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Not my pic and no idea where it is from. Popped up on a private forum I am on. Bit blurry. This may prompt Warhammer Community to release better pictures to get ahead of the leaks.



Looks like the snap fit from the new 40k starter.

Very truescale, which will please some people. I like the design and sculpting of it, though I'll probably remove the chest eagle from mine as I play Carcharadons. Mixing the new special forces marines in will fit with the boarding/zone mortalis theme of my army. Looks like it will paint up nice. Very pleased with it compared to the sigmarines. I'm liking where this is going.

I like it - but I'm not convinced it's legit.

I mean if it is real, fair enough - but it still looks like a conversion - and the other models around it look part of a random spod's collection.

yeah calling conversion

GodDamUser wrote:
yeah calling conversion

Especially as you can see Green Stuff on the boltgun...

I already said this on another thread, but I'll repost here:

I doubt it is a conversion. Looks pretty legit to me.

It is exactly as described in that previous (4chan?) rumour. That person said that they had picture taken in private event, so probably this is the picture.
That same rumour mentioned the Guilliman's blood theory, I hope that part was not true. This model doesn't seem significantly larger (if any) than the new DW and TS marines. The look itself could easily be explained by new gear so I hope that's all there's to it. A new mark or PA and bolter, available to all chapters.

Based on Hastings' description "the new marines are to old marines like the Stormcast are to Empire soldiers" I certainly expected something more extreme looking.I really hope that Hastings exaggerated a bit (or misinterpreted the vague info he had) and these are just normal marines with new gear.



In any case, the model looks cool, and if we are spared from the stupid guillimarine fluff, I'm looking forward including these in my chapter.

If it is a hoax, it's a very good one. We will see. We are two months out from the next edition. We'll see more leaks coming fairly soon.

That guy meets the descriptions we've seen, down to the Pip-boy on the wrist, the Stormcast-thingy on the knee, and the long bolter. I'm thinking it's real.

Why is the banner blacked out like that?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I like it - but I'm not convinced it's legit.

I mean if it is real, fair enough - but it still looks like a conversion - and the other models around it look part of a random spod's collection.

This.

We're seeing a blurry photo of something on a beat up wooden desk with other random minis next to it that literally look like some random person's collection.

There's visible GS and the components look familiar - pipboy on the arm? I'm sure I've seen that on Deathwing Terminator apothecaries.

I see no greenstuff. The greenish blotches are obviously JPG compression artefacts.

Well if you want to wish hard enough, any excuse sounds reasonable.

The boltgun has a hole in the side of the drum magazine. That probably isn't supposed to be there. The lower legs do look like they were molded that way, not converted. The greaves aren't concave like the DW Mk VIII, so it does look like a legit new armor mk.

Stickler for me....

The right arm doesn't seem quite in scale with the legs.

Could of course be the angle of the photo, but still make me think very good conversion.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

There's visible GS and the components look familiar - pipboy on the arm? I'm sure I've seen that on Deathwing Terminator apothecaries.

It's not even remotely similar. I have converted a lot of marines and I cannot recognise a single bit. I would be amazed were this a conversion. It would require large areas perfectly sculpted in GS and the painted grey imply it is plastic.

I'm not sure about the breastplate but the left arm looks a lot like it came out of the Deathwatch kit. And the shoulder pad could have come from a 4e-vintage Marine kit it's so standard/generic, and the top of the backpack looks like the current Devastator kit to me. I'd have expected more if they were actually going to make new Marines.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Stickler for me....

The right arm doesn't seem quite in scale with the legs.

Could of course be the angle of the photo, but still make me think very good conversion.

More to the point the right arm isn't quite in scale with the left arm. Deathwatch arm and older-kit arm, I'm thinking.

That looks legit to me.

Why?

The legs. They are clearly molded like that, no separate parts.

And the head, no green stuff, but is significantly bigger than any other head available from gw.

If it weren't a conversion then why would they intentionally blur the picture the way they have to make it less clear? It looks as if it were converted to a much much smaller resolution then enlarged again using something as basic as paint. Even the lines crossing out the banner are blurred in parts.

NoggintheNog wrote:
And the head, no green stuff, but is significantly bigger than any other head available from gw.

The Centurian heads are slightly bigger than normal heads and it definitely looks like one of the Centurian heads.

Well, that's assuming they're an otherwise competent photographer?

 AnomanderRake wrote:
I'm not sure about the breastplate but the left arm looks a lot like it came out of the Deathwatch kit. And the shoulder pad could have come from a 4e-vintage Marine kit it's so standard/generic, and the top of the backpack looks like the current Devastator kit to me.

Do you people actually do any comparisons before you make these claims? No, it is not DW arm, no it is not a Devastator backpack. Only recognisable part is the shoulder pad, but it makes sense they'd keep that similar, so that all the FW's shoulderpad conversion bits would remain compatible.

The centurion head has large round earpieces and lacks the little bobbles this one has on it.

I think this is legit personally. There are a lot of little details that distinguish it like the cowling on the back pack exhausts, the Guilleman style arm plate on the left arm, Custodes style chest plate but extended lower with vents on the underside.

I could be wrong and this is in fact an excellent conversion but speaking as the guy that created truescale terminator conversions the gait and proportions are different to terminator truescaling for one,

I don't know where people are getting these 'Oh it looks like X' from. I've been looking at the pictures side by side and it's not even closely resembled.

That head is nothing like a Centurion head.
The arm computer is nothing like a Deathwing Apothecary.
The backpack is nothing like a Devastator pack.
The arm is nothing like a Deathwatch arm. Key thing here is that the Deathwatch left arm actually has extra armor plating on the side of the elbow joint that's missing there.

C'mon people. At least research it before you make claims.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Well, that's assuming they're an otherwise competent photographer?

If you look closely you can see the picture is degraded into "squares", not pixelated but grouping. I don't think you could get that without it being intentional.

 Crimson wrote:
I see no greenstuff. The greenish blotches are obviously JPG compression artefacts.

Fine. Let's say that the green stuff(just happening to be visible in multiple different spots where it's obvious something has been smoothed out with green stuff...something GW doesn't do anymore, since they do CAD sculpts rather than hand sculpts) is really just compression artefacts.

Explain the two different colored bits of plastic? The legs themselves are one color, the feet are another. And if you look close, you can actually see the sheen from a glue join on the knee with the "stormcast greave" bit where it looks like someone shaved the 'arch' from another kit and attached it to this model.
Explain the fact that the boltgun is the one from the Devastator Sergeant, attached to the back of a bolt pistol with the revolver magazine from the Techpriest Dominus' Luminagen Pistol mashed on top of it?
The forearm holding the Bolt Pistol is the Clavis from a Deathwatch Watch Master. I built several of them and know that bit well. They removed the dataspike bit and added a pistol hand in lieu of the standard arm.
Also, look at the torso. It appears to be part of a Centurion model(specifically torso part #6), cut down and mated to something else for the gorget. You can also again see what appears to be green stuff cabling underneath of it.
The pack looks to be from a Mark IV plastic.

And really, the only thing he blacks out is whatever's mounted on the backpack?

Call it whatever you want, I'm calling bull.

I'm not seeing anything to indicate this is a conversion. Unless parts of this are sculpted with grey stuff to perfectly match the color of the plastic. There is no SM backpack like that currently in the range, and it does not at all look converted. Same with the feet on the marine. Nothing currently in the range looks anything like that. You would have to sculpt that if it was "fake". Just seems like a whole lot of effort for a hoax.

Surprisingly, this is far more restrained of a look than I was thinking it could be after Guilliman. This actually makes me look forward to these. Despite the fluff shakeup, these are great looking models, and I'll be getting some. If nothing else it takes the effort out of truescale converting for Inq28.

I could easily see these being a new subfaction like Deathwatch, and the scale is not so far off you could use existing weapons from the SM range to go full truescale for a normal SM army. I have to imagine this is GW'S way of increasing scale without invalidating anything. Also allows them to sell these to any SM player that wants bigger marines for their existing chapter.

I'm actually getting excited for this now.

RyanAvx wrote:
That head is nothing like a Centurion head.

It's identical to this one.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120101106_CenturionAssaultSquadNEW03.jpg

 n0t_u wrote:

If you look closely you can see the picture is degraded into "squares", not pixelated but grouping. I don't think you could get that without it being intentional.

That's perfectly normal JPG compression artefact. It is a low quality JPG picture.


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 Arbitrator wrote:

It's identical to this one.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120101106_CenturionAssaultSquadNEW03.jpg

It's not. The 'mohawk and the ear piece are different.

Has no-one else noticed the resemblance between this new dude's breastplate and Robot Guilleman's?
Sort of a neat cue if they're supposed to be enhanced by access to a Primarch and whatever Cawl was hiding in the Mystery Box…

Also, conversions using parts that don't exist are hard to do, so this really can't be a conversion; neither the legs, right arm, either gun, backpack, nor torso are from published GW kits.
They have strong resemblances to other kits, mostly Deathwatch, but no exact matches.
For example, the wrist-computer; similar to the Deathwatch one but on the wrong arm.

Is it? I don't see the stud above the left eye on the Nu-marine that's present on the Centurion.

Edit: Crimson beat me to it

 Arbitrator wrote:

RyanAvx wrote:
That head is nothing like a Centurion head.

It's identical to this one.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120101106_CenturionAssaultSquadNEW03.jpg

No, it isn't. The nu-marine doesn't have the stud on the forehead. His looks more like hair than an armor plate on top, and the earpieces are completely different. Faces are slightly different too.