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 AegisGrimm wrote:
Here's a great image I found as food for thought- though it's obviously not an official miniature. Not a fan of bootleg minis, but I'm sure this is the same one-off as the Reavers I have seen, as not only are the marines non-official, there's an Angron at the bottom of the pic, too.

GW definitely has the ability to do this well:

That dude looks about 100mm tall ball park.

But yeah, I love the look of Epic scale titans, to me they look so much cooler than 40k scale titans. When I see a 40k scale titan I just think "that's neither something I want on my display shelf nor something I want to attempt to play a game with"

It'd be so awesome to see Epic completely redone, just a couple of sprues per army like we're getting with BB would be awesome, as much as I love Epic a lot of the old models look pretty wonky.

MLaw wrote:I get where you're going but gaming with the type of terrain you mention would be like playing on a steeple or the foot of a cliff.. The hive cities are so dense that it's all basically a superstructure.

Well, to be fair, you could have a game of 40K or even Epic on one of those platforms poking out of the side of the spire. And foot-of-a-cliff wouldn't be so bad either - a board based on the outskirts of a hive spire could look something like one of those LotR Pelennor boards with Minas Tirith's walls taking up one edge of the board. Except much more monolithic, greebly, and skully. Whack on interchangeable hive entrances, atmospheric processor/filter stations etc. etc. to take or defend. Yes... How much blue foam and model kit greebles can I get my hands on?

Though they are a defining feature of the absurdity of the setting and just the general tone of how cheap life is in the 41st millennium, they tend to almost never be the focal point of stories, video games, comics, etc set in the universe.

We need 10ccs of Kal Jerico, stat.

 Silent Puffin? wrote:

NetEpic is the most common, its a slightly cleaned up version of Epic:Armageddon

I thought NetEpic was a continuation of edition(s) before Epic 40K? With NetE:A coming after Specialist Games' canning?

Regardless of name, E:A is the one I'd recommend too.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

It'd be so awesome to see Epic completely redone

Well you could also take a look at Vanguard Miniatures in the meantime...

 Vermis wrote:

I thought NetEpic was a continuation of edition(s) before Epic 40K? With NetE:A coming after Specialist Games' canning?

I got the name wrong, the link is correct though. NetEpic is the fan version of Space Marine/Titan legions.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

That particular titan is resin and costs just over £90. The other minis from that manufacturer are all fairly expensive as well, a Leman Russ is £6.50 which is even worse than the ridiculous prices that GW were charging before the abandoned Epic.

Hopefully GW can do a lot better in terms of price this time.

I'd happily buy that for £90, same as I would for an official FW titan for the same sort of price.

 Silent Puffin? wrote:

 Vermis wrote:

I thought NetEpic was a continuation of edition(s) before Epic 40K? With NetE:A coming after Specialist Games' canning?

I got the name wrong, the link is correct though. NetEpic is the fan version of Space Marine/Titan legions.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

That particular titan is resin and costs just over £90. The other minis from that manufacturer are all fairly expensive as well, a Leman Russ is £6.50 which is even worse than the ridiculous prices that GW were charging before the abandoned Epic.

Hopefully GW can do a lot better in terms of price this time.

Where do you buy that stuff?

NivlacSupreme wrote:


Where do you buy that stuff?

I'm afraid its a case of knowing someone who knows someone. GW would shut these guys down in an instant so its all underground.

Black market toy soldiers....

Some of the infantry in that picture come from Vanguard though.

http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/product-category/defeat-in-detail/tusculum-nova/novan-elites/

Yeah, I didn't post it as much to endorse bootleg minis (as hilarious as that is- bootleg minis that never had 'official' versions, all for a dead system, so there's literally no sales possible to steal from GW) but that I want to see GW put out stuff like that picture, nice and easy to get access to (although as it's good ole' Geedub it'll probably be about twice as expensive as the 6mm stuff by Onslaught or Vanguard, even getting Vanguard's metal titans shipped to the US.

According to current conversion rates, the Vanguard Warhound/Reaver/Warlord would end up being 25/35/45 US dollars. They aren't nearly as awesome as the potential GW models, but they seem generally nicer than the old existing metal titans of the three types (bigger, too).

While I don't like how the legs were assembled with backwards knees, this makes for a pretty damn nice Reaver for 35 bucks.

NivlacSupreme wrote:Where do you buy that stuff?

You have to go down the correct back alley in the correct city on a rainy night and talk to the guy in the beige trench coat with a white handkerchief hanging out the right pocket and wearing a stetson hat with a red flower. Memorise the secret handshake otherwise you'll get taken out by the guy with a pistol hidden behind the stairs on the other side of the alleyway.

At least that's what I imagine getting black market Epic is like

Silent Puffin? wrote:Some of the infantry in that picture come from Vanguard though.

http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/product-category/defeat-in-detail/tusculum-nova/novan-elites/

It's really only the command models that look like Vanguard models, the rest looks black market or the old plastic Spehss Mareenz.

Vermis wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

It'd be so awesome to see Epic completely redone

Well you could also take a look at Vanguard Miniatures in the meantime...

Yeah I should probably try some. A couple of things puts me off, the Vanguard models are often pictured as CAD models which look awesome, but the painted ones look like a lot of the detail has been lost in the moulding process, but maybe it's just the paint is too thick on them. Also a lot of the "almost 40k" stuff doesn't really appeal to me.

I'm liking the look of Vanguard's 15mm range more than their 6mm range.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Yeah I should probably try some. A couple of things puts me off, the Vanguard models are often pictured as CAD models which look awesome, but the painted ones look like a lot of the detail has been lost in the moulding process, but maybe it's just the paint is too thick on them. Also a lot of the "almost 40k" stuff doesn't really appeal to me.

I'm liking the look of Vanguard's 15mm range more than their 6mm range.

The paint jobs really do them no favours. Colour schemes and paint thickness are not conduisive to the detail. You will nsee some minor signs of 3d printing the masters, but it's really not noticeable once it's cleaned, and the detail is pretty good, especially on the Skinnerz.

-Jock

The 'Skinner's are really detailed, too detailed to be honest for 6mm models as they are a little fragile and you have to be very careful removing flash.

I really like mine though and I will be putting in a largeish order in the next week or so (40 warbike stands, 12 Flakwagons and some fightbombas).

I was clearing out the garage today and I found what can only be described as a heap of plastic Epic terrain, unassembled but enough for about half a tables worth of ruins, I think it came from the Epic:40k box but there seems to be much more than I would have expected. I also came across the sad remnants of a Mega gargant which will also be turned into terrain.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
It's really only the command models that look like Vanguard models, the rest looks black market or the old plastic Spehss Mareenz.

They still count

The Defeat in Detail range has really increased in quality, you can really tell the difference by comparing the basic Tactical Marine ('Affray company') to the newer stuff like the Specialists or the Skinners Commandos

Damn these last posts. I'm seriously thinking of throwing a few hundred I don't have at Onslaught/Vanguard and getting the wife and I some Epic armies.

I would totally drop 100-150 to get a titan group from Vanguard, if I had anyone to pull their own weight as an opponent. But around here I have to play with close friends and buy/paint both sides to get a game in. Which unfortunately is going to keep the new Titan Legion ga e out of my grasp.

Apparently you can get a discount from Vanguard if you order over £100 and ask

NivlacSupreme wrote:
I hate GW sometimes. They bring back an amazing game but make the models huge so that nobody under 20 can afford to play.

On a different note, if Warlords are knight sized are Emperors Warlord sized?

I was excited to read about an Epic style game coming back out until I read about the scale. Not only is it expensive, but storage would be a bitch.

Only for titans. If they make the move to infantry and vehicles, those won't be any worse than a game like Dropzone Commander.

Hi guys been reading the lastest posts and thought you find this useful cheers.

How about this Warlord?

What a sad day where you have to buy black market 10mm models for a game that GW refuses to support. It's as if they don't realize a market exists!

Black market 10mm models?

As long as no one tips them off, i'll be happy. I need another month to collect funds if I hope to get any of these. :-p

 Kirasu wrote:
What a sad day where you have to buy black market 10mm models for a game that GW refuses to support. It's as if they don't realize a market exists!

We're in a thread discussing how they are supporting Titans? :/

Exactly, GW has realized it and is going to be supporting it, which will make it even more popular - better for everybody, I think!

Vorian wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
What a sad day where you have to buy black market 10mm models for a game that GW refuses to support. It's as if they don't realize a market exists!

We're in a thread discussing how they are supporting Titans? :/

Are they? I don't see any model releases yet.

But it's not like there's any doubt on whether FW will release 8mm scaled Titans...

 RiTides wrote:
Exactly, GW has realized it and is going to be supporting it, which will make it even more popular - better for everybody, I think!

Depends on what you mean by support. It appears it's going to a re-imagining of Adeptus Titanicus in the Horus Heresy era. That's not really supporting Epic40k, or Epic Armageddon as it developed to include other 40k races. In addition if we can take anything from Blood Bowl they will try to change the scale to invalidate (partially) the older lines to get people to rebuy new models (understandable to an extent) but it's forced and they should try and sell it on it's own merits (which for the Blood Bowl releases there is lots).

 Kirasu wrote:
What a sad day where you have to buy black market 10mm models for a game that GW refuses to support. It's as if they don't realize a market exists!

I think this is a bit melodramatic.. It's no more "black market" than Kromlech's orcs, Victoria Lamb's IG, or Scibor's Space Marines.. However, I do really look forward to official models being back in new circulation again. The original Epic kits have been spiking in price over the last year or two and it's been a bit annoying to track down affordable models from the original run.

My GW manager/friend is still sticking with what he said would be in the boxed release when I asked again. He said FW will of course be making models for the game, but the starter needs to be a quick and broad appeal. Hope he is right!

Malika2 wrote:How about this Warlord?

Yum yum.

Kirasu wrote:What a sad day where you have to buy black market 10mm models for a game that GW refuses to support. It's as if they don't realize a market exists!

Vanguard's (et al) models aren't black market. There they are, waiting for you to buy 'em, all shiny and legitimate like.

 krazynadechukr wrote:
My GW manager/friend is still sticking with what he said would be in the boxed release when I asked again. He said FW will of course be making models for the game, but the starter needs to be a quick and broad appeal. Hope he is right!

I hope so, too as your earlier rumor from him sounded like exactly what I'd like to see. That makes sense as a GW manager but GW got it mostly right with the Blood Bowl release, so I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt here!

Wow. Those Epic Boards are amazing.

For those with experience, how would the old Forge World Warmaster Terrain compare in size?