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Yeah, the only "black market" minis are the ones absolutely replicating Forgeworld Heresy designs. All others are official, and awesome.

The long legged Titans from Vanguard don't appeal to me quite as much, they lack that brutish element that the GW Mars and Lucius patter titans have.

Reese wrote:
Wow. Those Epic Boards are amazing.

For those with experience, how would the old Forge World Warmaster Terrain compare in size?

Epic was 6mm, new AdTit is appearantly going to be 8mm. Warmaster was/is 10mm and fantasy so it may or may not work, chances are it will look big though, certainly against the old Epic ranges.

PM me if you have spare warmaster stuff, it's still going strong here!

Considering that DZC is 10mm (right? or am I having a senior moment?) and we see tons of that on 6mm epic game tables I don't foresee that being a huge issue.

 Jimmy Zimms wrote:
Considering that DZC is 10mm (right? or am I having a senior moment?) and we see tons of that on 6mm epic game tables I don't foresee that being a huge issue.

Yup DZC is 10mm

It would be nice if they rereleased the ruins they had for epic, and they look awesome and are modular. Scifi 6mm and 10 mm buildings though are in no short supply

 Malika2 wrote:
Black market 10mm models?

 Kirasu wrote:
What a sad day where you have to buy black market 10mm models for a game that GW refuses to support. It's as if they don't realize a market exists!

This is a huge market. Lurking Net Epic / tactics command / multiple Epic or 2/6/10mm forums you'll find its a huge underground community.

 Jimmy Zimms wrote:
Considering that DZC is 10mm (right? or am I having a senior moment?) and we see tons of that on 6mm epic game tables I don't foresee that being a huge issue.

DZC is a weird 9-10mm scale. I'd say Mech Warrior Dark Age was more of a 10mm when you compare the infantry. DZC sits around 9mm. The structures are all great for 8-10mm. I can see a ton of players buying the DZC cardstock or resin buildings for this game if FW only makes the terrain

Do you have any links for these forums?

I'd love to get back into Epic, and I'd love to find active communities/forums for it - thanks!

 Alpharius wrote:
Do you have any links for these forums?

I'd love to get back into Epic, and I'd love to find active communities/forums for it - thanks!

http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/index.php

There are a few Facebook groups as well.

If you can speak French or can handle using Google Translate, check the French Epic forum: http://epic-fr.niceboard.com/

Then there's the Specialist Games forum: http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/

 Alpharius wrote:
I'd love to find active communities/forums for it

http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=1g04ue4pt9sjpt1i1d8g948vu2&board=13.0

EDIT: ah I see Malika2 got there first

Just saw these on one of the linked forums

From Epic-FR - Warhammer Fest 2016 - historical photos and design documents of AT and 1st Edition SM

Pics like that give me the warm fuzzies. I design games as a hobby and I have a big stack of 10-15 year old notes etc. It's fun to pour through them and see what/where I was headed back in the day (and you'll be surprised how many of your old good ideas you've since forgotten!). I'd love to pour through some of those boxes...damn.

So it looks like Warlord Titans can only have paired carapace weapons?

Elbows, me too, for hours

Someone reported a while ago that FW was going to introduce some intermediate sized Titans... I hope they base it on the right one. I've always wanted a model of it.

 Elbows wrote:
Pics like that give me the warm fuzzies.

Having to quote the message and stick 'S's on all the http's, and hit 'preview', to see anything, and then only seeing broken links anyway, makes me warm... under the collar.

Only on Dakka does this happen.

Vermis, can you see the pics in the original thread?

http://epic-fr.niceboard.com/t6863p25-premiere-photo-du-renouveau-horus-heresy-adeptus-titanicu

Could your problem be provider-based? Work-blocked?

 judgedoug wrote:
So it looks like Warlord Titans can only have paired carapace weapons?

You could have different weapons on each of the carapace hardpoints in the original AdTit, you could even mix weapons on the same hardpoint. So a Defence laser with a Lascannon on each if you so chose.

 aka_mythos wrote:
Someone reported a while ago that FW was going to introduce some intermediate sized Titans... I hope they base it on the right one. I've always wanted a model of it.

Is that not essentially an old and stylized warlord titan?

Probably yes. There were some WD articles back when AT was released and maybe there is a comment by Jes Goodwin what these were meant to be used for. I dont have these mags so I cant check.

FW could expand the current titan range both in 28 and 8 mm and use some of these designs for new classes.

There was a prototype Titan miniature in metal which wasn't released but used this early foot design. Steve Casey wrote a post about an unknown RT robot model found in Bryan Ansell's collection and Bob Naysmith chimed in that it was one of his prototypes for AT



http://eldritchepistles.blogspot.de/2014/05/unreleased-rogue-trader-era-titan.html


Here is such a model shown in a recent exhibition at GW




Again from Bryan Ansell's collection is this 28mm scratchbuilt Titan foot used for a late 80s WD diorama with the foot design of the plastic kit




So FW used a mix of these designs (earlier feet but carapace and heads similiar to the beatleback?) for their titans.

 notprop wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
So it looks like Warlord Titans can only have paired carapace weapons?

You could have different weapons on each of the carapace hardpoints in the original AdTit, you could even mix weapons on the same hardpoint. So a Defence laser with a Lascannon on each if you so chose.

Yeah, most of my Warlords have different weapon configurations on the carapace. What i'm seeing in the new Adeptus Titanicus is that ALL Warlords MUST have paired weapons on the carapace, which would suck, as it invalidates like 40 of my 50 Warlords immediately.

If they are trying to bring it in step with the full scale versions, that would make sense.

Yeah, I'd bet the weapon options are quite limited - at least originally. They now have to be prepared for an outcry of "we want X for 40K!" for anything they put into the new AT project.

That being said...if you're not attending a tournament I'm sure you can bash up the rules to work for your titans. It is a shame though.

We don't know how it'll work though, they may allow individual fits on the Carapace. I can't seem them forcing pairs of Landing Pads and Fire Control Towers (if they decide to re-do them) on the carapace. Also, the Warlord may be restricted to how their hardpoints work, but the different potential Titan classes (such as Nemesis, Night Gaunt, Atlas, Legatus, etc. etc) may...

The 40k variants of the titans do seem a little limited compared to the original epic versions. The heavier weapons can't be carapace mounted (no 4x Volcano Cannons), Multiple rocket Launchers have to go on the carapace.

My Armorcast Reaver is not strictly legal either when I decide to swap out the MRL....

I'm sure we can sort it by sticking 'arm' weapons on the carapace, but the Warlord control sheet did only have three weapon slots....

Cheers
Mark

 ph34r wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

Spoiler:

Someone reported a while ago that FW was going to introduce some intermediate sized Titans... I hope they base it on the right one. I've always wanted a model of it.

Is that not essentially an old and stylized warlord titan?

Priobably... but the Warlord has largely departed the concept and has become something bigger. It is too the point that this concept could be reused.

A Warlord is 100ft, a Reaver is 85ft, and a Warhound is 45ft... The concept shows a 60ft Titan with 2 arm weapons, each the size and type as a Reaver's arm weapons, and a knee mounted defensive weapon. The concept is halfway in size to being a Reaver, and is armed like a Reaver just without the opportunity for carapace mounted weapon. It sure sounds like the logic sweet spot for an intermediate Titan class.


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 zedmeister wrote:
We don't know how it'll work though, they may allow individual fits on the Carapace. I can't seem them forcing pairs of Landing Pads and Fire Control Towers (if they decide to re-do them) on the carapace. Also, the Warlord may be restricted to how their hardpoints work, but the different potential Titan classes (such as Nemesis, Night Gaunt, Atlas, Legatus, etc. etc) may...

My guess is that there will be a weapon profile for the pair of shoulder weapons, and then a seperate profile for an individual weapon should a person mount one of these non-weapon upgrades and that these upgrades just don't get noted with the weapons... but where you otherwise can't take 2 seperate and individual shoulder weapons.

Look at the pics of the Warlord Titan data cards. There's one weapon slot for each arm, and one weapon slot for the carapace. The carapace weapons show "Paired".

 aka_mythos wrote:
Someone reported a while ago that FW was going to introduce some intermediate sized Titans... I hope they base it on the right one. I've always wanted a model of it.

Spoiler:

Is that not essentially an old and stylized warlord titan?

Priobably... but the Warlord has largely departed the concept and has become something bigger. It is too the point that this concept could be reused.

A Warlord is 100ft, a Reaver is 85ft, and a Warhound is 45ft... The concept shows a 60ft Titan with 2 arm weapons, each the size and type as a Reaver's arm weapons, and a knee mounted defensive weapon. The concept is halfway in size to being a Reaver, and is armed like a Reaver just without the opportunity for carapace mounted weapon. It sure sounds like the logic sweet spot for an intermediate Titan class.

Love that design, although rather than an intermediate Titan, I'd like to see it come back as a very heavily armored Warlord that gives up its carapace weapons for heavier armor.

T

Apologies if I messed up the quotes...

 notprop wrote:
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PM me if you have spare warmaster stuff, it's still going strong here!

One of my LGS still has a bunch of blisters of Warmaster stuff, place is a goldmine for old metal.

Looking forward to this release, loved the original. Shame about the initial lack of tanks, but hopefully it'll be successful enough to be expanded.

 judgedoug wrote:
Look at the pics of the Warlord Titan data cards. There's one weapon slot for each arm, and one weapon slot for the carapace. The carapace weapons show "Paired".

Spoiler:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/AdeptusMech-3.jpg

Maybe it's that specific configuration? Also, keep in mind that there used to be various sub-classes of the Warlord (like the Eclipse, Death Bringer, Nemesis, and Nightgaunt), which all kinda worked differently. Maybe there will also be one which allows you to mount two different carapace weapons?