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I would still love to see an updated version of that old design.

That's what the new plastic kit is.

The two are clearly different design pattern though...It's not updated version of old design but completely new design.

Now we're nitpicking what "updated" means. if you look at the current model, you can clearly see that the new one takes a lot of design cues from the original - the head, the toes, the basic shape. It's clearly based on that original design, not just a completely new model. Unlike, say, the Eldar Revenant, which has had a massive redesign between the original 2nd edition model and the current design from Epic Armageddon.

Oh boy...just an updated Warhound design with the guns mounted vertically like the old design. Whatever you want to call it is something I leave up to you...

 Malika2 wrote:
Oh boy...just an updated Warhound design with the guns mounted vertically like the old design. Whatever you want to call it is something I leave up to you...

Primus Pattern Wolfhound?

BrianDavion wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
Oh boy...just an updated Warhound design with the guns mounted vertically like the old design. Whatever you want to call it is something I leave up to you...

Primus Pattern Wolfhound?

Hell yeah!

I have never liked Warhounds, any version of them. I really hope the make Knight Porphyrions. They're about the same size but look so much better.

I wonder if it would be difficult to change the weapon mount on the new kit to match the old. Might give it a try when I get mine.

Looking at the pictures of the sprues this seem not too difficult to achieve. If the cables are "attached" to the body in a similar way as for the ones on the legs of the reaver this part should not even be a problem. Might give it a try as well.

I would love to see the original design come back, one of my all-time favorites. Love the spiky crest

I have bunch of the old Warhounds. I wonder what the size difference between the old and new.

I'll say I've never loved the old Warhounds...and never generally liked the 28mm scale remakes. But somehow the AT version (and maybe it's just the particularly slick paintjob, etc.) really nails the perfect spot between them.

The teeth/nostrils are better than the "my nose is a 1950's delivery truck"...and yet overall it's not as comical as the much older stuff.

I think it's a home run. However I also love the Reaver (because of the same balance of old/new), and really dislike the Warlord (waaaaay too boring and "clean").

 clodax66 wrote:
I have bunch of the old Warhounds. I wonder what the size difference between the old and new.

I have some old metal Warhounds myself, and they are about the same size as the new plastic AT Knights. Even a bit smaller due to their stalking pose.

 Darnok wrote:

 clodax66 wrote:
I have bunch of the old Warhounds. I wonder what the size difference between the old and new.

I have some old metal Warhounds myself, and they are about the same size as the new plastic AT Knights. Even a bit smaller due to their stalking pose.

After I put my Reaver together, I pulled out my old Snapper Gargant (the one with the giant jaws in the belly instead of the belly cannon, though both types used mostly the same model). It was slightly over half the height of the Reaver.

Yeah there is a definite scale difference.

On the other hand - in the fullness of time - when they eventually get around to doing Eldar and Ork titans, they are going to look amazing.

If they do expand, Orks will be first. I'd very much like AT scale Orks.

Hopefully in a Grand Warboss edition.

Ben2 wrote:
If they do expand, Orks will be first. I'd very much like AT scale Orks.

Hopefully in a Grand Warboss edition.

Why would Orks be first?

Not being snarky, just curious as to your thoughts...

Mostly because that's what the Specialist Games team have said; whenever the subject of aliens titans has come up the response has been along the lines of "we could do Adeptus Titanicus: The Beast Arises to add Orks, and then some other campaign to add Eldar".

 Padre wrote:

Ben2 wrote:
If they do expand, Orks will be first. I'd very much like AT scale Orks.

Hopefully in a Grand Warboss edition.

Why would Orks be first?

Not being snarky, just curious as to your thoughts...

In fluff terms, Orks tend to be the classic match-up for fighting humies. Or they were back in the day.

In rules terms, their Gargants (and Stompas) tend to be somewhat similar to Imperial Titans. At least in the editions of Epic I've played (don't know about the original Titanicus). There are a few differences, like power fields instead of void shields, more structure points but weaker armour, oddball weapons and a tendency to catch fire yet keep on trucking... but they shouldn't be too hard to do in terms of mechanics and balance.

Eldar Titans tend to go all fancy-pants with the special rules (holofields, dying if you sneeze at them sideways, etc.) and would probably be trickier to balance. Would be cool to see Eldar Knights, though.

I'd dearly love to see Tyranid bio-titans--especially if the sculptors bring back more of the old-school look--but I doubt we will anytime soon, given that the hungry space dino-rabbits* haven't shown up in the galaxy at the time of the Heresy.

But in the near future I expect it'll be mostly variant Imperial Titans (let's have a Lucius Warlord all Battleteched up, please!) and hopefully some properly twisted Chaos ones.

*I live in Australia. Rabbits are basically Hive Fleet Kraken with floppy ears.

Zenithfleet wrote:
I'd dearly love to see Tyranid bio-titans--especially if the sculptors bring back more of the old-school look--but I doubt we will anytime soon, given that the hungry space dino-rabbits* haven't shown up in the galaxy at the time of the Heresy.

That is hardly a issue though as there's nothing stopping from FW to use same rules and models in different periods. Ork expansion? Great beast possible. Eldar? Whatever. Tyranid? 40k. Imperial titans don't change so having tyranid expansion in 40k doesn't really break things.

The only actual problem with this start to the game is that the heretic titans are fairly locked to specific events, as they started to grow spikes not long after.

tneva82 wrote:

Zenithfleet wrote:
I'd dearly love to see Tyranid bio-titans--especially if the sculptors bring back more of the old-school look--but I doubt we will anytime soon, given that the hungry space dino-rabbits* haven't shown up in the galaxy at the time of the Heresy.

That is hardly a issue though as there's nothing stopping from FW to use same rules and models in different periods. Ork expansion? Great beast possible. Eldar? Whatever. Tyranid? 40k. Imperial titans don't change so having tyranid expansion in 40k doesn't really break things.

Very true, and I hope FW does just that.

On the other hand, GW/FW games often stick to a particular setting to keep the scope from becoming overwhelming. For instance, Battlefleet Gothic only included Gothic Sector factions at first. It took a long time for stuff from other parts of the galaxy and other time periods, such as Orks at Armageddon, Tyranids and Tau, to show up in the game. (When discussing the failure of Epic 40,000 back in the day, Jervis commented that BFG's defined, limited and thoroughly detailed setting was a point in its favour--leading him to try doing the same thing with Epic Armageddon a bit halfheartedly and with mixed results.)

I don't know what the current Specialist team's opinion is about this sort of thing, though.

In the case of Adeptus Titanicus, Orks and Eldar fit in just fine to the rough time period. But plonk Tyranids in and suddenly you're in the 41st (or 42nd) millennium. People would start demanding Tau and Necrons and whatevertheheckelse has woken up by then, and complaining that they're not available. FW is a small team and that kind of commitment could be too much to take on.

Don't get me wrong though--I'd love to see it happen.

Slightly off-topic question. Does anyone have a comparison photo (or could they snap one) of a Reaver Titan vs. a Contemptor Dreadnought? I'd like to add a Contemptor to my 40K force, but hate the model. Considering kit-bashing one from a Reaver --- but I can't get a good scale comparison.

Thanks!

 Elbows wrote:
Slightly off-topic question. Does anyone have a comparison photo (or could they snap one) of a Reaver Titan vs. a Contemptor Dreadnought? I'd like to add a Contemptor to my 40K force, but hate the model. Considering kit-bashing one from a Reaver --- but I can't get a good scale comparison.

Thanks!

I don't have any Contemptors but have played agaisnt them as proxies, the Reaver is a few cm taller than a Contemptor and on a considerably bigger base.

I hope they take their sweet time with expanding the available factions. One of the reoccurring criticisms toward AT from other 40k players is that they conflate the # of units available with the tactical depth and number of options since list-building is 70% of the 'tactics' in 40k.

Imo, the large number of units available in 40k is to blame for its terribly bloated, yet somehow still overly simplistic rules. I fear that if AT's model count bloats up over time and new editions appear, they will add a pile of special rules and gimmicks. Combine this with the fact that the original writer already quit WG - and any expansions may not be written with the same vision in mind.

I'd love to see new factions, but I'd prefer to not see them at all rather than have them done poorly, or each with their own pile of special rules that take away from the already decent tactical depth of the base rules.

For example, if eldar titans were slightly faster, had less draining weapons (and still had the perks like shieldbane), slightly better shields, slightly better turning, and weaker bodies - that would be plenty enough to make them different and thematic and that difference would have a tactical significance. I could easily see a bad writer decide to add stupid gimmicks instead like eldar titans with automatic +1 cover, deep strike like rules, and other junk that complicated the game without really adding anything to it.

Yeah, I can reduce a base size, that doesn't bug me, but it does look a chunk larger. Will have to see. I don't mind making my Contemptor a bit larger if needed.

 Elbows wrote:
Slightly off-topic question. Does anyone have a comparison photo (or could they snap one) of a Reaver Titan vs. a Contemptor Dreadnought? I'd like to add a Contemptor to my 40K force, but hate the model. Considering kit-bashing one from a Reaver --- but I can't get a good scale comparison.

Thanks!

Not the best example since the dreadnought is on a scenic base. On a flat base the head would barely reach the barrels of the gatling gun. Reavers also have a pretty wide stance.
https://imgur.com/a/pM2zxyc

As far as everything that's been announced goes, the only thing we're waiting on are Warlord weapons right?
Have there been any rumors as to anything else planned for Titanicus? Knight variants? Chaos themed armor plating? Campaign book? Painting guide?

 gruebot wrote:
As far as everything that's been announced goes, the only thing we're waiting on are Warlord weapons right?
Have there been any rumors as to anything else planned for Titanicus? Knight variants? Chaos themed armor plating? Campaign book? Painting guide?

Warlord & Reaver weapons are confirmed as happening in both plastic and resin. Some of them are shown in rulebook pictures, along with a stormspear rocket pod part for knights.

The developers have also talked about a number of other things but with few specific details, including expansion books and new knights / titans. We haven't heard anything new on this since before the game released.

It’s weird that the Knights in the rulebook photos have Ironstorm Missile Pods when they can only have Stormspear Rocket Pods in the rules.