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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 10:57:06
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yesterday the Warhammer-Community website released part 1 of their HH: Inferno previews. There was an interesting photo showing several Space Wolves dropships including a new/updated version of the Thunderhawk.
Article: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/31/first-look-at-inferno/
Battle Bunnies posted a detailed comparison with the former kit:
http://battlebunnies.blogspot.de/2017/01/could-this-be-plastic-thunderhawk.html
There is a good chance this could be a teaser for an upcoming product. Made in resin or even plastic.
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This message was edited 7 times. Last update was at 2017/02/04 14:35:08
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 11:01:01
Subject: Re:A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Experienced Maneater
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Thunderhawk in plastic would be incredible. Not getting my hope up, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 11:04:05
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Looks like a CAD model in the pic - and given it's clearly been Photoshopped for cool, I wouldn't rule that out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 11:05:14
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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With the year of 40k's 30th anniversary and GW having bought new plastic production technology for larger kits ~2 years ago (see previous annual report) I think a plastic TH kit could actually come out in 2017
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 11:05:15
Subject: Re:A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Hanskrampf wrote:Thunderhawk in plastic would be incredible. Not getting my hope up, though.
I agree completely - a plastic TH would be an automatic buy for me...but not holding my breath...
Also, I think this has already been (very briefly) discussed in the general FW N&R thread...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 11:12:18
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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I disagree, given the sheer number of units that require either a miniature or an upgrade as their mini is so old, a thunderhawk seems like a massive waste of resources.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 11:21:51
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Experienced Maneater
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Joyboozer wrote:I disagree, given the sheer number of units that require either a miniature or an upgrade as their mini is so old, a thunderhawk seems like a massive waste of resources.
Like that ever was an argument for GW. The amount of kits they pumped out the last 1,5 years that were compeletely new kits is massive, while we still have fugly Khorne Berserkers or named character miniatures from the early 90s.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 11:30:37
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Joyboozer wrote:I disagree, given the sheer number of units that require either a miniature or an upgrade as their mini is so old, a thunderhawk seems like a massive waste of resources.
They have pretty much stopped producing upgraded kits. Well at least for anything but space marines that sell. Wouldn't surprise me if it's because they think existing kits remade don't sell enough since people wouldn't want to buy new versions of models they have.
Wouldn't surprise me if we never got new version of berserkers/ork boyz/ IG. At best we might get new khorne themed special unit for CSM's but no berserkers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 11:42:23
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It was brought up by Atia's War of Sigmar blog as well (posted by Bob), and they only report about stuff that is more than just some baseless speculation.
The other large kits like Stompa, the all-in-one-box-Shadowsword and Tesseract Vault have been released a while ago, 2013. So they had a lot of time to work on new super-heavy kits. Ishagu on B&C had rumored the possibility of a plastic Warhound.
GW could sell thousands of TH and other large plastic kits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 12:05:27
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Yup.
They're an attractive proposition, and a single kit covers all Space Marines, so that's a very large potential market.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 12:18:16
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Looks like a CAD model in the pic - and given it's clearly been Photoshopped for cool, I wouldn't rule that out.
That was my first thought. Something does look a little off about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 12:20:09
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Well here's hoping
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 13:08:34
Subject: Re:A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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A plastic Thunderhawk would be awesome. Honestly, it is probably just a resin refresh like what was done for the Tau flyer. But if it is, indeed, a plastic GW Thunderhawk, I know of at least two sales that would be guaranteed. My Crimson Fists and my brother's Dark Angels would definitely be getting one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 13:29:22
Subject: Re:A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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casvalremdeikun wrote:A plastic Thunderhawk would be awesome. Honestly, it is probably just a resin refresh like what was done for the Tau flyer. But if it is, indeed, a plastic GW Thunderhawk, I know of at least two sales that would be guaranteed. My Crimson Fists and my brother's Dark Angels would definitely be getting one.
Heresy. The new Barracuda design is radically different from the previous.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 13:50:00
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Cool looking display piece aside, do people think they have a spot in lists? I mean, I covet a plastic Thunderhawk as much as the next guy, but paying that many points for a flyer that starts in reserves seems a bit crazy. And that’s empty. Fill it up, and that’s most of your list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 13:52:21
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Regular Dakkanaut
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There are already so many units that don't belong on the tabletop it really doesnt matter at this point. GW is not going to attempt to keep any sort of balance in game play, that has been relegated to the players for awhile now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 13:53:45
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I do think a plastic Thunderhawk would sell. Particularly if it's priced anywhere under $200 - they'd sell them.
One thing I think would have been an interesting idea with things like the Thunderhawk...hybrid kits. It strikes me that laser-cut MDF kits combined with genuine resin bits would be an easy way to make a much cheaper/easier to assemble and less-heavy Thunderhawk.
While it wouldn't work for many things, I can't see too many pieces of the Thunderhawk (and similar super blocky designs) which couldn't benefit from large portions of precisely cute MDF --- then add all of the details/extras on as resin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 13:56:42
Subject: Re:A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Verviedi wrote: casvalremdeikun wrote:A plastic Thunderhawk would be awesome. Honestly, it is probably just a resin refresh like what was done for the Tau flyer. But if it is, indeed, a plastic GW Thunderhawk, I know of at least two sales that would be guaranteed. My Crimson Fists and my brother's Dark Angels would definitely be getting one.
Heresy. The new Barracuda design is radically different from the previous.
Yes, but it is a Resin -> Resin refresh. GW did not release a plastic version of it. Radically different in terms of construction, sure. But the Thunderhawk appears to be quite different as well.
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Deathwatch: 1500 pts
Imperial Knights: 375 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 14:17:58
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Years ago I had a chat with a GW employee (i.e. not a store manager), and the Thunderhawk came up. This person said it was feasible at that time, but the issue was that it'd tie up the machines for too long and mess up the production schedule. But now GW apparently has more capacity.
I agree that it looks like a CAD design. But then it also makes sense to me that they'd design the thing in CAD just so it's in their back pocket, and not necessarily because it's indicative of an imminent release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 14:41:57
Subject: Re:A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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As long as I get my freaking turbo-laser, I will be happy. Maybe they will give it a points cost as stupid as the Wraithknight so it will see play in regular games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 14:43:01
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Squadrons of thunderhawks for 250 per hawk obviously. Comes with the turbolaser.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 15:00:31
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I think they've been successful enough with big plastic kits and maybe 3-4 years ago this wouldn't have been possible but maybe now there's a better chance. And by now they gotta know if they did make one, they'd most certainly sell a metric crapton of them. I'd certainly buy one just because, I don't even play marines, but I'd love to have one either way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 15:07:16
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Been Around the Block
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Nevelon wrote:Cool looking display piece aside, do people think they have a spot in lists? I mean, I covet a plastic Thunderhawk as much as the next guy, but paying that many points for a flyer that starts in reserves seems a bit crazy. And that’s empty. Fill it up, and that’s most of your list.
I'm 32 years old, I've got tens of thousands of points of models painted for both 40k and fantasy and I've played about three games, ever. Even if it doesn't have much practical utility GW would make one to sell as a collectors piece.
I've been expecting a plastic thunderhawk for years, its more a surprise its taken this long. Its an obvious winner.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 15:29:04
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Promethius wrote: Nevelon wrote:Cool looking display piece aside, do people think they have a spot in lists? I mean, I covet a plastic Thunderhawk as much as the next guy, but paying that many points for a flyer that starts in reserves seems a bit crazy. And that’s empty. Fill it up, and that’s most of your list.
I'm 32 years old, I've got tens of thousands of points of models painted for both 40k and fantasy and I've played about three games, ever. Even if it doesn't have much practical utility GW would make one to sell as a collectors piece.
I've been expecting a plastic thunderhawk for years, its more a surprise its taken this long. Its an obvious winner.
It’s value to collectors is obvious. It’s a classic, iconic, part of 40k. Anyone with a decent sized army on the shelf will want one just for looks. I’m right there with you on that.
I’ve got a reasonably tight hobby budget. For me, is it worth picking up something that I’ll never game with? The number of apoc sized games I’ve ever been part of can be counted on one hand, and I’ve been playing since the RT era. If I’m going to blow what amounts to most of a year’s worth of my budget on a centerpiece model, I’d like to have it see some play. Would a fellblade or a sparten from FW be a better use?
The Thunderhawk is so iconic, even if it’s hot garbage on the table, I still might pick one up. I’ve got a large enough collection to justify it as a centerpiece, and it’s something new. I’d rather dump cash on something I don’t have, then yet another copy of XX unit, even if I could use a couple more in my lists. It’s the balance of the gamer and the painter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 15:57:13
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Fixture of Dakka
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Necros wrote:I think they've been successful enough with big plastic kits and maybe 3-4 years ago this wouldn't have been possible but maybe now there's a better chance. And by now they gotta know if they did make one, they'd most certainly sell a metric crapton of them. I'd certainly buy one just because, I don't even play marines, but I'd love to have one either way.
I doubt they'd sell a "metric crapton" of thunderhawks. It's a massive model (WAY bigger than the current plastic kits, you can fit at least 4 baneblades in its shadow) that has 0 functional use on the battlefield due to the rules. Sure you'd have some people buy one but that's about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 15:59:28
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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I think you underestimate Nerds
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 16:03:16
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Fixture of Dakka
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No, I know them pretty well. There is always way more talk about buying stuff then there is actual buying. Especially when you need someone to make your army better. Do you spend 300$ on a useless flyer or do you buy a Lord of Change and Magnus?
People bought tons of Knights because they use them on the battlefield. Otherwise you'd just buy 1 to paint. Obviously there are people that buy tons for no reason but those people are few.
Thunderhawk is a loss waiting to happen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 16:08:41
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Kirasu wrote: Necros wrote:I think they've been successful enough with big plastic kits and maybe 3-4 years ago this wouldn't have been possible but maybe now there's a better chance. And by now they gotta know if they did make one, they'd most certainly sell a metric crapton of them. I'd certainly buy one just because, I don't even play marines, but I'd love to have one either way.
I doubt they'd sell a "metric crapton" of thunderhawks. It's a massive model (WAY bigger than the current plastic kits, you can fit at least 4 baneblades in its shadow) that has 0 functional use on the battlefield due to the rules. Sure you'd have some people buy one but that's about it.
Whats to stop GW from changing the rules and making them more common and easy to use on the table?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 16:11:42
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Fixture of Dakka
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Because they've never made thunderhawk rules playable? I'd be careful with giving GW the ability to "fix bad units" since they have shown they either are incapable or unwilling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 16:20:23
Subject: A new Thunderhawk kit? Warhammer Community Inferno teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wasn't Smaug the #1 seller for GW recently? If that sold, I'm sure a Thunderhawk would do fine
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