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Just Tony wrote: Did you know that if you shoot and kill a pregnant woman it counts as a double homicide? Or is that only for 3rd trimester shootings.
Wow. So Peregrine comments that Republicans will turn out and vote no matter how big of a disaster Republicans might be because of wedge issue nonsense like abortion, a border wall and transgender issues. You respond to this by ignoring the greater conversation about the disastrous new Republican healthcare proposal, and instead try to drag the conversation back to abortion.
It's like you're trying to parody the right wing, or something.
I think it's perfect and exactly why if you really think the Republicans are going to be punished at the polls for anything they do, you're naive at best. They can do functionally everything they want, or nothing, and as long as they make the right noises, they're going to keep getting the same crowd pulling those levers, no matter what. None of those coal jobs came back? PLANNED PARENTHOOD WARBLGARBL.
ISIL still not defeated? IMMIGRANTS! The same people who were outraged about the IRS potentially acting in a political manner are totally OK with the FBI putting it's thumb on the scale, because MEN IN LADIES ROOMS. This country got exactly what it deserved in Donald Trump, a president who reflects our population at large: fat, stupid, angry, and dangerous.
I´m not so sure about that, I think that the republican party has slipped in their control of their base. If Trump hadn´t come along they probably would have lost the election.
The problem they have is that they are a party for big business (And to be fair, the democrats are too), but you cant build a party with mass appeal with politics that only benefit 1% of the population. Thats why they are so reliant on these cultural signifiers to engage the voters(Abortian, gay marriage etc...), but I think they are losing ground there. Support for same-sex marriage and abortion has only increased over time, so if you rely on that to get votes things aren´t looking too rosy for you. If Trump hadn´t come along with his rhetoric that included an economic angle that appealed to the losers of globalization, they probably wouldn´t have been able to flip those blue states that won them the election.
Just Tony wrote: Did you know that if you shoot and kill a pregnant woman it counts as a double homicide? Or is that only for 3rd trimester shootings.
Wow. So Peregrine comments that Republicans will turn out and vote no matter how big of a disaster Republicans might be because of wedge issue nonsense like abortion, a border wall and transgender issues. You respond to this by ignoring the greater conversation about the disastrous new Republican healthcare proposal, and instead try to drag the conversation back to abortion.
It's like you're trying to parody the right wing, or something.
No, it's like the only thing he seemingly cares about. He shows up once a week pounces for Trump or dead babies or whatever, and then disappears for a week. His name is Tony. Just tony.
Just Tony wrote: Did you know that if you shoot and kill a pregnant woman it counts as a double homicide? Or is that only for 3rd trimester shootings.
Wow. So Peregrine comments that Republicans will turn out and vote no matter how big of a disaster Republicans might be because of wedge issue nonsense like abortion, a border wall and transgender issues. You respond to this by ignoring the greater conversation about the disastrous new Republican healthcare proposal, and instead try to drag the conversation back to abortion.
It's like you're trying to parody the right wing, or something.
No, it's like the only thing he seemingly cares about. He shows up once a week pounces for Trump or dead babies or whatever, and then disappears for a week. His name is Tony. Just tony.
I think he does it in between cooks. Shhhh.
Did you just quote yourself?
So, why do the Republicans think ACA the shittier will go over well? They'd probably win more people over by improving t rather than trying to strangle it in the crib. Then they can take the credit for his legacy as a parting FU.
Evidently I did. Must have been wise words or bad quote formatting. They didn't think it would go over well. Hence the submitting it before CBO rating or any sort of preliminary hearings. Thought Obamacare was shoved through? This will look like a large rock in a sausage fest. Which is sort of what it is.
are you actually being ran by grown ups or just children pretending ?
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I live in the south, and some of the racist people I have met come from the north, like Ohio.
Lol, as someone from the West Coast who once lived in the South, I will say this. The racist Southerners that I met were ridiculously smooth with their racism. Like, you'd have an entire conversation, and it wasnt until like an hour after leaving that you go, "wait... that was racist!!" The ones that I ran into who were more overt were most likely from the "near South" which I would probably put Ohio into, as in, near enough to The South that they do what they do, and make it look like they are locals.
Conflating Ohio with the South is...to be most polite, misplaced.
I'm getting on a bit myself. Maybe I'm getting cynical, but you and I are not that naïve to think that the CIA doesn't spy on the US public, despite what the law and the constitution says...
The CIA absolutely, positively does not spy on the US public. At all. Ever.
Ustrello wrote: Maybe we will finally see the heat death of the garbage pile that is the current GOP
Or Trump and the Republicans will get booted from power, where they'll return to their defensive stance of obstructionism, which will let them maintain their 60 million reliable voters, meanwhile Democrats will again get frustrated that Democrats can't just magically overcome Republican blocks, and also many voters will be disillusioned that Democrats aren't as left wing as they'd like (or maybe in a twist next time around, more centrist voters will be disillusioned by a party that's too left wing for them). This will open the door for Republicans to come back in to power and the cycle will repeat.
It will break at some point, nothing lasts forever. And in politics especially, where elections are only every couple of years and presidential elections only every 4, then you can a lot of underlying changes over the course of 3 or 4 election cycles. But exactly how this will break is anyone's guess.
I'd figured that it'd start to break during Trump's administration...
Especially if the GOP don't repeal the ACA.... I don't see how the GOP maintains 60+ million votes if they don't follow through with that.
On the flip side if they repeal it and don't replace it with something more workable and still beneficiary to the working class, they'll get hammered as well, once they realize they've been hoodwinked.
There's a reason the American public was screaming for healthcare reform before Obamacare came into being.
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Ouze wrote: I think it's perfect and exactly why if you really think the Republicans are going to be punished at the polls for anything they do, you're naive at best. They can do functionally everything they want, or nothing, and as long as they make the right noises, they're going to keep getting the same crowd pulling those levers, no matter what. None of those coal jobs came back? PLANNED PARENTHOOD WARBLGARBL.
Yeah, that's why I was saying it isn't about Republicans turning away, its about the 5 to 10 million easily dissuaded Democrats. They will be slowly remembering this is how terrible Republicans are, and what's more as Republicans fail to deliver on their ludicrous promises, or worse deliver on promises to the donor class that directly screws their working class voters, then Republicans will need to rely more and more on social issues to appease the base. Which will only piss off more people and cause them to vote Democrat.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Unless, of course, the Democrats find themselves unable to mobilise voters due to having left local parties without sufficient funding or find their attempts to claim opposition met with doubt due to their efforts to push the young and the poor away from having a say in what the party should do.
The implicit accusation is that only now that whites are involved have racist authorities been roused to act. This is false in two ways. First, authorities have not been roused to act. Second, when they do, they will have epidemiological, and not just tribal, grounds for doing so. A plague afflicting an entire country, across ethnic groups, is by definition more devastating than a plague afflicting only part of it. A heroin scourge in America’s housing projects coincided with a wave of heroin-addicted soldiers brought back from Vietnam, with a cost peaking between 1973 and 1975 at 1.5 overdose deaths per 100,000. The Nixon White House panicked. Curtis Mayfield wrote his soul ballad “Freddie’s Dead.” The crack epidemic of the mid- to late 1980s was worse, with a death rate reaching almost two per 100,000. George H. W. Bush declared war on drugs. The present opioid epidemic is killing 10.3 people per 100,000, and that is without the fentanyl-impacted statistics from 2016. In some states it is far worse: over thirty per 100,000 in New Hampshire and over forty in West Virginia.
wow, never knew it was quite that bad.
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John Oliver has a nice segment on opioid addiction in the US, and how quite a few areas are severely affected by it. Partially the result of pharmaceutical corporate greed and MDs being in bed with them, but also some recent scientific evidence not put into medical policy quickly and throroughly enough.
Rosebuddy wrote: Unless, of course, the Democrats find themselves unable to mobilise voters due to having left local parties without sufficient funding
What does "local parties" mean in this context? Do you mean local branches of the Democrat party or various local third parties?
You've mentioned this several times in the thread but what does it refer to? Did the Dem's recently restructure their internal party financing system or something?
Rosebuddy wrote: Unless, of course, the Democrats find themselves unable to mobilise voters due to having left local parties without sufficient funding
What does "local parties" mean in this context? Do you mean local branches of the Democrat party or various local third parties?
You've mentioned this several times in the thread but what does it refer to? Did the Dem's recently restructure their internal party financing system or something?
Not as far as I know...
I think that Rosebuddy is just, for whatever reason, hung up on the idea that Sanders and Friends were hung out to dry by the Democratic Party itself and not just voters.
Which, if true, is just ridiculous because there's a reason that Clinton adopted some of his stances after she got nominated as the candidate.
Rosebuddy wrote: Unless, of course, the Democrats find themselves unable to mobilise voters due to having left local parties without sufficient funding
What does "local parties" mean in this context? Do you mean local branches of the Democrat party or various local third parties?
You've mentioned this several times in the thread but what does it refer to? Did the Dem's recently restructure their internal party financing system or something?
In the US the two major parties, Democrats and Republicans have a National Committee (the DNC and RNC) that are supposed to coordinate and unify the state and local branches of the party and raise money from donors that the DNC and RNC will then pass on to state and local candidates that they believe are the best candidates for the party. Each of the 50 states have their own Democrat and Republican parties, the leadership committees for the state parties are the ones who are supposed to coordinate and unify the members (politicians and voters) of the parties and raise money from donors for the Party and candidates in the state. State Parties are also in charge of funding and overseeing the primary process for their states, putting on the election and selecting delegates, etc. The state Parties are also play a major role in funding, running and oversight for the polling places in the state on Election Day for the general election. Municipalities and counties can also have their own branches of the two Parties which oversee things on the local level. Much like real estate, politics can vary greatly by location and there has always been some tension between the local and state Parties and the DNC/RNC over policy positions, priorities, who the best candidates in the primaries are, who should run and who should be in charge. In 2016 there was some conflict in both Parties, the Democrats had a lot of Clintonian Democrats in the DNC that were "establishment" types that didn't see eye to eye with a lot of the fervent Sanders supporters at the State and local level. The Republicans had a similar conflict between the "establishment" Republicans in the RNC and Trump and his supporters since Trump didn't have much history with the Republican party and that, along with his policy positions, left Trump without a lot of patrons among the longer term Party leaders.
Where in the bible does it say that abortion is wrong again, Mark 9:47 right?
I am an atheist, so way to go with the assumptions. Might as well call me anti-gay and racist, which I'm also not. Or uneducated, which I am also not. Maybe you can classify Indiana as part of the south to help the narrative? I'll keep a spot warm for you.
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Just Tony wrote: Did you know that if you shoot and kill a pregnant woman it counts as a double homicide? Or is that only for 3rd trimester shootings.
Allow me to introduce you to the concept of a "legal fiction". It's where something isn't actually true, but we all pretend it is in court so things work out the right way. You know, like how corporations are considered people in many ways even though they clearly aren't living humans. In the case of shooting a pregnant woman treating it as a double homicide is an easy way to add on a bunch of years in prison to reflect the added emotional pain of killing a someday-child that the parents probably wanted. That doesn't mean that the fetus is treated as a full person in other contexts.
Also you forgot to further the whole Mike Pence's Grand Imperial Army of Christ schtick. Are you feeling okay?
Yeah, let's just pretend that the idea of the republican party pandering to right-wing Christians and their anti-LGBT beliefs is just some joke about Pence's army of Christ. We'll just conveniently ignore their opposition to gay marriage (and desire to overturn it), republicans passing ridiculous bathroom defense laws with awful transphobic comments in justification, etc. Nothing at all reasonable about talking about those things...
Notice even the grand paragon of left wing liberalism, California, views it as murder. #fakenews or summat...
Can you show me any federal push to overturn gay marriage? I'm aware there are some... colorful states that are attempting to, but those legislatures are rightly losing ground. As far as the bathroom defense laws, wouldn't it be easier to build unisex bathrooms everywhere? Like, all three versions? One would assume that if you are aware that there are two disparate groups you make some sort of concession to accommodate both. Or should the uncomfortable phobics be forced to do something against their will? Doesn't sound like EITHER party should be forced to do something they don't want to do.
And my joking about Pence's army had more to do with your multiple posts about how every right your community has would be taken away within the first minutes of the new administration, which was of course not the case.
And whomever made the cooking comment? I am a cook for the Army National Guard, as after sustaining a spine injury during my 20 years of serving as an Army Infantryman left me with a permanent profile and forced me to be reclassed. I didn't cook this weekend, though. We catered. Unless it was some sort of meth crack, in which case... well, nothing I say will stop the slander, so why bother?
There's a lot not to like in President Trump's weekend Twitter rant regarding alleged wiretapping of Trump Tower ordered by his predecessor in the heat of the 2016 campaign. For one, there's been no evidence offered to support Trump's claim. For another, accusing President Barack Obama of using the tools of the intelligence community for purely political means is a very big accusation to level, particularly when there's no proof.
But, the worst thing that came out of this whole wiretapping mess is this quote from a White House official, reported by Mike Allen of Axios (boldface is mine):
“The president just has a great nose for these things. Even if it turns out not to be true that they surveilled Trump Tower, he will have a very good point to make about the level of sabotage coming from Obama holdovers.”
Even. If. It. Turns. Out. Not. To. Be. True.
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Just Tony wrote: Did you know that if you shoot and kill a pregnant woman it counts as a double homicide? Or is that only for 3rd trimester shootings.
Wow. So Peregrine comments that Republicans will turn out and vote no matter how big of a disaster Republicans might be because of wedge issue nonsense like abortion, a border wall and transgender issues. You respond to this by ignoring the greater conversation about the disastrous new Republican healthcare proposal, and instead try to drag the conversation back to abortion.
It's like you're trying to parody the right wing, or something.
No, my issue was the more than flippant and cavalier attitude your side of the fence has towards abortion, and I pointed out a legal precedent that refutes it solely because that was the part I had issue with at the time. Everything else? Yeah, yeah. Right wingers are all personist phobophobes. I understand perfectly.
Just Tony wrote: I am an atheist, so way to go with the assumptions. Might as well call me anti-gay and racist, which I'm also not. Or uneducated, which I am also not.
Well if it walks like a duck and posts like a duck it is probably a duck. You've done a good job making yourself appear to be a certain way online so just denying it while acting like it doesn't really jive. If you don't want people to think you are a duck you may want to consider that you present yourself as one. Yeah yeah I know it is easier to assume everyone else is wrong instead of doing self reflection, but you never know.
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Rosebuddy wrote: Unless, of course, the Democrats find themselves unable to mobilise voters due to having left local parties without sufficient funding
What does "local parties" mean in this context? Do you mean local branches of the Democrat party or various local third parties?
You've mentioned this several times in the thread but what does it refer to? Did the Dem's recently restructure their internal party financing system or something?
In the US the two major parties, Democrats and Republicans have a National Committee (the DNC and RNC) that are supposed to coordinate and unify the state and local branches of the party and raise money from donors that the DNC and RNC will then pass on to state and local candidates that they believe are the best candidates for the party. Each of the 50 states have their own Democrat and Republican parties, the leadership committees for the state parties are the ones who are supposed to coordinate and unify the members (politicians and voters) of the parties and raise money from donors for the Party and candidates in the state. State Parties are also in charge of funding and overseeing the primary process for their states, putting on the election and selecting delegates, etc. The state Parties are also play a major role in funding, running and oversight for the polling places in the state on Election Day for the general election. Municipalities and counties can also have their own branches of the two Parties which oversee things on the local level. Much like real estate, politics can vary greatly by location and there has always been some tension between the local and state Parties and the DNC/RNC over policy positions, priorities, who the best candidates in the primaries are, who should run and who should be in charge. In 2016 there was some conflict in both Parties, the Democrats had a lot of Clintonian Democrats in the DNC that were "establishment" types that didn't see eye to eye with a lot of the fervent Sanders supporters at the State and local level. The Republicans had a similar conflict between the "establishment" Republicans in the RNC and Trump and his supporters since Trump didn't have much history with the Republican party and that, along with his policy positions, left Trump without a lot of patrons among the longer term Party leaders.
I don't see how what you've written here has to do with leaving "local parties without sufficient funding"
Rosebuddy wrote: Unless, of course, the Democrats find themselves unable to mobilise voters due to having left local parties without sufficient funding
What does "local parties" mean in this context? Do you mean local branches of the Democrat party or various local third parties?
You've mentioned this several times in the thread but what does it refer to? Did the Dem's recently restructure their internal party financing system or something?
In the US the two major parties, Democrats and Republicans have a National Committee (the DNC and RNC) that are supposed to coordinate and unify the state and local branches of the party and raise money from donors that the DNC and RNC will then pass on to state and local candidates that they believe are the best candidates for the party. Each of the 50 states have their own Democrat and Republican parties, the leadership committees for the state parties are the ones who are supposed to coordinate and unify the members (politicians and voters) of the parties and raise money from donors for the Party and candidates in the state. State Parties are also in charge of funding and overseeing the primary process for their states, putting on the election and selecting delegates, etc. The state Parties are also play a major role in funding, running and oversight for the polling places in the state on Election Day for the general election. Municipalities and counties can also have their own branches of the two Parties which oversee things on the local level. Much like real estate, politics can vary greatly by location and there has always been some tension between the local and state Parties and the DNC/RNC over policy positions, priorities, who the best candidates in the primaries are, who should run and who should be in charge. In 2016 there was some conflict in both Parties, the Democrats had a lot of Clintonian Democrats in the DNC that were "establishment" types that didn't see eye to eye with a lot of the fervent Sanders supporters at the State and local level. The Republicans had a similar conflict between the "establishment" Republicans in the RNC and Trump and his supporters since Trump didn't have much history with the Republican party and that, along with his policy positions, left Trump without a lot of patrons among the longer term Party leaders.
I don't see how what you've written here has to do with leaving "local parties without sufficient funding"
The DNC/RNC raise large amounts of money from donors and then decide which state/local Parties and candidates receive some of that money. A lot of the DNC leadership had connections to the Clintons and some people believe that the DNC therefore had a preference for using their money to support more establishment or Clintonian down ballot candidates and ignore the "Sanders wing" of the party/more progressive candidates. Cenk uygur seems to be one of the main champions of this cause, especially with the recent Ellison vs Perez race for the DNC chair.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/02/28/cenk_uygur_to_keith_ellison_walk_out_of_the_dnc_dont_be_their_figurehead.html
Just Tony wrote: Did you know that if you shoot and kill a pregnant woman it counts as a double homicide? Or is that only for 3rd trimester shootings.
Wow. So Peregrine comments that Republicans will turn out and vote no matter how big of a disaster Republicans might be because of wedge issue nonsense like abortion, a border wall and transgender issues. You respond to this by ignoring the greater conversation about the disastrous new Republican healthcare proposal, and instead try to drag the conversation back to abortion.
It's like you're trying to parody the right wing, or something.
No, my issue was the more than flippant and cavalier attitude your side of the fence has towards abortion, and I pointed out a legal precedent that refutes it solely because that was the part I had issue with at the time. Everything else? Yeah, yeah. Right wingers are all personist phobophobes. I understand perfectly.
It's also because that argument makes no sense. You shot a person. That's not an abortion, that's shooting someone.
Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
Regarding Local Parties, there is a big push right now to make sure Democrats and left-wingers get active at the local level such as county, city, and state governments by attendign councils and the like in order to build a larger local support base. Perhaps Rosebuddy is referring to that strategy?
Rosebuddy? Your thoughts?
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Rosebuddy wrote: Unless, of course, the Democrats find themselves unable to mobilise voters due to having left local parties without sufficient funding or find their attempts to claim opposition met with doubt due to their efforts to push the young and the poor away from having a say in what the party should do.
Yeah, this is getting to the point where it's really just very weird. Democrats identified they focused too much time and resources on the presidential race, and not on other races. You read this, and started repeating it over and over again as if it was permanent structural issue with the DNC, rather than a temporary tactical mistake that was self-diagnosed.
The second part, on 'efforts to push young and the poor away' is just, once again, you being sad that Sanders isn't king of all things DNC. I'll explain it again - the Democratic party in the US represents around about half of the total US political spectrum, which means it has to cater and appeal to more than just a disaffected socialist left. This means, like every major political party everywhere in the world it is always playing a balancing act, trying to please as many different groups as possible, or more likely trying to piss off as few groups as possible. Sometimes bad calls are made, other times it becomes impossible to please enough groups to maintain a majority, this latter event is typical of governments that have been in power and seen a lot of its factions get increasingly demanding that their own goals are met or they walk, as they slowly forget how much it sucks to be out of government. The latter happened in 2016, but now that they are in opposition and benefiting from a truly disastrous Republican party's efforts in power, they are unlikely to have the same issue.
You continue to ignore this political reality, and instead hold to notion that your own personal views are held by the majority of people, based on nothing more than how much you personally believe these ideals. As such you think if the Democrats would just do everything according to your values, then this vast unstated, invisible majority will surge to the ballots to support you. This is simply wrong, and as long as you hold to that dream you will never be able to understand anything about how US politics works.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
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Just Tony wrote: No, my issue was the more than flippant and cavalier attitude your side of the fence has towards abortion
Exactly. There's a conversation going on about policy events that are happening right now, with Republicans rolling out their healthcare reform bill after 6 years of promising it, and you come in desperate to talk about abortion again. You couldn't have proven Peregrine's point more clearly.
It gets even more amazing because I pointed out how perfectly you demonstrated the indifference of many on the right to any kind of real policy discussion because of the fixation on wedge issues, and ignore all that a second time to keep trying to make a point about abortion.
Are you gonna go for a threepeat?
Yeah, yeah. Right wingers are all personist phobophobes.
Oh look, word salad.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Technically, it's true. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself (and nuclear war, and the spread of memetic viruses) Complete nonsensical garbage for all practical purposes, but "phobophobia" is a valid trait everyone should have.
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Easy E wrote: Regarding Local Parties, there is a big push right now to make sure Democrats and left-wingers get active at the local level such as county, city, and state governments by attendign councils and the like in order to build a larger local support base.
It's also a push to hold Republicans accountable at all levels. Here in NC, we kicked out Pat McCrory from the governor's office...but not the Republicans in the state legislature or at the federal level. Getting involved at county, city, and state levels is critical for getting things done for the Democrats since we've got such ridiculously gerrymandered districts.
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sense. You shot a person. That's not an abortion, that's shooting someone.
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