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Maybe they should be like Prodos and make a special resin version and sell it.

http://shop.prodosgames.com/http://shop.prodosgames.com/home/342-rob-yourstand.html/342-rob-yourstand.html

For those not in the know, at a convention the super geniuses at Prodos put all their cash from sales in a metal lockbox on the counter and no one was watching it. Some schmuck took off with it getting all the cash from the whole weekend while the employees were doing demos and selling other things.

Ocular pat down fail!

Instead of booth babes it seems vendors need security. Didn't Prodos have someone rob one of their booths recently?

On a completely different note...

Having the old Epic AT models, are they going to be close enough in size that if I were to just grab the rulebooks I should be able to use my old models?

Not that I wouldn't love to get my hands on the new ones, but if I can also use my old models as, say, Mars pattern titans I'd certainly like to find use for them.

I think the size comparisons show the new stuff is alot bigger. Like the an old Emperor class just kinda sorta meets the size requirements for the new warlord size.

 Stormonu wrote:
On a completely different note...

Having the old Epic AT models, are they going to be close enough in size that if I were to just grab the rulebooks I should be able to use my old models?

Not that I wouldn't love to get my hands on the new ones, but if I can also use my old models as, say, Mars pattern titans I'd certainly like to find use for them.

I believe this image from the OP sums it up nicely:

Bit of an unboxing video. Plenty of info we've already heard but some new snippets.
I was most interested in the talk about new plastic weapons, new rules for different legions, and transfer sheets for said legions all as (possible) future releases.

Well, the knight theft means all models now being under lock and key in future open days. No more handling. Little Berk thief...

 zedmeister wrote:
Well, the knight theft means all models now being under lock and key in future open days. No more handling. Little Berk thief...

Wait... What!?!

Someone actually stole an assembled knight for Titanicus?

What.

A.

Bellend.

 zedmeister wrote:
Well, the knight theft means all models now being under lock and key in future open days. No more handling. Little Berk thief...

It sucks that people are so shifty. But they aren't going to stop letting people handle stuff, this isn't the first time this has happened either. This was confirmed by AH or one of the other staff on FB. They should just have a surveillance handling area though if this continues to happen. Or just not let anything slip out of sight, but that can be hard in a busy event.

Soooo....no-option Warlord. and no-option Imperial Knight.

Guess I'm on team Warhound then.

Chopstick wrote:
Soooo....no-option Warlord. and no-option Imperial Knight.

Guess I'm on team Warhound then.

How else will they nickel-and-dime you for upgrade sprues and reboxed solo Warlords with more options?

The real test of how cynical their strategy for this is will be if the main rules don’t include rules for the other Titans and you have to buy their rules later, a la Gang War.

 Stormonu wrote:
On a completely different note...

Having the old Epic AT models, are they going to be close enough in size that if I were to just grab the rulebooks I should be able to use my old models?

Not that I wouldn't love to get my hands on the new ones, but if I can also use my old models as, say, Mars pattern titans I'd certainly like to find use for them.

You could use a lot of the older Warhounds as Knights, and the old plastic Warlords as Warhounds.

Also, quoting myself:

 Darnok wrote:
For those interested in a szie comparison of the old plastic Imperator titan.

On its own...



... and alongside a Primaris Marine and the new Warlord titan (identical base size):



I used this picture for reference:

 zedmeister wrote:

AT Facebook Group:

So the old Imperator titan could still "count as" a Warlord - maybe some fancy variant. But without the castle structures atop of it it would qualify as a Reaver, so...

 Stormonu wrote:
On a completely different note...

Having the old Epic AT models, are they going to be close enough in size that if I were to just grab the rulebooks I should be able to use my old models?

Not that I wouldn't love to get my hands on the new ones, but if I can also use my old models as, say, Mars pattern titans I'd certainly like to find use for them.

I don't think you'll have much of a problem if you only use one set of minis or the other. Mixing will not probably work, given the radical change in size of at least the Warlord.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Soooo....no-option Warlord. and no-option Imperial Knight.

Guess I'm on team Warhound then.

How else will they nickel-and-dime you for upgrade sprues and reboxed solo Warlords with more options?

The real test of how cynical their strategy for this is will be if the main rules don’t include rules for the other Titans and you have to buy their rules later, a la Gang War.

"If". Heh

 Albertorius wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
On a completely different note...

Having the old Epic AT models, are they going to be close enough in size that if I were to just grab the rulebooks I should be able to use my old models?

Not that I wouldn't love to get my hands on the new ones, but if I can also use my old models as, say, Mars pattern titans I'd certainly like to find use for them.

I don't think you'll have much of a problem if you only use one set of minis or the other. Mixing will not probably work, given the radical change in size of at least the Warlord.

It might need a little fudging (e.g. that fire arc template will look a bit silly placed against the smaller base of the old Titans), but yep, I think it should be feasible. As long as both sides use the same mini scale, and your terrain is scaled accordingly.

I don't know much about how the new rules work, though, so I can't be sure.

If worst comes to worst, and the big base size is vital for rules mechanics and whatnot, you could always blu-tac your old based Warlord onto the new Warlord's base for AT games and pretend it's the 'void shield radius' or something. Could even drill it out and do it as an oversized scenic base.

It also looks like the new Knights are roughly the right size for old Reavers. Maybe a bit small, and I do love the old Reavers, but I wouldn't sneeze at an easy way to get a lot of them for Epic. Likewise, new Warlord could make an especially impressive 'true scale' Imperator for Epic, and so on.

Hmm... now that's got me thinking. (A dangerous pastime, I know.)

changemod wrote:
They probably won’t consider it that big a deal that someone palmed an unpainted model worth what, £10-12 when you factor in it’s a third of a kit?

Theft = Bad, sure, but it’s not really damaging to the company.

I imagine it's more about having one before release. Even if you can never brag about it.

Overall a ****y, petty thing to do.

Zenithfleet wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
On a completely different note...

Having the old Epic AT models, are they going to be close enough in size that if I were to just grab the rulebooks I should be able to use my old models?

Not that I wouldn't love to get my hands on the new ones, but if I can also use my old models as, say, Mars pattern titans I'd certainly like to find use for them.

I don't think you'll have much of a problem if you only use one set of minis or the other. Mixing will not probably work, given the radical change in size of at least the Warlord.

It might need a little fudging (e.g. that fire arc template will look a bit silly placed against the smaller base of the old Titans), but yep, I think it should be feasible. As long as both sides use the same mini scale, and your terrain is scaled accordingly.

As far as I can see, the fire arc template is only to divide the oval base into equal quadrants - no need to use it with models on other-shaped bases - either eyeball it or paint marks onto the bases (original 60mm titan bases have 8 marks around the rim at 45degree increments anyway).

Zenithfleet wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
On a completely different note...

Having the old Epic AT models, are they going to be close enough in size that if I were to just grab the rulebooks I should be able to use my old models?

Not that I wouldn't love to get my hands on the new ones, but if I can also use my old models as, say, Mars pattern titans I'd certainly like to find use for them.

I don't think you'll have much of a problem if you only use one set of minis or the other. Mixing will not probably work, given the radical change in size of at least the Warlord.

It might need a little fudging (e.g. that fire arc template will look a bit silly placed against the smaller base of the old Titans), but yep, I think it should be feasible. As long as both sides use the same mini scale, and your terrain is scaled accordingly.

I don't know much about how the new rules work, though, so I can't be sure.

If worst comes to worst, and the big base size is vital for rules mechanics and whatnot, you could always blu-tac your old based Warlord onto the new Warlord's base for AT games and pretend it's the 'void shield radius' or something. Could even drill it out and do it as an oversized scenic base.

It also looks like the new Knights are roughly the right size for old Reavers. Maybe a bit small, and I do love the old Reavers, but I wouldn't sneeze at an easy way to get a lot of them for Epic. Likewise, new Warlord could make an especially impressive 'true scale' Imperator for Epic, and so on.

Hmm... now that's got me thinking. (A dangerous pastime, I know.)

I’m not quite as confident there.

See, previously Reavers and Warlords were on the same sized Titan Base. With the new version, it’s likely if you can fit your base between buildings, you can’t take that route. And being a game of manoeuvring as much as sheer Dakka, that could mean you miss out on some of the intended challenges.

Stratagems for Battlefield Asests - interesting.

And here’s a quote from the original that I hope still carries meaning!

The arming of Titans must, by necessity, always be a compromise. To gain long range you must sacrifice firepower, and vice versa. You must approach this decision at two levels.
Firstly the level of the individual Titan. Consider carefully what it must achieve and how its armament will affect its ability to fulfil its objective.

Secondly, the level of the force itself: this may be the Legion as a whole or a battle group on a particular mission. Never forget that a Titan force is a team - a single body, and may have specialised members designed for specific tasks.

Meditate on the subject if you feel the need, or consult the Imperial Tarot. The decision is important, so do not take it lightly.
- De Bellis Titanicus, attributed

Awesome quote, Mad Doc! I too hope it's still relevant

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
On a completely different note...

Having the old Epic AT models, are they going to be close enough in size that if I were to just grab the rulebooks I should be able to use my old models?

Not that I wouldn't love to get my hands on the new ones, but if I can also use my old models as, say, Mars pattern titans I'd certainly like to find use for them.

I believe this image from the OP sums it up nicely:

Spoiler:

Yikes, that’s quite the difference!

Definitely interested in pick this up now, at least for the models.

The push-fit models in the Warhammer box sets usually don't have all the options either. It's pretty normal for the basic game to have limited options and the full option kit to be sold separately later.

Having seen them In person now, Warlords are more like Armigers or a Telemon Dreadnought than anything else in size. I have a feeling that storing and transporting an army for this game will be very reasonable in practice.

And if we follow the likely size progression based off the differences between Titan classes so far, I’d wager an Imperator would end up around imperial knight size.

Game will have to be blood bowl successful to get Things like imperators that they said they wouldn’t do.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Game will have to be blood bowl successful to get Things like imperators that they said they wouldn’t do.

I’d expect an Imperator in the context of it coming out in full scale first, given this is a side thing. Whilst making it for Titanicus would probably be more sensible and pragmatic, I don’t see it it happening for a long while.

Well, if an Imperator is 40K knight sized, I can see folks just using their Knights if GW/ Forgeworld doesn’t make ‘em.

Though that would be a hilarious wrap-around - someone’s then going to take their Forgeworld war hound and make it a Grendel-class behemoth of a titan...

Is "Grendel-class" an actual 40k-universe titan size? Googling it came up empty for me...

If they’re the same size, I might just get a warlord and use it as a knight...

 RiTides wrote:
Is "Grendel-class" an actual 40k-universe titan size? Googling it came up empty for me...

Never heard of that myself. Maybe the person just speculating on "what would be a really big thing" name.

nickelkers wrote:
If they’re the same size, I might just get a warlord and use it as a knight...

They're Thanatar sized. Smaller than a knight for sure