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Because non-stem degrees bring a larger societal good than they can receive in a paycheck. The only way to effectively have an educated populace is through the government doing it.
Though an interesting thought, it would seem the billions the Gov't is spending isn't doing what you think it should. We (the US) spends a feth ton more than most countries per student already, MOAR $$$ isn't the answer, and the gov't seems less than able (at the Fed level) to handle the issue.
And again, the 'societal good' is greatly reduced when you have a glut of kids graduating with non-stem degrees unable to get employment commiserate with those degrees.
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By MICHAEL F. CANNON SHARE
A new Congressional Budget Office report projecting the effects of the House Republican leadership’s American Health Care Act weakens the case for the bill’s ObamaCare-lite approach, and strengthens the case for full repeal. The CBO projects that over the next two years, the AHCA would cause average premiums to rise 15 percent to 20 percent above ObamaCare’s already high premium levels. The report raises the prospect that insurance markets may collapse under the AHCA, just as they are collapsing under ObamaCare. It makes unreasonable assumptions about Medicaid spending; more reasonable assumptions could completely eliminate the bill’s projected deficit reduction. Finally, the CBO projects more people will lose coverage under the AHCA than under full repeal.
ObamaCare-Lite, ObamaCare-Forever
The AHCA purports to repeal and replace ObamaCare. In reality, it would do no such thing.
In a previous post, I wrote:
This bill is a train wreck waiting to happen.
The House leadership bill isn’t even a repeal bill. Not by a long shot. It would repeal far less of ObamaCare than the bill Republicans sent to President Obama one year ago…
[It] merely applies a new coat of paint to a building that Republicans themselves have already condemned…If this is the choice, it would be better if Congress simply did nothing.
The ACHA retains all the powers ObamaCare gives the federal government over private insurance, gives those powers a bipartisan imprimatur, and therefore gives them immortality. Its repeal of ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion would likely never take effect. It fails to create real block grants in Medicaid, and preserves perverse incentives from both the “old” Medicaid program and the expansion. It would create an ongoing series of crises in the individual market, for which Republicans would take the blame and suffer at the polls, at the same time it would create pressure for more taxes and government spending. It’s hard to imagine what House Republicans were thinking.
Premiums and Market Stability
Full repeal, in particular repeal of ObamaCare’s health-insurance regulations, would cause premiums to fall for the vast majority of consumers in the individual market.
In contrast, the AHCA would increase premiums from their already high ObamaCare levels. “In 2018 and 2019…average premiums for single policyholders in the nongroup market would be 15 percent to 20 percent higher than under current law,” the CBO reported.
Premium increases of that magnitude could further destabilize ObamaCare’s health-insurance Exchanges. Adverse selection has already led to an exodus of insurers from the individual market. ObamaCare has driven every last insurer from the Exchange in 16 counties in Tennessee, leaving 43,000 residents with no health insurance options for 2018. In a thousand other counties around the country, the law has driven all but one insurer from the Exchange. Nearly 3 million people in those counties are just one carrier exit from being in the same position as those 43,000 Tennesseans.
The CBO posits that, nonetheless, “the nongroup market would probably be stable in most areas under either current law or the legislation.”
In most areas. Probably.
Supporters of the legislation note that the CBO projects the average premiums would then begin to fall after 2019. One reason is that the AHCA would end one of ObamaCare’s health-insurance regulations (actuarial-value requirements). Another is that the CBO predicts states would use the AHCA’s new Patient and State Stability Fund to subsidize high-cost enrollees.
There are reasons to doubt this prediction. First, it assumes the Exchanges survive the ensuing adverse selection and make it to 2020. Second, the Patient and State Stability Fund would not reduce premiums. Like ObamaCare’s reinsurance program, it would hide a portion of the full premium by shifting it to taxpayers. So even though the CBO reports that the portion of the premium that consumers see would fall 10 percent by 2026, it is not accurate to say premiums would fall. We don’t know if the full premium would fall or rise after 2019, because the CBO isn’t telling us.
Spending
On paper the AHCA cuts taxes and government spending. But it also sets forces in motion that could undo those gains.
The CBO projects the AHCA would reduce federal spending by $1.2 trillion over ten years and reduce tax revenues by $883 billion, for a total reduction in the deficit of $337 billion. That certainly makes the bill appear attractive. Until you look at the details.
Take the bill’s Medicaid provisions. The CBO projects the bill would reduce Medicaid spending by $880 billion. The reduction would come both from phasing out ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion, and from changing how the federal government pays for each state’s Medicaid program.
I doubt these savings will materialize. In my previous post, I wrote:
When eventually we see a Congressional Budget Office score of the bill (House leadership has numbers, but they’re not sharing them), it may show a reduction in federal spending on the Medicaid expansion after 2020. I would not bet on that happening.
True enough, the CBO bases those projected spending reductions on assumptions I do not find reasonable.
For instance, the CBO assumes that under current law, some number of the 19 states that have refused to implement ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion would do so. The AHCA reduces the cost to states of implementing the expansion. But rather than assume even more states would implement the expansion under the AHCA, however, the CBO assumes no states would. That makes no sense.
The AHCA would reduce the risks to states of implementing the expansion. Prior to or absent the AHCA, states face the risk that Congress might reduce the enhanced federal funding ObamaCare provides states for Medicaid-expansion enrollees. Such a change would mean states would go from paying 10 percent of the cost of the expansion to paying 50 percent of the cost. A five-fold increase. The AHCA eliminates that risk by holding expansion states completely harmless with respect to Medicaid-expansion enrollees who enroll prior to 2020. It would guarantee states would continue to pay only 10 percent of the cost for every Medicaid expansion enrollee, even after the bill would “repeal” the expansion by barring new enrollments starting in 2020.
The cost of expanding Medicaid would go down, yet fewer states would do it. And here I thought demand curves slope downward.
If I’m correct that more states would expand Medicaid and go on an enrollment binge prior to 2020— and especially if those decisions pressured Congress to scrap “repeal” of the expansion—the CBO’s projected savings from the AHCA would prove too optimistic. If just half of the projected Medicaid savings fail to materialize, that would wipe out all of the AHCA’s presumed deficit reduction.
If states game the new per-enrollee matching grant system of federal Medicaid funding, even more of those presumed spending reductions would evaporate.
Likewise, if the AHCA were to create even more instability in the individual market, it would create even more pressure for additional taxes and government spending to stabilize the market. Even more of the AHCA’s projected savings would disappear.
Coverage Levels
In January, the CBO projected that completely repealing ObamaCare, without a replacement, would increase the uninsured by 23 million people by 2026. The agency projects the AHCA’s non-repeal approach would increase the uninsured by even more—24 million people. As my colleague Josh Blackman notes, there is ample reason to believe the CBO models overstate the coverage gains achieved by ObamaCare’s individual mandate, and the coverage losses the agency projects would follow its repeal.
Even so, the CBO score confirms the folly of the House Republicans’ approach, and that there is no reason not to repeal ObamaCare in full. Like it or not, the CBO’s estimates of coverage impacts are the ones ObamaCare’s defenders and the media will cite. If Republicans are going to take the same amount of heat either way, they might as well do the right thing and do a full repeal.
Republicans could then repurpose the $361 billion they planned to spend on tax credits on expanding tax-free health savings accounts—a reform that would drive down health care prices for the poor, that Congress can enact via reconciliation, and that does not divide ObamaCare opponents like tax credits do, not least because HSAs do not subsidize abortion like tax credits do. They could convert Medicaid into an actual system of block grants, giving states the flexibility to target Medicaid funds to those who still could not afford the care they need.
The Ryan (and Ryanites) are going to get clobbered over this.
CptJake wrote: Those degrees ARE being quantified, you just disagree with that quantification.
What it boils down to is there is a glut of graduates with those degrees compared to positions requiring those degrees, driving the value down while the costs to gain the degree are still high.
Again, if the banks could lose THEIR money on student loans, a lot of this would work itself out.
See, there's the problem. You only see it as how much money can that earn someone. Economics is not the only way to value something. When dealing with people and society, it is, in fact, a very bad way of valuing something. Economics is amoral and places no value on human dignity or a just society.
A gak ton of unemployed/underemployed/mis-employed non-stem degree holders is a burden on society, and their debt increases the magnitude of that burden.
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CptJake wrote: Those degrees ARE being quantified, you just disagree with that quantification.
What it boils down to is there is a glut of graduates with those degrees compared to positions requiring those degrees, driving the value down while the costs to gain the degree are still high. Again, if the banks could lose THEIR money on student loans, a lot of this would work itself out.
See, there's the problem. You only see it as how much money can that earn someone. Economics is not the only way to value something. When dealing with people and society, it is, in fact, a very bad way of valuing something. Economics is amoral and places no value on human dignity or a just society.
Fair argument, however you are not providing an alternative method of replicable valuation. Regardless (and I am not necessarily disagreeing with you), supplying these segments to ecnomic overcapacity dooms them to poverty. It becomes a University/lender shell gain with the student as patsy.
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In this discussion: a bunch of people with STEM-degrees denigrating non-STEM-degrees, and a bunch of non-STEM-degree people denigrating STEM-degrees. Good job.
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: In this discussion: a bunch of people with STEM-degrees denigrating non-STEM-degrees, and a bunch of non-STEM-degree people denigrating STEM-degrees. Good job.
I don't have either. Can I denigrate both?
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: In this discussion: a bunch of people with STEM-degrees denigrating non-STEM-degrees, and a bunch of non-STEM-degree people denigrating STEM-degrees. Good job.
My degree is in Accounting, which is close to a Stem degree
Not saying Stem degrees aren't useful...But their worth is accepted by society. Non-Stem degrees are not.
A gak ton of unemployed/underemployed/mis-employed non-stem degree holders is a burden on society, and their debt increases the magnitude of that burden.
The debt is a burden on society and something we should do something about. Underemployed isn't an issue, and the other are generally caused by people not seeing the value of a non-stem degree.
Because non-stem degrees bring a larger societal good than they can receive in a paycheck. The only way to effectively have an educated populace is through the government doing it.
Though an interesting thought, it would seem the billions the Gov't is spending isn't doing what you think it should. We (the US) spends a feth ton more than most countries per student already, MOAR $$$ isn't the answer, and the gov't seems less than able (at the Fed level) to handle the issue.
Gee, we have one side of politicians that are in power right now that constantly attack education and teachers and don't want people that can think critically...They also live by the mantra that government can't do anything right and everything should be privatized. And then you wonder why the Fed government has 'trouble' handling the 'issue'.
And again, the 'societal good' is greatly reduced when you have a glut of kids graduating with non-stem degrees unable to get employment commiserate with those degrees.
And I call bs on that for reasons already mentioned. Paycheck is a bad metric for measuring the worth of an education, especially a non-stem education.
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Let's all just get degrees in the medical field. Then we can all be overworked, underpaid, debt riddled, and undervalued. But hey, everybody would have healthcare then!
If a person has gone through their K-12 education and still can't read and think critically and analytically then their chances of getting a good tertiary education through any means is highly suspect. While some of the benefits of a BA can't be given a clear monetary value, the negative impact of owing tens of thousands of dollars can be valued. There are a ton of liberal arts lectures and discussions available on youtube, in long form podcasts, TED talks, blogs and websites that you can access for a tiny fraction of the cost of attending a semester at a university and plenty of the major texts that would be studied can be found at libraries. The tertiary education bubble is going to burst in the near future because it doesn't make any sense to keep supporting it's over inflated value in the current system.
There is definitely a problem with the K-12 education system right now. Lack of funding, teachers constantly under attack from politicians, political football with what is taught (IE discouraging critical thinking), and concentrating teaching towards a test (IE making it too black and white) are definitely an issue.
Non-Stem learning is really hard to do by yourself. It almost requires a teacher and differing view points to really understand it. A youtube video will teach you how to build a house (Was reading an article about someone who did that today). But you need interaction to really do well in areas that involve lots of shades of grey rather than a black and white, right or wrong thing. A youtube video or a book will not give you feedback on you attempting to explain your views and defend them. Trying to do that on the internet just gets you shouted down and called names
Really, you'd be better replacing all Stem degrees with a library card and an internet connection and leave colleges for non-Stem degrees.
Not saying that the thousands of student loans aren't an issue. Yes, the cost can be quantified. However, the value cannot. So you have people with Stem degrees and ways of thinking looking down on BA degrees as the benefits can't be quantified.
CptJake wrote: I suspect if students could discharge student loan debt via bankruptcy, and the Feds didn't give or guarantee the loans, loans for majors without decent earning potential and for students without good grades/performance would be much more difficult to obtain..
See, the problem right there is that majors without 'decent earning potential' being difficult to obtain is a very bad thing for society.
Why?
If an organization needs employees with those majors, why not set up scholarships, offer loans, or otherwise incentivize good candidates to pursue those majors and then take a position in the organization? Or offer other training which could replace a degree for the organization? Or offer internships in which a degree completion program is part of the internship? Plenty of ways to skin this cat without the Feds giving out loans like candy on Halloween.
Why should it be on the Fed gov't to do so?
Because non-stem degrees bring a larger societal good than they can receive in a paycheck. The only way to effectively have an educated populace is through the government doing it.
Liberal Arts BAs have a value and a benefit but is that value in line with their cost? Is a poli sci or anthropology or English lit class in a university really several times more valuable in terms of monetary cost than a poli sci, anthro or English class in a community college? Both classes can study the same texts/subjects and have discussions led by professors and work on the same papers/projects but the university is likely to leave you burdened with debt. All of the graduates that struggle with student loan debt indicate that we're putting too high of a monetary value on degrees. That doesn't mean those degrees don't have value or shouldn't be pursued it just means that the monetary cost to obtain them needs to be re-examined because it's become a hardship on graduates. Getting a degree shouldn't leave you worse off than before you graduated.
Maybe tuition cost should be tied to what you can earn in that field over the same amount of time. So if you are expected to earn 80k a year as X then a 4 year X degree should cost 320K.
...but then Philosophy degrees would be free!
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: In this discussion: a bunch of people with STEM-degrees denigrating non-STEM-degrees, and a bunch of non-STEM-degree people denigrating STEM-degrees. Good job.
I don't have a STEM degree.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
I love the "I said something stupid, got called out, so now I'll be belligerent about it and double down...that'll show 'em." strategy of these gak heads.
Liberal Arts BAs have a value and a benefit but is that value in line with their cost?
I can't argue that it costs too much for a student to get them. But education in general costs too much. (Which is why you need government intervention)
Is a poli sci or anthropology or English lit class in a university really several times more valuable in terms of monetary cost than a poli sci, anthro or English class in a community college? Both classes can study the same texts/subjects and have discussions led by professors and work on the same papers/projects but the university is likely to leave you burdened with debt.
The same thing could be said of Math, Physics, and Engineering classes...Especially since those can be learned via internet/books a lot easier than the softer sciences.
feeder wrote: Maybe tuition cost should be tied to what you can earn in that field over the same amount of time. So if you are expected to earn 80k a year as X then a 4 year X degree should cost 320K.
...but then Philosophy degrees would be free!
You I like.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Liberal Arts BAs have a value and a benefit but is that value in line with their cost?
I can't argue that it costs too much for a student to get them. But education in general costs too much. (Which is why you need government intervention)
Do you not think there is already a LOT of intervention which has directly or indirectly caused the increase in costs?
Again, if a student/person with student loan debt cannot discharge their debt, and that debt is secured by the Fed gov't, there is no real risk to the banks (or now in most cases the Gov't) giving the loans. Knowing they can charge whatever they want and students will always be able to secure loans for tuition, there is no incentive for the universities to keep tuition costs down, they WILL get what they want to charge, the Fed gov't assures it.
It is a self licking ice cream cone at this point, with kids taking out the loans the real losers.
Remove the lack of risk from the lenders (and get the gov't out of the lending business as much as possible).
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Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
Liberal Arts BAs have a value and a benefit but is that value in line with their cost?
I can't argue that it costs too much for a student to get them. But education in general costs too much. (Which is why you need government intervention)
Wait government is going to put wage controls on university employees?
Is a poli sci or anthropology or English lit class in a university really several times more valuable in terms of monetary cost than a poli sci, anthro or English class in a community college? Both classes can study the same texts/subjects and have discussions led by professors and work on the same papers/projects but the university is likely to leave you burdened with debt.
The same thing could be said of Math, Physics, and Engineering classes...Especially since those can be learned via internet/books a lot easier than the softer sciences.
Again, you seem to have a poor understanding of STEM. My boy's higher end math classes didn't have books, and required time on the university's supercomputer.
Genghis Connie will be wearing a lab coat and splicing genes to make mutant monsters n her first semester (research anyway with other people splicing genes and creating mutant monsters.
Look up CRISPR gene splicing and tell thats not terrifying. She thinks its the savior of humanity. I see the death of mankind.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Liberal Arts BAs have a value and a benefit but is that value in line with their cost?
I can't argue that it costs too much for a student to get them. But education in general costs too much. (Which is why you need government intervention)
Do you not think there is already a LOT of intervention which has directly or indirectly caused the increase in costs?
Again, if a student/person with student loan debt cannot discharge their debt, and that debt is secured by the Fed gov't, there is no real risk to the banks (or now in most cases the Gov't) giving the loans. Knowing they can charge whatever they want and students will always be able to secure loans for tuition, there is no incentive for the universities to keep tuition costs down, they WILL get what they want to charge, the Fed gov't assures it.
It is a self licking ice cream cone at this point, with kids taking out the loans the real losers.
Remove the lack of risk from the lenders (and get the gov't out of the lending business as much as possible).
That results in less people getting an educated, especially with non-stem degrees. This is a very bad thing for society as a whole. Decreasing access to education is NOT the answer to the problem.
A factor worth mentioning is that a college degree isn't for everyone. Even if everyone were intelligent and driven enough to obtain one, the realities of society mean there are always a huge number of jobs that do not require or need a degree. Even if the student debt situation is resolved that is only a symptom of a much larger problem which will still be present; it is becoming increasingly more difficult to earn a decent living. Which is to say that the most effective means of tackling student debt may be to address the larger issue; earnings which should be spread among the populace are instead hoarded by the top.
NinthMusketeer wrote: A factor worth mentioning is that a college degree isn't for everyone. Even if everyone were intelligent and driven enough to obtain one, the realities of society mean there are always a huge number of jobs that do not require or need a degree. Even if the student debt situation is resolved that is only a symptom of a much larger problem which will still be present; it is becoming increasingly more difficult to earn a decent living. Which is to say that the most effective means of tackling student debt may be to address the larger issue; earnings which should be spread among the populace are instead hoarded by the top.
No current society desires to have all its citizens have university degrees. That is a weird aberration of the US system. Vocational degrees are the majority.
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skyth wrote: Yeah, unfortunately, a Bachelors is now required for an entry-level position in a lot of cases.
Only because the US market is an aberration due to the bulge of college degrees looking for positions.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
NinthMusketeer wrote: A factor worth mentioning is that a college degree isn't for everyone.
Indeed. I apprenticed for four years to become a journeyman carpenter, did that for 15 years and then transitioned to cost estimating. The company I work for is paying me to get my PQS certification, I got my job on the strength of my carpentry experience.
My co-workers got their certification at uni and are either from wealthy family or saddled with debt.
Hammertime!
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I love the "I said something stupid, got called out, so now I'll be belligerent about it and double down...that'll show 'em." strategy of these gak heads.
BUT THE KKK WAS DEMOCRATS BYRD CLINTONS GARBLE BARGLE!
Yeah, it's amazing. He also said, "I'd like to see an America that is just so homogeneous that we look a lot the same." Wow.
I'd like to see an America where we value each other as human, regardless of color, origin, or sexual identity. And a government that spends more time worrying about health care, wages, corruption, and safety than building walls, denigrating those who are "different", and who uses which bathroom.
Yeah, it's amazing. He also said, "I'd like to see an America that is just so homogeneous that we look a lot the same." Wow.
Whats wrong with that? Thats the future, and in the future we will all look like Filipinos. Its a good look.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Anyway, it's been a while since I posted here. There's that much going on in the UK, sometimes I forget about the USA. We've got another referendum coming our way.
In the last 3 years, I've had 2 referendums, 1 'federal' level election, 1 'state' election, another 'state' level election in 2 months, and another referendum sometime next year.
I''ve got voting forms coming out my rear!
So, yeah, what's the situation in the USA? Trump still president?
The wall been built yet?
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Anyway, it's been a while since I posted here. There's that much going on in the UK, sometimes I forget about the USA. We've got another referendum coming our way.
In the last 3 years, I've had 2 referendums, 1 'federal' level election, 1 'state' election, another 'state' level election in 2 months, and another referendum sometime next year.
I''ve got voting forms coming out my rear!
So, yeah, what's the situation in the USA? Trump still president?
The wall been built yet?
Remember when a ton of people were like 'dont elect Trump he will be terrible' and Republicans were like 'nah Trump will be OK because reasons'?
In the same vein as college degrees we are coming up on the two year mark with no budget in Illinois and our (and my) universities are starting to really panic
Each day without a budget in Illinois, our college communities move a bit closer toward permanent damage.
Last week, the Senate’s Higher Education Committee heard from top public university officials about how their institutions are doing 21 months into a budget standoff.
Nine universities have dealt with two years’ worth of 34 percent cuts. Southern Illinois University President Randy Dunn told senators his institution cannot survive until the 2018 election “short of hollowing out” core programs, particularly at its Carbondale campus, according to the Daily Egyptian. The southern Illinois region already has been suffering as mining and manufacturing jobs have disappeared.
Illinois State University President Larry Dietz told committee members public universities in Illinois already have been “severely, perhaps irreparably damaged.”
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BigWaaagh wrote: WSJ article with some interesting insight on Bannon. Makes putting the pieces of his ugly puzzle together a bit easier.
Soo.....the KellyAnn idea of how wiretapping microwaves would workin Obama's dystopian future?
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
Article didn't explain much on Bannon. His father lost a bunch to corporate America, like many Americans, and the Steven Bannon is a wealthy financial type who blames it on the bankers and foreigners. So the solution is to remove safety nets and cut taxes for the top?
Oh wait, he figured out angry and hateful people can be hoodwinked, and it can be very profitable, especially when they swallow whatever you feed them. Carry on.
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