you were not sure he would be able to get a copy so you ordered it online and didn't want to take a chance he wouldn't be able to get you one.

I would call Customer Service and see what they say. They should know for sure if they all sold out and you didn't get screwed by a hic cup or anything like that. They can tell you if it will ship or not.

Wulfey wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

Wulfey wrote:
I ordered Saturday morning. I figured they would sell out by the end of Saturday. Surprised that stocks lasted til Monday.

U.S. and GB have been sold out since yesterday afternoon.

I pre-ordered on Saturday and had it directed to my FLGS 5 miles up the road. How does that store delivery thing work? It should be there this Saturday, right?

Did you have it delivered to a GW or a different shop?

If it's to a GW, expect a "talking to"(you having it delivered to the store doesn't count as a sale for the manager, but if you had gone in on Saturday morning and preodered it through the terminal in-store and had it delivered to your house but selected the "Pay In Store" option--it would count as a sale for the manager) but yeah your models will be there on Saturday assuming the weather didn't futz anything up.

If you had it delivered to an independent shop, I have no idea why you would do that instead of just having it shipped to your house/apartment.

 tirnaog wrote:
I wish GW would make more stock for these things!
Their pre-orders seem to go blindly fast!
:(

GW seem to be terrified of another Hobbit ltd edition/Khorne Bloodbound situation and are producing much smaller runs.

As an added bonus combine them limiting flgs supplies with the frenzy to buy right now that selling out regularly encourages and they are pushing a lot more sales through there stores.

Davor wrote:

Wulfey wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

Wulfey wrote:
I ordered Saturday morning. I figured they would sell out by the end of Saturday. Surprised that stocks lasted til Monday.

U.S. and GB have been sold out since yesterday afternoon.

I pre-ordered on Saturday and had it directed to my FLGS 5 miles up the road. How does that store delivery thing work? It should be there this Saturday, right?

I believe so yes it should be. Just be warned, when you do this, the store owner looses a sale. They might not be happy about it. All you can say is because of the last few releases you were not sure he would be able to get a copy so you ordered it online and didn't want to take a chance he wouldn't be able to get you one.

I would call Customer Service and see what they say. They should know for sure if they all sold out and you didn't get screwed by a hic cup or anything like that. They can tell you if it will ship or not.

Interesting. I wondered how that worked. I didn't trust FedEx (or UPS or something) to actually deliver the goods in a timely manner so I sent it to the store. I will probably buy something else while I am there based on the rules in that book. I have never made it out of that store for less that 80 bucks anyways.

EDIT: I also didn't go through webstores (like frontline) because I didn't trust the webstores to beat the backlog. I don't want to have to wait for another sprue production run with LVO coming up so fast.

EDIT2: It is a GW Official store with the big GW logo.

I assumed he ment GW store. But if it's a FLGS that is not a GW store, then yeah you might not get it at all. I never herd of shipping to a non GW store. So I assumed it was a GW store he was getting it shipped to. Yeah that makes a huge difference.

SeanDrake wrote:

 tirnaog wrote:
I wish GW would make more stock for these things!
Their pre-orders seem to go blindly fast!
:(

GW seem to be terrified of another Hobbit ltd edition/Khorne Bloodbound situation and are producing much smaller runs.

As an added bonus combine them limiting flgs supplies with the frenzy to buy right now that selling out regularly encourages and they are pushing a lot more sales through there stores.

Bingo. GW under produces on purpose to encourage impulse buying.

Thanks to all for explaining LotD to me. I personality like ghostly version over plague marines version. My head canon had them as echoes of fallen marines from the warp. Or the SM version of saint Celestin.

 ThirstySpaceMan wrote:
Thanks to all for explaining LotD to me. I personality like ghostly version over plague marines version. My head canon had them as echoes of fallen marines from the warp. Or the SM version of saint Celestin.

I actually think of them as the SM version of Thousand Sons. Supernatural, 3++, special shooting rule.
Just without the psykers.