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I'm glad you all like how it turned out
I've bought myself a turn table so i might be able to make a GIF of it spinning so you can see it in 360'

Small Update.
I have the marine for jhe90 built and primed.
It shouldnt take as long as the last one and there is not really as much detailed work to do.
Only thing i need to do to the model before i start painting is drill out the gun hole

Nice.

We honestly don't appreciate the awesomeness of normal Marines enough.

So that Combi Weapon is off the table for my mentors marine then?

So todays lesson kids is to How and to How not Undercoat your models...



Ran into a small problem last night when undercoating a marine. Gonna have to strip him back and start again.

Thinking back the problem was due to the Temperature of both my Garage and Can of spray.
Probably the humidity as well as it was raining outside.

Anyways into a Detol bath with him.

On the flip side the marine of the right was done with a bit more care now that i know the beast i have to deal with.
I warmed the can up in a sink of luke warm water (warm to touch but not hot) and gave it a good shake.
One light coat i've found it more than enough to give paint something to stick to so going mad with the undercoat isnt needed as if you're painting it properly then all the undercoat should be gone by the time you're finished

Off to bath marine!

Now I somehow you have discovered a good way to make rough stone textures it seems though lol
Gotta get some posetives.

Well hes spent a few days in a Detol bath and i've gotten him ready for a new undercoat

dettol? nah mate Isopropyl alcohol is your freind. pick some up off ebay, pop your dude in 10 mins, give him a scrub, back in for 10 mins scrub, and he's clean as hell.

And the biggest bonus by far is that its water soluble so you dont get that gungy gak that seems to appear when you rinse a dettol soaked mini in water.

Fun fact, dettol strips paint because it contains isopropyl alcohol.
no, no it doesnt melt the plastic.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haz-Isopropyl-Rubbing-Alcohol-70-500ml-/111839648184?hash=item1a0a2999b8:g:ee8AAOSwAYtWPm3F
a link for future reference

I kind of like the colour of that dettol model as is. Kind of a stone tinted minotaur.

 STG wrote:
dettol? nah mate Isopropyl alcohol is your freind. pick some up off ebay, pop your dude in 10 mins, give him a scrub, back in for 10 mins scrub, and he's clean as hell.

And the biggest bonus by far is that its water soluble so you dont get that gungy gak that seems to appear when you rinse a dettol soaked mini in water.

Fun fact, dettol strips paint because it contains isopropyl alcohol.
no, no it doesnt melt the plastic.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haz-Isopropyl-Rubbing-Alcohol-70-500ml-/111839648184?hash=item1a0a2999b8:g:ee8AAOSwAYtWPm3F
a link for future reference

I will Deffo look into this thank you

This looks like a great project, are you going to do the 'standard' painscheme for each chapter or try some more exotic methods?

Regarding Isopropyl alcohol, what concentration do you recommend @STG ?

DaemonJellybaby wrote:
This looks like a great project, are you going to do the 'standard' painscheme for each chapter or try some more exotic methods?

Regarding Isopropyl alcohol, what concentration do you recommend @STG ?

Well i've just bought some 70% so i will update on how well that works

Hey daemon jelly baby, i use 100 percent, but any percentage will do, its just it will take longer for it to have an effect.

the link to the definitive guide below

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/697164.page

What i've found with the Isopropyl is that it doesnt really do much to the primer.
Takes of the paints fine though.

Anyways here is a how the latest marine ended up turning out after i got him primed in white



Beyond starting with a fresh model i dont know how to fix this issue :(
But its a hell of a lot better than it was thats for sure

It's not great, but I think you'll be able to get away with this. What chapter is this guy by the way?

 WarbossDakka wrote:
It's not great, but I think you'll be able to get away with this. What chapter is this guy by the way?

This particular one is going to be a Mentor

Small update.
Working on JamesY's Crimson Fist.



As you can see I think i've pretty much nailed how to properly Prime a Model now

Were the issues you were having with priming to do with the weather? It's amazing to what degree the weather can affect it.

EDC

Loving the banner top on my mentor's backpack! Just spotted it, looks great!

The weather affects spray can priming BIG TIME. I once sprayed something when it was like +27 outside. The paint ended up drying before it hit the model. And when it hit, it produced somewhat grainy/sandy texture.

Is that Vallejo primer?

Looks good so far. I look forward to seeing how you get on with him

Look good.

Hopefully the rest prime right like that properly

 evildrcheese wrote:
Were the issues you were having with priming to do with the weather? It's amazing to what degree the weather can affect it.

EDC

Thats exactly what was the problem.


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 theCrowe wrote:
Loving the banner top on my mentor's backpack! Just spotted it, looks great!

You're welcome dude


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 CragHack wrote:
The weather affects spray can priming BIG TIME. I once sprayed something when it was like +27 outside. The paint ended up drying before it hit the model. And when it hit, it produced somewhat grainy/sandy texture.

Is that Vallejo primer?

When i lived in Malta i had the exact same problem.
I had to resort to spray in the bathroom in the shower stall

and no its GWS.
I've tried Vallejo and i dont like it


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 jhe90 wrote:
Look good.

Hopefully the rest prime right like that properly

Now that i know what the problem is i can avoid it

Third time's the charm!

Well from what i've read you dont need a perfect cover. the primer is there to give the actual paint something to grab onto.
So a light covering like what i have above is all that is needed to keep details intact.

My only other alternative is to use an airbrush and a primer that way. but thats quite an expense just for priming models.

Yep, you're completely right. I mean all you'll be doing is painting over it, so the primer isn't too important as long as it's there.

Just be glad you didn't get dud primer. As in when I cracks and doesn't dry properly. I had a can of that, and even after stripping them in alcohol they were still covered in pigment (that I had to carfully brush off).


I can't wait to see all of these guys together, after you finish them all.

Ember

 WarbossDakka wrote:
Yep, you're completely right. I mean all you'll be doing is painting over it, so the primer isn't too important as long as it's there.

Agreed


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 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Just be glad you didn't get dud primer. As in when I cracks and doesn't dry properly. I had a can of that, and even after stripping them in alcohol they were still covered in pigment (that I had to carfully brush off).


I can't wait to see all of these guys together, after you finish them all.

Ember

Oh i cant wait to see them all together either

Pm sent for the Sons of Guilliman and subscribed so my son and I can follow.

Great thanks