Games Workshop - Shadow War Armageddon-cranes and new terrain pg 135

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**Thebiggesthat**

zerosignal wrote:
Yay, something invalidating Kill Team.

Sigh.

Oh ace, you have the rules? Post them up!

**NivlacSupreme**

I've been thinking about that artwork.

There is not a single sergeant in that picture (that I can see).

**jmurph**

Hmmm, hoping the terrain is good. The old Necromunda bulkheads were so versatile....

**mjl7atlas**

So what is a venerable landraider and a null maiden rhino?

**Mr Morden**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Box art image for y'all

Love the scout at the front that's just smashed the ork in the face lol.

Good pic - this "could" be great given that pretty the variety of forces engaged on Armageddon

including Sisters !

**NivlacSupreme**

Mr Morden wrote:
angelofvengeance wrote:
Box art image for y'all

Love the scout at the front that's just smashed the ork in the face lol.

Good pic - this "could" be great given that pretty the variety of forces engaged on Armageddon including Sisters !

A: This is the kind of art that got me into 40k

B: I too want sisters. And praetorians.

I think i'll start saving for half of this.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

eekamouse wrote:
VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
zerosignal wrote:
Yay, something invalidating Kill Team.

Sigh.

Not really an invalidation, just another type of game.

Ya... I feel like this is "another way to use the models you use for Kill Team".... or also... "Here's some terrain for Kill Team... and some bonus rules"... /shrug

Watch the video. Andy Smillie says it Necromunda rules. So nothing like Kill Team

And f anyone objects to that, they're weird

**CragHack**

Af first I thought it was a genestealer hybdrids due to googles

**theocracity**

Oh man! I know I should keep my expectations low, but this would be a great opportunity for a redone Scout kit and redone Boyz (particularly interested in the latter).

Never played Necromunda, but it sounds really appealing. The small scale RPG elements of Blood Bowl have really gotten me back into the hobby, and being able to use my boyz in a less bloated game would be fantastic.

**judgedoug**

Praying for it to be Age of Sigmar in spaaaaace.
edit: well not quite praying. That would mean that I would be buying 40k models.

**Lord Kragan**

I'm disappointed with Blood and Thunder. It's still a potentially good value box but... meh. Of course, new players and young'uns will enjoy it.

**Mymearan**

judgedoug wrote:
Praying for it to be Age of Sigmar in spaaaaace.
edit: well not quite praying. That would mean that I would be buying 40k models.

It's Necromunda 2.0.

**Elbows**

I have my doubts it'll be proper Necromunda heavy - I'd expect a much more watered down version of the "feel" of Necromunda. I'd expect a $60-80 price with Warhammer Quest Silver Tower level detail...

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I doubt it. No interest for me unless the terrain is incredible (scouts and orks are both supremely mediocre kits and I have no interest in them).

**judgedoug**

Mymearan wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Praying for it to be Age of Sigmar in spaaaaace.
edit: well not quite praying. That would mean that I would be buying 40k models.

It's Necromunda 2.0.

That could mean anything. Adeptus Titanicus (new) is nothing like the original Adeptus Titanicus rules.
So, praying that this is based on Age of Sigmar.

**Fayric**

So GW didnt manage to clear their stock of Scouts with that lost patrol game.
Lets just hope the scenery dont come in the same quality as in the dark eldar game.

**Mymearan**

judgedoug wrote:
Mymearan wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Praying for it to be Age of Sigmar in spaaaaace.
edit: well not quite praying. That would mean that I would be buying 40k models.

It's Necromunda 2.0.

That could mean anything. Adeptus Titanicus (new) is nothing like the original Adeptus Titanicus rules.
So, praying that this is based on Age of Sigmar.

The GW guy says (verbatim) "it's the old Necromunda ruleset to play with" so that's unlikely.

**Lord Kragan**

Not entirely related with the announcements but I found this comparison:

Maybe slaangors/pestigors/khorngors are on the way?

**Mr Morden**

NivlacSupreme wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
angelofvengeance wrote:
Box art image for y'all

Love the scout at the front that's just smashed the ork in the face lol.

Good pic - this "could" be great given that pretty the variety of forces engaged on Armageddon including Sisters !

A: This is the kind of art that got me into 40k

B: I too want sisters. And praetorians.

I think i'll start saving for half of this.

There are many cool imperial Guard regiments that would be great in plastic - but I guess it will just be more marines.

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

I can't believe more people aren't flipping their crap over what even at its surface is being called Necromunda expanded to existing 40k armies???

My group is instantly discussing running campaigns of this game. Very, very excited here.

**Kijamon**

Contents floating about for the Necromunda game, terrain looks amazing

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Come on guys. Watch the video.

Box is deep, and packed with multi level plastic scenery. And it uses the Necromunda rules.

Seemingly no gangs (may have misconstrued), but comes with all the rules you'll need, barring some downloads.

**judgedoug**

Mymearan wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Mymearan wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Praying for it to be Age of Sigmar in spaaaaace.
edit: well not quite praying. That would mean that I would be buying 40k models.

It's Necromunda 2.0.

That could mean anything. Adeptus Titanicus (new) is nothing like the original Adeptus Titanicus rules.
So, praying that this is based on Age of Sigmar.

The GW guy says (verbatim) "it's the old Necromunda ruleset to play with"

That's tremendously unfortunate. I loved Necromunda when it first came out, but since then much, much better rulesets have been released, not only by the former designers but by the current GW Design team. "Necromunda 2.0" implies it uses current 40k rules as a basis, just as Necromunda used 40k 2nd as a basis, which is a huge turnoff.

**Ghaz**

Lord Kragan wrote:
Not entirely related with the announcements but I found this comparison:

Spoiler:

Maybe slaangors/pestigors/khorngors are on the way?

Already mentioned in the appropriate thread.

**Elbows**

It won't be the same rule-set, simply because it will be tied to current 40K which has changed substantially (remember Necromunda was released during the late 90's with 2nd edition Warhammer 40K). I doubt they'll revert to an old game system they abandoned.

Re-written for the 3rd-7th generation (which have all been the same rules, just tossed in a spin cycle every couple of years), very possible.

I highly doubt you'll find a lot of the Necromunda content in this game. I'd like to be wrong, but I doubt they will include much of the post-game stuff which made Necromunda (and Mordheim) the beloved games they are.

**RiTides**

Updated the OP! Poke me about their further reveals - it might be that we need multiple threads for other items (like AoS stuff) if this one gets too unwieldy.

Great to see GW so chatty

. Now tell us more about Shadow War: Armageddon!

**tneva82**

judgedoug wrote:
That's tremendously unfortunate. I loved Necromunda when it first came out, but since then much, much better rulesets have been released, not only by the former designers but by the current GW Design team. "Necromunda 2.0" implies it uses current 40k rules as a basis, just as Necromunda used 40k 2nd as a basis, which is a huge turnoff.

Oh yeah. Necromunda based on horus heresy rules could be fun. HH being current best rules GW having.

Though still 2nd ed is still better core so hopefully they haven\t messed with rules.

**judgedoug**

"Thunder and Blood" looks awesome as hell. What a perfect little starter set.

**RiTides**

Here's a copy of the new OP with a link to the warhammer community page:

VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/14/new-game-announced-at-gama-trade-show/

Breaking news from the Gama Trade Show, a brand new boxed game has just been announced – Shadow War: Armageddon.

Some of the Warhammer Community team are currently at the huge trade show in Las Vegas, and are showcasing some of the exciting new releases on the way over the next few months. The first of these is Shadow War: Armageddon.

Right now we don’t have a huge amount of detail on this set (though we will, very soon), but what we do know is that it is a squad-level game set in the Warhammer 40,000 universe. The specific setting is the hive cities of War Zone: Armageddon, and the two forces pitted against each other are Space Marines Scouts from the Blood Angels Chapter and ferocious Ork Boyz.

We think the idea of close-range combat amongst the sprawling ruins of Imperial industry sounds pretty ace.

We’ll have more news for you on this game, as well as other new releases, over the next several hours, so stay posted!

Dez wrote:
Via GAMA:

Shadow War: Armageddon is the spiritual successor to Necromunda and due out VERY SOON. Comes in a MASSIVE (stressed a lot) box full of multilevel terrain, Space Marines, Orks and of course rules. The rules cover 16-17 different factions, so most/all 40k armies are covered.

Any other info post it up!!

**judgedoug**

tneva82 wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
That's tremendously unfortunate. I loved Necromunda when it first came out, but since then much, much better rulesets have been released, not only by the former designers but by the current GW Design team. "Necromunda 2.0" implies it uses current 40k rules as a basis, just as Necromunda used 40k 2nd as a basis, which is a huge turnoff.

Oh yeah. Necromunda based on horus heresy rules could be fun. HH being current best rules GW having.

Though still 2nd ed is still better core so hopefully they haven\t messed with rules.

Gah, any 40k variant or version is awful to base any new game on, to be honest. A brand new ruleset would be the best. Absorb some of the innovative mechanics and pushes towards rules elegance that other designers have been striving for since the mid 2000's that GW has deftly avoided.

**Ghaz**

RiTides wrote:
Updated the OP! Poke me about their further reveals - it might be that we need multiple threads for other items (like AoS stuff) if this one gets too unwieldy.

Great to see GW so chatty . Now tell us more about Shadow War: Armageddon!

The current 'AoS General' thread is at 200 pages. We could use a new thread.