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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 17:35:31
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Some of this was covered in the big combined GW White Dwarf thread, and some in the AoS thread, but there's so much (and much of it usable in both 40K and AoS) that it needs its own space!
Brand new sculpts:
Lord of Change: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/lord-of-change-2016
Fateweaver: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Kairos-Fateweaver-2017
Blue Horrors and Brimstone Horrors: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/blue-horrors-2016
The Changeling: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/the-changeling-2016
Recently released new sculpts:
And there's quite a few re-released resins, too! If you want to peruse the full pre-order / new release list, check it out on the GW site:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Warhammer?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102281+586364842+4071700139+3252425321&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat440002a-flat
What a fantastic time to be a daemons player with an eye (or three) towards "change"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 17:39:21
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Which of these is actually new? Blues and LoC only right? Oh and Changeling?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 17:40:58
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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MajorTom11 wrote:Which of these is actually new? Blues and LoC only right? Oh and Changeling?
Correct. All the others are existing kits, just repackaged for AoS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 17:58:49
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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That's funny, I actually thought the Changeling was a re-release, but you're right, it's a new sculpt!
Changeling: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/the-changeling-2016
I've re-organized the OP and spoilered the recent releases (but still quite new, and I didn't think available separately until recently?). Any oversights, let me know and I'll edit
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2017/01/28 18:19:28
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 18:14:25
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Gotta say, the changeling for me is possibly one of the best new sculpts they have done.
No overdone effects, no clunky proportions, great detail that doesn't bury the model.
I don't play tzeentch but I'm happily buying it to paint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 18:19:06
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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Oh my. What beautiful minis. I will say GW has out done themselves. Really great job GW. Need to give you credit when credit is due.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 18:22:14
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Agree... they have been batting it out of the park nearly 98% of the time for over a year now (on the minis front, painter not layer). Good for you GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 18:22:26
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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My wife collects Tzeentch and she and I both are drooling over all the new fantastic sculpts and the great bundles.
I'm preordering the Changehost now.
Damn you GW and your new awesome business practices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 18:24:37
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Yeah, it's cool to see them offering little mini bundles (like 4 of the Tzaangors on discs and 10 of the Tzaangors on foot). Honestly, I had completely moved on from GW until this past year, and now I've got a large 30K army in the works... well done, Rountree!
...now about those rules...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 18:26:15
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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I too was immediately struck by the new changeling, though it is all cool stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 18:38:34
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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RiTides wrote:Yeah, it's cool to see them offering little mini bundles (like 4 of the Tzaangors on discs and 10 of the Tzaangors on foot). Honestly, I had completely moved on from GW until this past year, and now I've got a large 30K army in the works... well done, Rountree!
...now about those rules... 
Is this a bundle that saves you money? You have a link for it? Might consider it if I have the funds.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 19:29:52
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Probably old news by now, but the Star Collecting Tzeentch bundle might be the most cost effective one yet £80 of stuff for £50. And on top of that, the chariot kit goes a long way on its own - 3 additional horrors and a herald to boot.
EDIT: You get the whole chariot kit, my bad.
Also, the Tzaangors on discs could make nice Heralds for a good price provided they don't get their own rules in 40k,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 19:37:49
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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The exalted flamer is not on its own.
It's the actual chariot kit.
They have advertised the same model a few times as each separate possible build.
The chariot kit it's self is one of the best value kits you can get.
No matter how you assemble it you get spare stuff.
I use them for heralds on a disc.
I then get 2 screamers, 4 blue horrors and an exalted flamer.
All for £25
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 19:51:16
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Davor - Ah, I think it is indeed just the Start Collecting bundle that saves money. Sneaky, that! Can't have a full GW reformation all at once
That one is here:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Start-Collecting-Daemons-of-Tzeentch
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 20:13:57
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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Must resist, want Custodes... xD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 20:46:51
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thank you very much. I wasn't going to get this but get a few of what is in there separately, but now see this is the better way to go.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Can someone explain this to me please. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Changehost (Canadian prices  )
In there is a pic of an Exalted Flamer of Tzneech. Thing is, I don't see it in the description. So is this or is this not part of the Changehost?
I see the Changehost sold separately but I don't see it in a package or the Start Collecting box. Have I made a mistake somewhere or did GW make a mistake?
If I bought this and no Exalted Flamer of Tzneech is included I be miffed. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also is anyone else getting an HTTP error when clicking on the rules for the minis?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/01/28 20:54:26
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 21:46:36
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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The exalted flamer is part of the chariot kit.
So if you run a herald on chariot, the flamer is spare so can be used.
For ease of other people aswell:
Chariot kit / herald on chariot / flamer are all the same kit.
In the box you get:
Exalted flamer
Tzeentch herald
4 blue horrors
2 screamers
Disc of tzeentch
This means that you can assemble those in any of the configurations you want.
So if you run it as a flamer chariot, you get a herald on foot spare.
If you run a herald on chariot, you get the horrors and flamer spare.
If you just have a herald on disc, you get all of it except the herald and disc spare.
Value for money it's always been a great kit for extras.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 21:53:18
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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This must be the most fleshed out daemon horde I've seen from GW, possibly ever. The massive combinatinon of all the separate kits. Add the 40K options to it and it's even more ridiculous.
It's so nice to see Tzeentch finally get proper support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 21:59:20
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just wish I knew which will be the new exotic adversaries for Silver Tower... :-/ stooped wait for Feb's White Dwarf.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 23:12:27
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Darn it, after making this thread and looking at all the awesome models, I went out and picked up the Ogrid from my local GW
It really is sweet! I have a conversion in mind for it, but what a fantastic starting point
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 23:16:21
Subject: Re:New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Tzeentch never been something I wanted before but these new kits may change that.
Spectacular display of quality and quantity.
Nothing but positive feelings towards GW in 2017.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 23:18:13
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Damn you GW!!
If I'd known they were replacing Kairos, I wouldnt have bought the finecast one late last year.
On the plus side, I did get the pinks horrors, flamers and chariot for less, as the prices have now gone up! New packaging must be expensive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 23:22:12
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Executing Exarch
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Fictional wrote:Damn you GW!!
If I'd known they were replacing Kairos, I wouldnt have bought the finecast one late last year.
On the plus side, I did get the pinks horrors, flamers and chariot for less, as the prices have now gone up! New packaging must be expensive.
Actually you didn't... they would've been even cheaper had you waited for the Start Collecting box
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/28 23:56:29
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Mymearan wrote:Actually you didn't... they would've been even cheaper had you waited for the Start Collecting box 
By a couple of bucks. The Star Collecting box for Tzeentch is only 'cheaper' because they raised the prices of all of its contents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/29 00:57:14
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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It's a shame they didn't rebox the Flamers & Screamer as 6 to a box with a slight discount. They've done this for several AoS reboxes so far. Sadly, I think this it the first price increase they've done in a while
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/29 01:29:55
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Mymearan wrote:Actually you didn't... they would've been even cheaper had you waited for the Start Collecting box 
By a couple of bucks. The Star Collecting box for Tzeentch is only 'cheaper' because they raised the prices of all of its contents.
This is not true. The box gives a discount of 20% to 30% over the old individual prices depending where you live. With the new prices the discount is 30 to 40%
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/29 02:01:21
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Mymearan wrote:Actually you didn't... they would've been even cheaper had you waited for the Start Collecting box 
By a couple of bucks. The Star Collecting box for Tzeentch is only 'cheaper' because they raised the prices of all of its contents.
Actually in the US the start collecting contents would have been 20, 30, 30, 40. So just under $120. So it would have been a 29% discount before. Now it's a 37% discount. And honestly 3 get starting boxes and a lord of change nets you a significant AoS daemon army. If you break the chariots down you've got 30 horrors, 12 blues, 9 flamers, 3 exalted flamers, 3 disc heralds, 15 screamers, and a loc.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/29 04:43:58
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thank you very much. Greatly appreciated. Now just need to talk to the wife to get that bundle or not.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/29 05:40:44
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Chikout wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote: Mymearan wrote:Actually you didn't... they would've been even cheaper had you waited for the Start Collecting box 
By a couple of bucks. The Star Collecting box for Tzeentch is only 'cheaper' because they raised the prices of all of its contents.
This is not true. The box gives a discount of 20% to 30% over the old individual prices depending where you live. With the new prices the discount is 30 to 40%
"... depending on where you live..."
Yeah, nice caveat there.
Someone here did the calculation. The savings were pathetic compared to the other Star Collecting boxes. It's only a saving now because they put the prices up on what's in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/29 06:04:57
Subject: New Tzeentch PreOrders from GW
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Chikout wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote: Mymearan wrote:Actually you didn't... they would've been even cheaper had you waited for the Start Collecting box 
By a couple of bucks. The Star Collecting box for Tzeentch is only 'cheaper' because they raised the prices of all of its contents.
This is not true. The box gives a discount of 20% to 30% over the old individual prices depending where you live. With the new prices the discount is 30 to 40%
"... depending on where you live..."
Yeah, nice caveat there.
Someone here did the calculation. The savings were pathetic compared to the other Star Collecting boxes. It's only a saving now because they put the prices up on what's in it.
I used the prices posted in the other thread that showed the new Zealand prices. There the start collecting is $165. The total price based on the old individual prices that someone posted in the other thread is $210. It is certainly on the lower end of the start collecting scale but it does have a 20% discount.
Another 3 Flamers would have sweetened the deal, but as the basis of an army or a cost effective way of adding all the exotic enemies to silver tower it is not bad.
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