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 Mr_Rose wrote:
The Rules Pack has the battlefield objectives and markers sprue; that includes three turning/corridor templates for the three Titan classes.
If you get one and copy the curve and width of the middle template you’ll probably be fine.

Great idea, I try that!

Thanks folks!

 Stormonu wrote:
Another half-sprue of weapon options wouldn’t have killed them - its a minor gripe, but missing the rocket pod at the very least is ...silly.

Also, someone mentioned Knights being really good with charge orders - I don’t have my book in front of me, but I know they don’t get a slam attack - do they get their other melee attack on the charge as well (the powerfist/chainsword)? I seem to remember from the wording they did not?

I wouldn't even have minded if the weapon options still came out separately, but it would have been better if they'd been scheduled to come alongside or soon after their related kit. Even the following month would have been better than having to wait until the end of the year before we even start getting upgrade frames.

The reaver goes up for pre order next weekend, so not long now.

 Thargrim wrote:
The reaver goes up for pre order next weekend, so not long now.

*sighs* MY WALLET!

BrianDavion wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
The reaver goes up for pre order next weekend, so not long now.

*sighs* MY WALLET!

Won't somebody please think of the money!

Will you need the weapons cards for the reaver, if you've already got the GE box or the rules box, I wonder?

richstrach wrote:
Will you need the weapons cards for the reaver, if you've already got the GE box or the rules box, I wonder?

All of the cards included with the rules box/GM edition (what you get in the GM box is exactly the same stuff as the separate rule set, just no box) are tagged to specific Titan classes. They include cards specifically for the Warlord, Reaver, and Warhounds already. But likely there will be different weapons in the future from those, and you may need more than they give depending on how you set up and arm your forces. So there will quite likely be more weapon cards in the future. As a side note, the rules provide everything needed for those three classes of Titans already, from control boards and templates, to the weapon cards.

So, £45 for a Reaver?

Aside from the default Warlord loadout, the Rules/GME box only gives you one of each card. If you field multiple Reavers or Warhounds you would probably need more cards.


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 Azreal13 wrote:
So, £45 for a Reaver?

Well there's September WD pics floating around already for the AoS release, so hopefully we'll know soon.

be nice to know, my birthday's on the 4th so I need to know how much of my beer money to set aside. I want two!

Perhaps the reaver (and future releases) include a copy each of the weapon cards it can slot?

edit: Never mind, just read about the "Reaver weapon card pack". So I guess were getting card packs for each of the titans. Fair enough I guess.

Soulless wrote:
Perhaps the reaver (and future releases) include a copy each of the weapon cards it can slot?

edit: Never mind, just read about the "Reaver weapon card pack". So I guess were getting card packs for each of the titans. Fair enough I guess.

You get the weapon card and 2 terminals of each titans in the rule set, but if you want to have more than that you'll need the terminal and the weapon card.

Good to see the Reaver coming out relatively quickly - the game really does need the the core titans to play "properly."

Now just waiting for the Warhound, which will hopefully come in Orktober.

Chopstick wrote:

Soulless wrote:
Perhaps the reaver (and future releases) include a copy each of the weapon cards it can slot?

edit: Never mind, just read about the "Reaver weapon card pack". So I guess were getting card packs for each of the titans. Fair enough I guess.

You get the weapon card and 2 terminals of each titans in the rule set, but if you want to have more than that you'll need the terminal and the weapon card.

Or a photocopier...

 Yodhrin wrote:

Chopstick wrote:

Soulless wrote:
Perhaps the reaver (and future releases) include a copy each of the weapon cards it can slot?

edit: Never mind, just read about the "Reaver weapon card pack". So I guess were getting card packs for each of the titans. Fair enough I guess.

You get the weapon card and 2 terminals of each titans in the rule set, but if you want to have more than that you'll need the terminal and the weapon card.

Or a photocopier...

How dare you... the first responsibility of a GW Super Fan is to spend more money instead of make your own game aides.

Got hold of the Rules Set last week. Nice package. And reasonably priced even at Aus prices, given what you get in the box.

I've spotted a few typos in the rulebook so far. There's one in the scenario for the ghosts/stealth scenario in the fog, whatever it's called, that mentions a template marked O when I think they mean X. Couple of others here and there.

And though it's not technically a typo, I was amused by the 'methods of play' introduction that spends a few paragraphs talking about how the game is designed for a 4'x4' battlefield... and is then immediately followed by a bunch of narrative scenarios, of which four use a 6'x4' board...

But I'm disappointed in the fluff and artwork. There's not much of either.

Artwork I can understand, as I imagine Forgeworld and Specialist Brands in particular have far fewer resources available for that sort of thing than GW proper. They get an awful lot of mileage out of those front-on technical drawings of the Titans, but most of the other 'art' is just photos of the miniatures with Photoshopped explosions and such.

The lack of fluff is making me cranky, though. I don't remember the original Adeptus Titanicus--by the time I got into Epic, the focus had shifted away to troops and tanks--so a lot of the basics of how Titans work pass me by. Old school GW would have had a big section at the start talking about how Titans work, how Princeps and Moderati control them, and all that jazz. Instead all we get is a summary of the Great Crusade, Mars and the Heresy, followed by a list of notable battles involving Titans. (Admittedly there are bits and pieces of stuff about the reactor, the machine spirit and so on scattered through the rules, but that's not enough for me.)

The biggest thing that's missing is some kind of human element. There are a few snippets about various Princeps (Princepses?), but not enough for me to really get a handle on what it's like to be one.

I keep thinking of that old story about the guy with the Reaver Titan--Clavigera or something. Think it was by Bill King. The Princeps thinks his Titan's been wrecked in battle and he's made a hash of things, and will probably never pilot a Titan again... until he's called into a dark hangar and the lights go on and there's his Reaver all fixed up and gleaming, with his entire crew standing there grinning and congratulating him on his medal.

I read that in a reprint version somewhere (in one of the Firepower mags, I think), and to date it's the only thing I've ever read that actually made me understand and empathise with the people who make up the Titan Legions. Without that it's just a bunch of Legion names and an endless parade of big robots shooting at other big robots.

I guess with the new AT they're assuming veterans will remember the old game and not need Titan Legions 101 fluff, but for someone like me, it's hard to care much.

Again, I know FW doesn't have the resources of GW, but I was hoping for an approach a bit more like Battlefleet Gothic, which had artwork of captains and officers, and pictures of crews loading giant torpedoes, and tons of fluff about the glorious histories of individual ships, a la World War I or II history books.

Oh well. Maybe we'll get more of that in supplements.

Anyway, speaking of typos...

 Kirasu wrote:

How dare you... the first responsibility of a GW Super Fan is to spend more money instead of make your own game aides.

*pauses in the act of installing lobotomy chip* Wait, so I shouldn't make my own Servitors? Now you tell me...

Never mind, just read about the "Reaver weapon card pack". So I guess were getting card packs for each of the titans. Fair enough I guess.

Separately so they can charge you for them.

But I'm disappointed in the fluff and artwork. There's not much of either.

Artwork I can understand, as I imagine Forgeworld and Specialist Brands in particular have far fewer resources available for that sort of thing than GW proper. They get an awful lot of mileage out of those front-on technical drawings of the Titans, but most of the other 'art' is just photos of the miniatures with Photoshopped explosions and such.

Really, with that pricetag they could have afforded both.

the lack of much in the way of fluff was something I noticed too I would have appreciated a bit more info about how the titan legions are orginized. But I have a hunch they're expecting this to be filled in by black library etc

There's a black book, Horus Heresy style planned based on the Titandeath. I can imagine that there'll be supplements that expand on it over time as well

Facebook group posting price listing of reavers at £35 each, way cheaper than I was expecting, £28 with discount

 Mothman wrote:
Facebook group posting price listing of reavers at £35 each, way cheaper than I was expecting, £28 with discount

wow that's gonna be about 65 USD yeah? VERY reasonable. but it makes some sense, Warlords are the big bad, and we're only going to have 1 or 2. Reavers are intended as the "back bone" or "work horse" the price needed to be good as we're all going to end up needing 2 or 3.

I guess £35 after discount, happy with that shall get 2 to start with (I am running two legions for demo purposes) will probably end up with 3 on each side supported by two Warlords.

That price is excellent, about £10 less than I was expecting.

As far as the complaints on the lack of fluff in the rule book go, all I can say is good. I'm going to have to carry this book around with me everytime I want to play a game, I do not want it weighing an absolute ton becuase it's 2 to 3 times the size it should be.


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Daston wrote:
I guess £35 after discount, happy with that shall get 2 to start with (I am running two legions for demo purposes) will probably end up with 3 on each side supported by two Warlords.

No, thats £35 RRP, so discount will be less.

Regarding the fluff, what more do you want from the beginning rule book? It details the crusade, the discovery of the legions, the diaspora and the founding of new Forge Worlds, and the narrative scenarios themselves are fluff; part of the background of the Heresy, ‘historical’ depictions of ‘actual’ events.
It also has those neat snippets from the rise of a Princeps from Warhound pilot all the way to commencement speaker for the graduating class of their branch of the collegiate titanica, which presumably makes her at least princeps seniores, but maybe princeps maximus.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Regarding the fluff, what more do you want from the beginning rule book? It details the crusade, the discovery of the legions, the diaspora and the founding of new Forge Worlds, and the narrative scenarios themselves are fluff; part of the background of the Heresy, ‘historical’ depictions of ‘actual’ events.
It also has those neat snippets from the rise of a Princeps from Warhound pilot all the way to commencement speaker for the graduating class of their branch of the collegiate titanica, which presumably makes her at least princeps seniores, but maybe princeps maximus.

I'd have liked to see a little more fluff on how titan legions are orginized, but I'm guessing that'll come. I'm a fluff fanatic, to be honest, no amount of fluff is eneugh for me, I consume that stuff

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Regarding the fluff, what more do you want from the beginning rule book? It details the crusade, the discovery of the legions, the diaspora and the founding of new Forge Worlds, and the narrative scenarios themselves are fluff; part of the background of the Heresy, ‘historical’ depictions of ‘actual’ events.
It also has those neat snippets from the rise of a Princeps from Warhound pilot all the way to commencement speaker for the graduating class of their branch of the collegiate titanica, which presumably makes her at least princeps seniores, but maybe princeps maximus.

What it feels like to be crew of titan so it's not just nameless robot firing at another robot.

That is good news, I was afraid it would have been more.

£28 for a Reaver from my normal supplier makes being able to field my goal of three very realistic next month. Now if only they'd hurry up with more weapon options...

If the reavers come in at less than £30 from the online discounters I'll be buying more of them than originally planned. It could make the game look a lot more affordable to other players too.

£35 *should* be $45, but I know GW has its own math when it comes to conversion rates.

What does GW think £35 converts to for US$?