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tneva82 wrote:


Yes though I think there's been talk of expanding those into own classes of their own.

Ok, that would be cool. Especially with some chassis differences.

This might also be the way to introduce new weapons sprues, in addition to making them available as upgrade packs.

Mendi Warrior wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
But the warlord/reaver/warhound should probably remain the staple of the game.

Why? The whole point of AT is to not be limited by zillion dolar resin junk, but to make large scale Titan battles viable. And these most definitely weren't fought by just three classes - look at the FW Horus Heresy books, the Nemesis Class Titan is mentioned nearly as often as Warlord Battle Titan, and I'd really like to see it in plastic...

Isn't the Nemesis Class a sub-class of Warlords with a specific weapons load like the Eclipse, Night Gaunt, Death Bringer, …

If I'm sure we'll see more (weel, at least I hope so) imho the 3 classes mentioned will be the most commonly encountered on tabletops

Really nice fluff nugget in the bottom left caption on that image.

Yep, I like them a lot, good source of inspiration too

I was bored enough once to decode the variant codes used on all the original Adeptus Titanicus datacards. I wonder if I can work it back into the new game ...

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
I was bored enough once to decode the variant codes used on all the original Adeptus Titanicus datacards. I wonder if I can work it back into the new game ...

How did it worked exactly?

MBTW for Main Battle Titan Warlord I would guess, then a code for the variant, its VSG value and the last 4 seems to be the weapons load (e.g. X for chainfist, Z for powerfist, ...)

 General Helstrom wrote:
I'd actually be cool with there being not too many additional releases for AT. The triad of Titans slated for release and the weapons that have cards for them should make for a nicely balanced game. More releases - which means more funky special rules and one-upmanship - could easily cause the game to bloat and become unbalanced.

Yeah the more comments I see like this the more I feel like I am beginning to feel what is best for the gaming community. I now think GW should hold off releasing the Warhound and Reaver indefinitely, and just keep releasing the Warlord over and over again. Maybe keep the Knights around, but limit their number. I am sure someone will find a way to break the game with them. So what we'll be left with is a single model we all know and love and would make the game perfectly balanced. And at $110 a pop we all should be happy to build up an army of 5 models for $550.

The best part is imagining how people wont get bored of this, and the game will still be played by everyone a year or two from now. And if anyone gets any idea of moving on to a game with more models and more variety in tactics, we can just smack them and tell them they wont find a more balanced game than the new AT.


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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
I was bored enough once to decode the variant codes used on all the original Adeptus Titanicus datacards. I wonder if I can work it back into the new game ...

We did something similar for SM2 for point values and weapons, to try and make rules for the newer units in SM2 so we could play with them in the AT/SM1 system. It wasn't perfect, but we would compare units that appeared in both systems and try to create formulas to we could look at something like a Squat Land Train and convert it to SM1. I had all these crazy sheets summarizing how a unit that might move 15cm in the newer system might move something like 12/24 or whatever in the old, and so on.

We were dragged kicking and screaming into SM2/TL, but once we did we rarely went back. Some of the best games I ever played were in AT/SM1 though.

 KTG17 wrote:
Yeah the more comments I see like this the more I feel like I am beginning to feel what is best for the gaming community. I now think GW should hold off releasing the Warhound and Reaver indefinitely, and just keep releasing the Warlord over and over again. Maybe keep the Knights around, but limit their number. I am sure someone will find a way to break the game with them. So what we'll be left with is a single model we all know and love and would make the game perfectly balanced. And at $110 a pop we all should be happy to build up an army of 5 models for $550.

The best part is imagining how people wont get bored of this, and the game will still be played by everyone a year or two from now. And if anyone gets any idea of moving on to a game with more models and more variety in tactics, we can just smack them and tell them they wont find a more balanced game than the new AT.

Instead, let's keep throwing rules at the game until everyone has an exception to everything (including each other's exceptions), all represented in miniatures of course and printed in about a dozen supplements, FAQs and errata so players end up lugging around more paper than plastic.

Or we could not be twits and refrain from dragging each other's arguments to ridiculous extremes, but that might be too much to ask.

 General Helstrom wrote:

 KTG17 wrote:
Yeah the more comments I see like this the more I feel like I am beginning to feel what is best for the gaming community. I now think GW should hold off releasing the Warhound and Reaver indefinitely, and just keep releasing the Warlord over and over again. Maybe keep the Knights around, but limit their number. I am sure someone will find a way to break the game with them. So what we'll be left with is a single model we all know and love and would make the game perfectly balanced. And at $110 a pop we all should be happy to build up an army of 5 models for $550.

The best part is imagining how people wont get bored of this, and the game will still be played by everyone a year or two from now. And if anyone gets any idea of moving on to a game with more models and more variety in tactics, we can just smack them and tell them they wont find a more balanced game than the new AT.

Instead, let's keep throwing rules at the game until everyone has an exception to everything (including each other's exceptions), all represented in miniatures of course and printed in about a dozen supplements, FAQs and errata so players end up lugging around more paper than plastic.

Or we could not be twits and refrain from dragging each other's arguments to ridiculous extremes, but that might be too much to ask.

Reductio ad absurdum could be a good motto for a Legion.

I would like to remind people that Rule #1 is not optional.

 General Helstrom wrote:

Instead, let's keep throwing rules at the game until everyone has an exception to everything (including each other's exceptions), all represented in miniatures of course and printed in about a dozen supplements, FAQs and errata so players end up lugging around more paper than plastic.

Or we could not be twits and refrain from dragging each other's arguments to ridiculous extremes, but that might be too much to ask.

If you are throwing rules at the game it means people are asking for more, so that means the game is selling and people will want it expanded on. By coming out and saying, 'Hey we're only going to do X and leave it at that, regardless of how well its received or demanded" then people wont invest in it, or if they do, only to a certain point (How many Warlords, Reavers, or Warhounds will someone buy?). The game will whither and die, although we'll have a few die-hards like you posting how great they think the game is and wished more people played it while everyone else will have moved on to something more exciting.

GW isn't going to throw money at a dead product, so the fact that they would expand on it means there is demand for it. I would demand it myself in hopes that it would keep people interested in the game, rather than throwing what they bought up on eBay. And I have never seen GW put out a perfect rules system anyway, so I can't expect that I will think what they have done up to this point will be either.

tneva82 wrote:

vegeta365 wrote:
Xenos is coming. The only thing stopping it is poor sales. Tony Cottrell said they would do the other races. It is Epic that is a ? I think it will definitely come as they deliberately sized the scale so that you could tell the difference in mk armour on a space marine but Tony did say that they are not making the mistake they did last time and rushing into Epic. It will be a long long way off.

6mm allows distinction of marks as well. Well at least 3rd parties can.

Who is already doing this?

I'd love to see some examples!

3rd party individuals. Due to ip issues not publicly on sale. Don't have any but seen mk4 and maybe mk3 marines(along with angron, contemptators, sicarans etc)

tneva82 wrote:
3rd party individuals. Due to ip issues not publicly on sale. Don't have any but seen mk4 and maybe mk3 marines(along with angron, contemptators, sicarans etc)

Meh, I could see a tiny bit more size being useful for painting and such as the current stuff is still a bit tiny for that kind of detail. It's good and yes, you can tell, but a 1/3 increase in size would be great for slightly better painting results.

Mendi Warrior wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
I was bored enough once to decode the variant codes used on all the original Adeptus Titanicus datacards. I wonder if I can work it back into the new game ...

How did it worked exactly?

MBTW for Main Battle Titan Warlord I would guess, then a code for the variant, its VSG value and the last 4 seems to be the weapons load (e.g. X for chainfist, Z for powerfist, ...)

MBT for Main Battle Titan , W for Warlord. Next letter is the speed, the number after that the void shield count. The four letters after the slash indicate the weapon and the number of barrels (up to four; super-heavy weapons always have one barrel, so they only have one letter each). Not every combination is actually present (even adding in the six datacards for Warhounds and Reavers in WD 109) but there's enough to fill in the gaps

Rule #1 please! - BrookM

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

Mendi Warrior wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
I was bored enough once to decode the variant codes used on all the original Adeptus Titanicus datacards. I wonder if I can work it back into the new game ...

How did it worked exactly?

MBTW for Main Battle Titan Warlord I would guess, then a code for the variant, its VSG value and the last 4 seems to be the weapons load (e.g. X for chainfist, Z for powerfist, ...)

MBT for Main Battle Titan , W for Warlord. Next letter is the speed, the number after that the void shield count. The four letters after the slash indicate the weapon and the number of barrels (up to four; super-heavy weapons always have one barrel, so they only have one letter each). Not every combination is actually present (even adding in the six datacards for Warhounds and Reavers in WD 109) but there's enough to fill in the gaps

Cool, thanks

Are there any good online locations for seeing a comparison of all the known Titan legion schemes and iconography?

 ph34r wrote:
Are there any good online locations for seeing a comparison of all the known Titan legion schemes and iconography?

I've been looking at schemes lately, just single google images, I noticed they're mostly in the FW HH book style of art. So if you have access to those books I imagine there will be a fair few variations to peruse.

eg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/27/21/bf2721e2486b3cba3a9ae80c4b61d3f6.jpg
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/cc/War_Maniple_Ferrum_Mori.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121018195335
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/f/f1/True_Messengers_Reaver_Gyrfalcon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150605183938

I expect we'll see an expansion of titan legion artwork come the release of AT.

 ph34r wrote:
Are there any good online locations for seeing a comparison of all the known Titan legion schemes and iconography?

Folks on the ADEPTUS TITANICUS 2018 facebook group are putting up collage pics of various legios, showing them as pictured by 1990's GW, by Forge World and by Specialist Games today.

This page has a decent number at the bottom
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Collegia_Titanica

 ph34r wrote:
Are there any good online locations for seeing a comparison of all the known Titan legion schemes and iconography?

Do you have any particular favourite Forgeworld?

I'm tempted myself to go with Legio Praesagius for some reason I like the idea of it....... and and I can force feed my titans to the next person who complains the Kronor system was irrelevant

BrianDavion wrote:
I'm tempted myself to go with Legio Praesagius for some reason I like the idea of it....... and and I can force feed my titans to the next person who complains the Kronor system was irrelevant

I've always liked the blue/pale grey/white/combination of these as a colour scheme. I got decent at painting it http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics12/img4742e66d1414e.jpg but I'm definitely going back to red and black for my Legion. Praesagius does look prety though, as does Tempestus https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/b/b6/Legio_Tempestus_Mars_Pattern_Reaver2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150114215425
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/9/93/Legio_Tempestus_Warhound2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150115013335

I'm considering just an all-out copy of This Guy

JWBS wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
I'm tempted myself to go with Legio Praesagius for some reason I like the idea of it....... and and I can force feed my titans to the next person who complains the Kronor system was irrelevant

I've always liked the blue/pale grey/white/combination of these as a colour scheme. I got decent at painting it http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics12/img4742e66d1414e.jpg but I'm definitely going back to red and black for my Legion. Praesagius does look prety though, as does Tempestus https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/b/b6/Legio_Tempestus_Mars_Pattern_Reaver2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150114215425
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/9/93/Legio_Tempestus_Warhound2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150115013335

yeha, if it was totally white it'd be a concern, but it's more of a cream, so should be easy eneugh, prime in a grey, and then screaming skull..

BrianDavion wrote:

JWBS wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
I'm tempted myself to go with Legio Praesagius for some reason I like the idea of it....... and and I can force feed my titans to the next person who complains the Kronor system was irrelevant

I've always liked the blue/pale grey/white/combination of these as a colour scheme. I got decent at painting it http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics12/img4742e66d1414e.jpg but I'm definitely going back to red and black for my Legion. Praesagius does look prety though, as does Tempestus https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/b/b6/Legio_Tempestus_Mars_Pattern_Reaver2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150114215425
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/9/93/Legio_Tempestus_Warhound2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150115013335

yeha, if it was totally white it'd be a concern, but it's more of a cream, so should be easy eneugh, prime in a grey, and then screaming skull..

Yeah white is a bugger, no doubt. I might have painted up some Novamarines at some point if white wasn't such a hassle.

Iv'e always been a fan of the Warp Runners (Legio Astorum):



(I wonder if they will have some pre-game ability to represent their arrival via teleportation?)

 Mysterio wrote:
Iv'e always been a fan of the Warp Runners (Legio Astorum):



(I wonder if they will have some pre-game ability to represent their arrival via teleportation?)

The Corona is a nice mark. Chevrons too. Must have chevrons. I might be tempted to switch the colour of the head to something more complementary but I'm a bit conventional when it comes to painting, too many failed experiments.

Just got an email saying my GME has been shipped! That was quick.

 KTG17 wrote:
Just got an email saying my GME has been shipped! That was quick.

I got mine last night.