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 Breotan wrote:
 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Trump isnt a poster on this forum, rule # 1 doesnt apply to us calling him a scumbag when hes the topic of political conversation.

I suggest you take a few moments and refresh yourself about the rules of decorum Yakface set up for this site.

 yakface wrote:
HOWEVER, please be aware that all of the other normal rules for the site apply. In particular that means you still need to be polite and friendly, even when discussing such hot topics as politics and religion.




But I'm not being rude to other posters though

Anyways, off topic, apologies for the derailment.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
 WrentheFaceless wrote:

Speaking of, who's ready for the official @POTUS twitter to be Trumped?
Apparently he will not be using it and will continue to use his existing account.


Nobody should be surprised that he's chosen to keep using the twitter feed branded with his name instead of the one that uses his prestigious but generic job title.

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 LordofHats wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:
It's not public education that I'm opposed to. It's the Federal government being involved in it that I have a problem with.


I just think it's a very funny piece of trivia

There's a similar one with the railroads; Mid 18th century Republicans were real big on expanding the railroad, so railroads got huge amounts of public money to make more railroads, and continued to get massive subsidies up until WWII when the Republicans decided Highways were better and then blasted the railroads for wasting public funds for years and asked why the Federal government was spending so much money on corporate welfare (while proposing huge subsidies and tax breaks for the fledgling trucking industry) XD




Yep, good old politics. Even within the powers and responsibilities delegated to the Federal government, it has a bad tendency to rear it's ugly head.


The Feds have a responsibility to maintain highways and rail lines in the interests if Interstate Commerce. Not hand out money to big corporations, other than to contract them to maintain said highways and railroads if needed.


I hate corporate welfare with a bloody passion.


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 jasper76 wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
There's nothing wrong about federal education standards, unless your teachers and students are too dumb to meet them. So grab yourself up by the bootstraps and stop whining.




There is plenty wrong with Federal education standards, especially when it comes to the involvement of Federal politics, Federal money, and Federal overreach outside of their Constitutionally enumerated powers.



Please elaborate.

Where does the rubber grind the road with federal education standards?





1. I'm big on the founding concept of "federalism" (the division of power between the States and Federal levels of government).

2. As for the rest, Prestor Jon pretty much echos my sentiments on accountability.

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 WrentheFaceless wrote:
True, but I'm calling the Overripe Orange in Chief names, no one else.


Indeed.

That said if one is trying to converse with others then it's probably worth sometimes not calling him/her/whoever X/Y/Z a name or insulting them as that is unlikely to really help any debate along or encourage others to engage with you either.

Can you him a scumbag/similar ? Yes -- of course.

But -- and this is a general point and not aimed solely at you but forum members in general --- if one is only chipping to post insults or slag off X/Y Z then there's a good chance you're not really adding anything to a conversation.

I understand people will & do get a bit carried away or swept along -- and we try to make allowances for that.

..People, at least try and be clever about what you say.

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 Breotan wrote:
 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Trump isnt a poster on this forum, rule # 1 doesnt apply to us calling him a scumbag when hes the topic of political conversation.

I suggest you take a few moments and refresh yourself about the rules of decorum Yakface set up for this site.

 yakface wrote:
HOWEVER, please be aware that all of the other normal rules for the site apply. In particular that means you still need to be polite and friendly, even when discussing such hot topics as politics and religion.




Once again trump is not a poster so the sites rules do not apply to him

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Apparently the Department of Energy has updated their rules to effectively outlaw the three-way bulb. This doesn't affect me because I've been swapping out all my existing bulbs for LEDs but I remember those adjustable lamps we used to have when I was younger.

So, are any of you affected by this? Are you going to march in the streets because your lamps aren't fully functional any more? Will you write the President and demand he make your light bulbs great again? ;P


 
   
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 Ustrello wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Trump isnt a poster on this forum, rule # 1 doesnt apply to us calling him a scumbag when hes the topic of political conversation.

I suggest you take a few moments and refresh yourself about the rules of decorum Yakface set up for this site.

 yakface wrote:
HOWEVER, please be aware that all of the other normal rules for the site apply. In particular that means you still need to be polite and friendly, even when discussing such hot topics as politics and religion.




Once again trump is not a poster so the sites rules do not apply to him


Neither is Inmate Manning, but make sure you use the correct gender pronouns for that deeply troubled individual.

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 Breotan wrote:
Apparently the Department of Energy has updated their rules to effectively outlaw the three-way bulb. This doesn't affect me because I've been swapping out all my existing bulbs for LEDs but I remember those adjustable lamps we used to have when I was younger.

So, are any of you affected by this? Are you going to march in the streets because your lamps aren't fully functional any more? Will you write the President and demand he make your light bulbs great again? ;P



This is the sort of micromanagement I am talking about.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
 WrentheFaceless wrote:

Speaking of, who's ready for the official @POTUS twitter to be Trumped?

Apparently he will not be using it and will continue to use his existing account.

As long as he doesn't set that account up on a private Twitter server he should be okay, shouldn't he?


 
   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
There's nothing wrong about federal education standards, unless your teachers and students are too dumb to meet them. So grab yourself up by the bootstraps and stop whining.




There is plenty wrong with Federal education standards, especially when it comes to the involvement of Federal politics, Federal money, and Federal overreach outside of their Constitutionally enumerated powers.


And as for the last part, I won't bite. Some seem to forget that OT is on probation. So, let's drop the attitude and keep it purely civil.


What makes State Politics, State money, and state overreach any better?





The States are "closer" (for want of a better term) to the voting, taxpaying public than the Federal government , thus it's easier to call them into account for their nonsense. Unlike Washington D.C., which involves living with screw jobs until the next election cycle and HOPE (key word here) that people will be voted in that will undo (or lessen the impact of) said screw job(s). Unfortunately, that doesn't always work. At least on the State level, we can grill the hell out of the politicos and their appointed cronies with some serious heat. The State reps have to go home sometime when the legislatures are not in session. That means having to face their constituencies personally.

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Would be interesting to see Kim Jong troll his Twitter feed.

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 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
I got nothing against Trump, but his speech was just bad. The man just isn't good with speeching. He could have done a lot better.


He doesn't seem comfortable reading prepared material...he kind of clams up.

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Prestor Jon wrote:
 Vaktathi wrote:
 WrentheFaceless wrote:

Speaking of, who's ready for the official @POTUS twitter to be Trumped?
Apparently he will not be using it and will continue to use his existing account.


Nobody should be surprised that he's chosen to keep using the twitter feed branded with his name instead of the one that uses his prestigious but generic job title.


Well, there is @POTUS, which has already been changed from Obama to Trump, and which was used by Obama for "official" tweets. And even Obama still had @Potus44 for more "personal" tweets, and @BarackObama for "professional" tweets.
   
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tneva82 wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:
It's always been like this every since the Federal government decided to stick it's nasty paws into what is essentially a State and local matter (education), playing fast and loose with the Interstate Commerce Clause to justify it. It's mostly just a means for cynical/greedy politicians to score brownie points with voters during Federal elections.

There have been calls to get the Feds out of the education business since the 1980's. And in my view, it's long overdue.


Good to know you hate children in poorer states then.





Not an argument. And I'm not going to bite.



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 oldravenman3025 wrote:
 Dreadwinter wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
There's nothing wrong about federal education standards, unless your teachers and students are too dumb to meet them. So grab yourself up by the bootstraps and stop whining.




There is plenty wrong with Federal education standards, especially when it comes to the involvement of Federal politics, Federal money, and Federal overreach outside of their Constitutionally enumerated powers.


And as for the last part, I won't bite. Some seem to forget that OT is on probation. So, let's drop the attitude and keep it purely civil.


What makes State Politics, State money, and state overreach any better?





The States are "closer" (for want of a better term) to the voting, taxpaying public than the Federal government , thus it's easier to call them into account for their nonsense. Unlike Washington D.C., which involves living with screw jobs until the next election cycle and HOPE (key word here) that people will be voted in that will undo (or lessen the impact of) said screw job(s). Unfortunately, that doesn't always work. At least on the State level, we can grill the hell out of the politicos and their appointed cronies with some serious heat. The State reps have to go home sometime when the legislatures are not in session. That means having to face their constituencies personally.
one would think, but there are lots of examples of states not having their gak together or doing actively counterproductive things, everything behind Brown vs Board of Education being a prime example.

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I can't tell but it looked like someone was talking to him. That bit where Hillary stares at him is funny though.



 
   
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 oldravenman3025 wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:
It's always been like this every since the Federal government decided to stick it's nasty paws into what is essentially a State and local matter (education), playing fast and loose with the Interstate Commerce Clause to justify it. It's mostly just a means for cynical/greedy politicians to score brownie points with voters during Federal elections.

There have been calls to get the Feds out of the education business since the 1980's. And in my view, it's long overdue.


Good to know you hate children in poorer states then.





Not an argument. And I'm not going to bite.




Considering that is exactly what Kansas has done, no it is an argument. Do you think it is right for children to go to school only 3 days a week while the rest are going to 5? Or should they just start preparing to work low wage jobs or take over the family farm?

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I was about to post this. Pretty hilarious. Going to be a great .gif after some effects are added.

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So, as a non-American, this is my interpretation of Trump's speech.

Spoiler:



An isolationist, protectionist America it is then.

I suppose, looking on the bright side... It might help the UK in the Brexit negotiations if Europe knows they can no longer depend on America for, well pretty much anything, really.

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Given that the UK seems to be on a similar trajectory with the Brexit vote, it should be scaring us all

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Here's the text to the speech:
Spoiler:
Chief Justice Roberts, President Carter, President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, fellow Americans, and people of the world: thank you.

We, the citizens of America, are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and to restore its promise for all of our people.

Together, we will determine the course of America and the world for years to come.

We will face challenges. We will confront hardships. But we will get the job done.

Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent.

Today’s ceremony, however, has very special meaning. Because today we are not merely transferring power from one Administration to another, or from one party to another – but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People.

For too long, a small group in our nation’s Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost.

Washington flourished – but the people did not share in its wealth.

Politicians prospered – but the jobs left, and the factories closed.

The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country.

Their victories have not been your victories; their triumphs have not been your triumphs; and while they celebrated in our nation’s Capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

That all changes – starting right here, and right now, because this moment is your moment: it belongs to you.

It belongs to everyone gathered here today and everyone watching all across America.

This is your day. This is your celebration.

And this, the United States of America, is your country.

What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people.

January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.

The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.

Everyone is listening to you now.

You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement the likes of which the world has never seen before.

At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction: that a nation exists to serve its citizens.

Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families, and good jobs for themselves.

These are the just and reasonable demands of a righteous public.

But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists: Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation; an education system, flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge; and the crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.

This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

We are one nation – and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams; and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home, and one glorious destiny.

The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans.

For many decades, we’ve enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry;

Subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military;

We've defended other nation’s borders while refusing to defend our own;

And spent trillions of dollars overseas while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay.

We’ve made other countries rich while the wealth, strength, and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon.

One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind.

The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world.

But that is the past. And now we are looking only to the future.

We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital, and in every hall of power.

From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land.

From this moment on, it’s going to be America First.

Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs, will be made to benefit American workers and American families.

We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength.

I will fight for you with every breath in my body – and I will never, ever let you down.

America will start winning again, winning like never before.

We will bring back our jobs. We will bring back our borders. We will bring back our wealth. And we will bring back our dreams.

We will build new roads, and highways, and bridges, and airports, and tunnels, and railways all across our wonderful nation.

We will get our people off of welfare and back to work – rebuilding our country with American hands and American labor.

We will follow two simple rules: Buy American and Hire American.

We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world – but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first.

We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to follow.

We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones – and unite the civilized world against Radical Islamic Terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth.

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

The Bible tells us, “how good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity.”

We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity.

When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.

There should be no fear – we are protected, and we will always be protected.

We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.

Finally, we must think big and dream even bigger.

In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving.

We will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action – constantly complaining but never doing anything about it.

The time for empty talk is over.

Now arrives the hour of action.

Do not let anyone tell you it cannot be done. No challenge can match the heart and fight and spirit of America.

We will not fail. Our country will thrive and prosper again.

We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the Earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the energies, industries and technologies of tomorrow.

A new national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights, and heal our divisions.

It is time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget: that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots, we all enjoy the same glorious freedoms, and we all salute the same great American Flag.

And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty Creator.

So to all Americans, in every city near and far, small and large, from mountain to mountain, and from ocean to ocean, hear these words:

You will never be ignored again.

Your voice, your hopes, and your dreams, will define our American destiny. And your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us along the way.

Together, We Will Make America Strong Again.

We Will Make America Wealthy Again.

We Will Make America Proud Again.

We Will Make America Safe Again.

And, Yes, Together, We Will Make America Great Again. Thank you, God Bless You, And God Bless America.

"When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." That's powerful... let's hold him to that... cool?

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 Brother SRM wrote:
 Stevefamine wrote:

Great speech on the otherhand. I love the nationalism tone it had

With nationalism being one of the chief reasons for the first World War and god knows how many other conflicts, I disagree. Nationalism is not a good thing, and it's not the same as merely loving your country.


Firstly, I think it was a great speech, but everyone have its opinion, and I'm ok with this. It was exactly what I wanted to hear.

Then: I do think the lack of nationalism is what has gotten us where we are now, and its responsible for a lot of troubles of today.

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According to MSN.com, "The effort to impeach President Donald John Trump is already underway."

Did liberals learn nothing from the failed Republican effort to impeach President Clinton? You can't bring petty stuff like this against a President when his party controls the Senate. The Republicans got punished by the voters when they tried this stunt and it will backfire if the Democrats try it now.

You want the President (any President) impeached? You better have something serious and you better be able to prove it. Anything less and the voters will punish you for grandstanding.



 
   
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 jasper76 wrote:
I get the eerie feeling that all of this isolationism is going to end up with me paying $50 for a tube of toothpaste.

But you will earn a lot more, so...

   
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 Vaktathi wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:
 Dreadwinter wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
There's nothing wrong about federal education standards, unless your teachers and students are too dumb to meet them. So grab yourself up by the bootstraps and stop whining.




There is plenty wrong with Federal education standards, especially when it comes to the involvement of Federal politics, Federal money, and Federal overreach outside of their Constitutionally enumerated powers.


And as for the last part, I won't bite. Some seem to forget that OT is on probation. So, let's drop the attitude and keep it purely civil.


What makes State Politics, State money, and state overreach any better?





The States are "closer" (for want of a better term) to the voting, taxpaying public than the Federal government , thus it's easier to call them into account for their nonsense. Unlike Washington D.C., which involves living with screw jobs until the next election cycle and HOPE (key word here) that people will be voted in that will undo (or lessen the impact of) said screw job(s). Unfortunately, that doesn't always work. At least on the State level, we can grill the hell out of the politicos and their appointed cronies with some serious heat. The State reps have to go home sometime when the legislatures are not in session. That means having to face their constituencies personally.
one would think, but there are lots of examples of states not having their gak together or doing actively counterproductive things, everything behind Brown vs Board of Education being a prime example.





They are definitely not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, they are also masters of the screw job.


With the example you cited, some forget that it was the U.S. Supreme Court that originally ruled that segregation was acceptable under the 10th and 14th Amendments, as long as it was "separate but equal". And segregation lasted so long on the State level because the constituency (the white voters, at least, who were in the majority) of various jurisdictions tended to either support it, or didn't care either way. They didn't see no reason to change things, or didn't care to push against it. If there is one thing I despise in the political landscape, it's apathy.

So, it took a different Supreme Court (the Marshall Court) to rule on it again in the 1950s, and found it was in violation of the 14th Amendment, and rightly so as long as the 14th continues to exist. But that doesn't mean that the Feds have the right to trample all over federalism when it suits them. Only when it's within it's authority to do so (as was the case in Brown versus Board of Education).

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 Vaktathi wrote:
Given that the UK seems to be on a similar trajectory with the Brexit vote, it should be scaring us all


Kind of, but without going too off-topic. While Brexit was certainly a nationalistic/popularistic movement, ala Trump, so far, at least, the Trump-like personalities in British politics have been given relatively short shrift.

So far.

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 whembly wrote:
Here's the text to the speech:
Spoiler:
Chief Justice Roberts, President Carter, President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, fellow Americans, and people of the world: thank you.

We, the citizens of America, are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and to restore its promise for all of our people.

Together, we will determine the course of America and the world for years to come.

We will face challenges. We will confront hardships. But we will get the job done.

Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent.

Today’s ceremony, however, has very special meaning. Because today we are not merely transferring power from one Administration to another, or from one party to another – but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People.

For too long, a small group in our nation’s Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost.

Washington flourished – but the people did not share in its wealth.

Politicians prospered – but the jobs left, and the factories closed.

The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country.

Their victories have not been your victories; their triumphs have not been your triumphs; and while they celebrated in our nation’s Capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

That all changes – starting right here, and right now, because this moment is your moment: it belongs to you.

It belongs to everyone gathered here today and everyone watching all across America.

This is your day. This is your celebration.

And this, the United States of America, is your country.

What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people.

January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.

The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.

Everyone is listening to you now.

You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement the likes of which the world has never seen before.

At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction: that a nation exists to serve its citizens.

Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families, and good jobs for themselves.

These are the just and reasonable demands of a righteous public.

But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists: Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation; an education system, flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge; and the crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.

This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

We are one nation – and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams; and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home, and one glorious destiny.

The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans.

For many decades, we’ve enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry;

Subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military;

We've defended other nation’s borders while refusing to defend our own;

And spent trillions of dollars overseas while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay.

We’ve made other countries rich while the wealth, strength, and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon.

One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind.

The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world.

But that is the past. And now we are looking only to the future.

We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital, and in every hall of power.

From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land.

From this moment on, it’s going to be America First.

Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs, will be made to benefit American workers and American families.

We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength.

I will fight for you with every breath in my body – and I will never, ever let you down.

America will start winning again, winning like never before.

We will bring back our jobs. We will bring back our borders. We will bring back our wealth. And we will bring back our dreams.

We will build new roads, and highways, and bridges, and airports, and tunnels, and railways all across our wonderful nation.

We will get our people off of welfare and back to work – rebuilding our country with American hands and American labor.

We will follow two simple rules: Buy American and Hire American.

We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world – but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first.

We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to follow.

We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones – and unite the civilized world against Radical Islamic Terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth.

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

The Bible tells us, “how good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity.”

We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity.

When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.

There should be no fear – we are protected, and we will always be protected.

We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.

Finally, we must think big and dream even bigger.

In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving.

We will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action – constantly complaining but never doing anything about it.

The time for empty talk is over.

Now arrives the hour of action.

Do not let anyone tell you it cannot be done. No challenge can match the heart and fight and spirit of America.

We will not fail. Our country will thrive and prosper again.

We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the Earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the energies, industries and technologies of tomorrow.

A new national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights, and heal our divisions.

It is time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget: that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots, we all enjoy the same glorious freedoms, and we all salute the same great American Flag.

And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty Creator.

So to all Americans, in every city near and far, small and large, from mountain to mountain, and from ocean to ocean, hear these words:

You will never be ignored again.

Your voice, your hopes, and your dreams, will define our American destiny. And your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us along the way.

Together, We Will Make America Strong Again.

We Will Make America Wealthy Again.

We Will Make America Proud Again.

We Will Make America Safe Again.

And, Yes, Together, We Will Make America Great Again. Thank you, God Bless You, And God Bless America.

"When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." That's powerful... let's hold him to that... cool?


I like it. I will do my part to make America Fatter Again!

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 whembly wrote:
Here's the text to the speech:
Spoiler:
Chief Justice Roberts, President Carter, President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, fellow Americans, and people of the world: thank you.

We, the citizens of America, are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and to restore its promise for all of our people.

Together, we will determine the course of America and the world for years to come.

We will face challenges. We will confront hardships. But we will get the job done.

Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent.

Today’s ceremony, however, has very special meaning. Because today we are not merely transferring power from one Administration to another, or from one party to another – but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People.

For too long, a small group in our nation’s Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost.

Washington flourished – but the people did not share in its wealth.

Politicians prospered – but the jobs left, and the factories closed.

The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country.

Their victories have not been your victories; their triumphs have not been your triumphs; and while they celebrated in our nation’s Capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

That all changes – starting right here, and right now, because this moment is your moment: it belongs to you.

It belongs to everyone gathered here today and everyone watching all across America.

This is your day. This is your celebration.

And this, the United States of America, is your country.

What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people.

January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.

The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.

Everyone is listening to you now.

You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement the likes of which the world has never seen before.

At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction: that a nation exists to serve its citizens.

Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families, and good jobs for themselves.

These are the just and reasonable demands of a righteous public.

But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists: Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation; an education system, flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge; and the crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.

This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

We are one nation – and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams; and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home, and one glorious destiny.

The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans.

For many decades, we’ve enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry;

Subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military;

We've defended other nation’s borders while refusing to defend our own;

And spent trillions of dollars overseas while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay.

We’ve made other countries rich while the wealth, strength, and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon.

One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind.

The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world.

But that is the past. And now we are looking only to the future.

We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital, and in every hall of power.

From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land.

From this moment on, it’s going to be America First.

Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs, will be made to benefit American workers and American families.

We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength.

I will fight for you with every breath in my body – and I will never, ever let you down.

America will start winning again, winning like never before.

We will bring back our jobs. We will bring back our borders. We will bring back our wealth. And we will bring back our dreams.

We will build new roads, and highways, and bridges, and airports, and tunnels, and railways all across our wonderful nation.

We will get our people off of welfare and back to work – rebuilding our country with American hands and American labor.

We will follow two simple rules: Buy American and Hire American.

We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world – but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first.

We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to follow.

We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones – and unite the civilized world against Radical Islamic Terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth.

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

The Bible tells us, “how good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity.”

We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity.

When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.

There should be no fear – we are protected, and we will always be protected.

We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.

Finally, we must think big and dream even bigger.

In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving.

We will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action – constantly complaining but never doing anything about it.

The time for empty talk is over.

Now arrives the hour of action.

Do not let anyone tell you it cannot be done. No challenge can match the heart and fight and spirit of America.

We will not fail. Our country will thrive and prosper again.

We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the Earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the energies, industries and technologies of tomorrow.

A new national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights, and heal our divisions.

It is time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget: that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots, we all enjoy the same glorious freedoms, and we all salute the same great American Flag.

And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty Creator.

So to all Americans, in every city near and far, small and large, from mountain to mountain, and from ocean to ocean, hear these words:

You will never be ignored again.

Your voice, your hopes, and your dreams, will define our American destiny. And your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us along the way.

Together, We Will Make America Strong Again.

We Will Make America Wealthy Again.

We Will Make America Proud Again.

We Will Make America Safe Again.

And, Yes, Together, We Will Make America Great Again. Thank you, God Bless You, And God Bless America.

"When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." That's powerful... let's hold him to that... cool?
I'm all on board for holding him to this.

I'm just stunned by the overwhelming wall of irony given his leading roll in creating all of the exact things he is bemoaning. Having his clothing line made overseas, stiffing local US suppliers and creating hellish situations for tenants of his properties, avoiding payment of taxes, getting gigantic contracts handed to him on a silver platter to build his empire because of daddys connections, etc ad nauseum.


 Compel wrote:
 Vaktathi wrote:
Given that the UK seems to be on a similar trajectory with the Brexit vote, it should be scaring us all


Kind of, but without going too off-topic. While Brexit was certainly a nationalistic/popularistic movement, ala Trump, so far, at least, the Trump-like personalities in British politics have been given relatively short shrift.

So far.
that might be fair, but Johnson and Nigel arent too far out in the wings either

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