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Joyboozer wrote:
I really hope the way this sells reflects the poor execution and not the lack of demand for non imperial terrain.

I may consider a set to support the non-imperial terrain. At some point I need to get some more of the tau defense line and basic wall of martyrs elements as well.

Pricing and paint are blah, but I actually like the rules- remind me a lot of the old deathworld stuff, good for more narrative games. Now GW just needs to fix their rules for basic terrain and ruins.

Not a fan of the paint jobs, that is a major issue I think. And we need more substantial LOS disrupting/blocking terrain.

I think I will get a set. I'll be putting them all on bases though.

 Nevelon wrote:
What? Are toothpicks stuck in styrofoam balls not good enough for deathworld terrain?

Kids these days...

Cannot exault this enough.

Remember when GW was selling $5 worth of aquarium plants for $40?

Good times, good times.

Honestly I can't make out enough from the pictures provided to make a decision whether I like them or not... I'll wait until I see at least the pictures from the shop page.

The barbed venomgorse should be renamed to 'blueberry bushes' cause I could see the rules for those being a 'thorn in the side' of a tau riptide wing

 generalchaos34 wrote:
No one is noting the angry forests combined with Eldar ruins could only mean something along the lines of Exodites? I believe they get do a good job defending their worlds because they turn the planet into a spirit matrix (world spirit) and have it animate plants and animals to fight invaders.

Exodites moved away from the Eldar empire, so they wouldn't have Eldar ruins on their planets.

As was noted elsewhere this is pretty spot on for Croneworld terrain (as the new book has them visiting a Croneworld that's pretty handy isn't it?!)

I'm in the disappointed camp here too. Lots of money for not very much :(

I just keep reading it as Venomgoose.

The strange colors and small pics don't help, but other than the critter looking thing with the tongue tentacle (which is cool), they look like someone just made a mess with putty. Like the eldar symbol piece. Wish they would do more like that and let us mess it up with green stuff and flock.

I kinda like them. If I only found motivation to paint my scenery.

They look stupid, and im sure will play really stupid in the rules. Worthless release

I really like the deathworld terrain myself, looks weird, ugly and alien, just like a deathworld should if you ask me.

Not sure what the poll is about, but I like the terrain. Seeing something different is refreshing. I'm excited to see how people will paint these up.

I think the first datasheet has an error in it. There's a huge white space and then it just says "test." Looks to be an oddly placed continuance of the terrain type text.

Even at half the price, this would seem expensive.

 Manchu wrote:
Even at half the price, this would seem expensive.

Aye. Aside from the eldar stuff* and certain details, it doesn't look much more than what a hobbyist could do with wire, papier mache, a bits box, and a mote of application.

* Although, maybe add 'plasticard' and 'a ruler' to that list.

Depends.

When it comes to scratch building, my hands might as well be feet - so I'm very much a fan of pre-made terrain :p

Though I get the seemingly marmite of this kit's aesthetics.

Some superb looking pieces imo but not as a total kit for 105 :(
Could do some really wicked Nid conversions / uses but other bits.....just dont fit :(

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Bloody hell! Those are awful, and the price tag adds insult to injury.

So has GW gotten better? They sure have taken stumble with price wise, and quality wise. I have to say this looks horrible and no way deserves a "premium" price.

OK. Who threw up their spaghetti over the Eldar Illuminati ruins?

What a waste of aluminum.
And time.

Is the worst parts of "Chaos" - GW's "lets just stick random teeth and tentacles on everything and call it day." And the price seems absurd for such spindly terrain.

I could see the value of this terrain if you were making some sort of alien swamp world, but that's a pretty specific thing. Otherwise... not that useful. I don't even think it looks that bad. I see what they were going for, but it's so limited in use.

Yeah, that price is really bad. Why would I go for that when I could buy a piece of the chaos dreadhold instead?

GW just needs to stay away from plant terrain models in general. Too easy to proxy and never impressive looking enough to justify buying it.

Now that we have proper pics... they're worse than I imagined.

Do not want

So much effort that could have been spent on several sprues of figures that would add 200% more to the game.

It has several conversion pieces for Tyranids, Sylvaneth and Daemons/Chaos Spawns (and two for Eldar), the parts are also good additions for other terrain pieces. While the components have potential the intended assemblage looks just crude. It's kind of a bitz source for different armies but with this price tag I don't see much commercial success.

I have to agree with some of the others that this terrain really is junk. It's something you throw in start collecting boxes for free like the olden days with our pine trees and such.

There are tons of things they could do to make non-Marine oriented terrain. Even a wrecked vehicle would be welcome at this point.

We just had Wrath of Magnus with Silver Towers that were thrown into the ground. Why not make a Fortress of Redemption sized piece that resembled a Silver Tower that stabbed into the ground?

A generic webway gate for crying out loud?

Even a giant pile of feces in the shape of Gork or Mork would have been a better use of time and money than this stuff :(

Seeing the full-size pics, I doubt I'd bother getting these table-ready if I got them for free.

Sadly the result of this will be "failed xenos terrain - no one wants it! Back to skuillthedralwall!"

I still plan to get them. A more subdued paint scene and bases and they will work well. Yes I would prefer cheaper, and more line of sight blocking, but I intend to support this effort for more varied terrain.

 Elbows wrote:
Sadly the result of this will be "failed xenos terrain - no one wants it! Back to skuillthedralwall!"

I hope not. I would love to see Tau and Ork offerings.