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The FB rep said that the rules will be available in ebook form but won't be available for a couple of weeks.

NoggintheNog wrote:
They will be on ebay for £200 next saturday if GW do not announce a future restock beforehand.

It's a box of separately available terrain, old scouts, basic orks and a rulebook that's pretty much a copy of an old and freely available rulebook

Don't be ridiculous.

And you can go to an actual store to buy it.

Am I the only person who knows where one of those is?

Yes, you can go to the store and buy it, if you are one of the lucky few who has a store that is either willing to keep one aside for you or if you are willing to rock up to the store right on opening with everyone else and hope you get your hands on one of the 5 or whatever boxes the store will have.

I am mega devo had to work sold out on me D=

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Well, I'm not a big purchaser of GW products - although I subscribe to WD.

Since the Space Hulk release a year or two ago that my lad saw in my WD and wanted for Christmas, I've kept tabs on the items I've actually *tried to buy* from GW and failed to get on the day of release. I've saved £475 so far. Not counting any further purchases I would have made if I'd had the item I wanted in the first place and gone on to buy more releated stuff.

I guess I should thank GW's lousy business practices for all that money I've been able to spend elsewhere.

So... why didn't you wait for restocks if you actually wanted the items in question?

Because none of them were ever made/reprinted/sold again.

Ah yes, now that I think about it there have been quite a few limited items since 2014. Space Hulk, the campaign boxes (Deathmasque et al), and the army boxed this Christmas. Since they all came with huge discounts I'm guessing they are the types of items you were after. Still, Space Hulk aside, you can still get the contents, just not discounted to the same degree.

Vorian wrote:

NoggintheNog wrote:
They will be on ebay for £200 next saturday if GW do not announce a future restock beforehand.

It's a box of separately available terrain, old scouts, basic orks and a rulebook that's pretty much a copy of an old and freely available rulebook

Don't be ridiculous.

It is.

And it was when it sold out in 10 minutes.

And it still will be when people are putting up for silly money. Because they will, as they have done for every other limited release in the last decade. Once supply is restricted, that is simply what happens.

Supply isn't restricted. Literally everything is available, just not in a discounted bundle.

Unless red templates (which probably will come out anyway) and a hardcopy of a largely free rulebook (which probably will be released as an e version) is worth £100+ to you.

welp... looks like they screwed up on this one then, unless they change their mind and do an unplanned reprint, which they very well might.

Seriously,Kinda Pissed,Was going to buy it today go's to look,and it's all like access denied sold out not available so "not cool" GW they best get the molds heated and make more they are missing out on massive coin while it says the word sold out.

I kinda thought this game was a gateway game to get new players into buying GW stuff.

If all they had to sell a new player was a softback rulebook and 1 box of figures to start gaming, it was less daunting than buying an expensive set of hardback rules, a codex and about 5 boxes minimum.

Once a new player has bought a box and played a while, they'll buy a new set of figures, and so on, till they have enough to get 40k rules and play fully.

By not reprinting, they really are taking a step forward and 2 steps back.

Anyone still doubting it was a fast buck-making, terrain-selling exercise?

The fact that they were 'shocked' that this was popular suggests that GW is still really struggling to understand their customer base.

Weird that they wouldn't already have the eBook ready to go.

Got up for when they went online, got one in my cart and by the time I got to the payment screen it had sold out.

Pretty disappointed, as I was really excited for this.

Same as the other post says, GW replied to my facebook moaning and said that no more box sets coming, it would be a digital book and separate terrain.

Which sadly puts me out of being able to play the game. I wont pay for a digital book that I then need to print out, and I refuse to pay the stupid mark up that people will sell on ebay for.

No problem with buying terrain own its own, even though I know it will cost more than the box set, and probably would have done so even If I had gotten the box set. But sadly wont buy any where near the amount I would have, if I had gotten a copy of the game.

local rep confirmed it was a one shot and done set with only a max of 10 per store.
They originally stated there was going to be no seperate rulebook of any kind, obviously that has changed so who knows.

Reading between the lines of what he said, they intended this for vets to give them somthing to use there armies in when 8th hits.

have the scouts/space marines rules been leaked? would love to see if I can create a kill team without trying to make a whole 10 man squad of ugly scouts look good.

SeanDrake wrote:
local rep confirmed it was a one shot and done set with only a max of 10 per store.
They originally stated there was going to be no seperate rulebook of any kind, obviously that has changed so who knows.

Which really makes you wonder why there was so much effort put into the multiple pages of articles/advertising in a worldwide publication like White Dwarf if they make 10 per store and 19 minutes worth of online sales. That oil rig was probably 10% of the stock manufactured.

What next...
"Warhammer 40,000 8th edition?"
"Sorry, we only printed 50. Maybe wait for 9th edition?"

As I see it, they made two mistakes.

1.They severely underestimated demand for what is essentially one of the most popular games they have ever made outside the core two. I really do think they have no idea who their audience is at this point. (That does not bode well for a complete redesign of the core 40K game, its actually pretty worrying).

2. They appear to have no plans, at all, for releasing the rules as a physical book beyond the limited run boxed game.That makes no sense purely from a commercial level, let alone from the whole 'game that needs other people to play' bit.

Many people will not buy digital books, they are essentially throwing sales away here and restricting the games playerbase deliberately, which for a game company is pretty much insane. They have made some big strides forward in the last 12 months, but as a company, they really need to learn the value of market research, quickly.

GW underestimating the enthusiasm of veteran gamers? Well colour me surprised, this must be a first. (sarcasm)

Maybe if they get enough people commenting with interest, they'll do a run of physical books?

Couldn't hurt to ask right?

So, pre-ordering from Wayland would make zero sense, right.

I hope you can theoretically use the OG Necromunda Rulebook with the team lists. But skills seem different?!

NoggintheNog wrote:
As I see it, they made two mistakes.

1.They severely underestimated demand for what is essentially one of the most popular games they have ever made outside the core two. I really do think they have no idea who their audience is at this point. (That does not bode well for a complete redesign of the core 40K game, its actually pretty worrying).

2. They appear to have no plans, at all, for releasing the rules as a physical book beyond the limited run boxed game.That makes no sense purely from a commercial level, let alone from the whole 'game that needs other people to play' bit.

Many people will not buy digital books, they are essentially throwing sales away here and restricting the games playerbase deliberately, which for a game company is pretty much insane. They have made some big strides forward in the last 12 months, but as a company, they really need to learn the value of market research, quickly.

Don't forget that in an almost unprecedented move they reduced the price before release. It looks to me that it was simply a way of off loading dead stock of ancient ugly models and potentially scenery that won't fit the new art style/scale of 8th (My personal theory is that all these games are being made with models that have not paid off there mold/original production costs and are produced in the exact amounts need.to pay these off also see GoC,Lost Patrol etc)

I am very happy to hear the rule book will get a digital release!

I also notice the PDF download corrects the White Dwarf misprint of Hybrid Heavies (costing 70 points rather than 10).

Can't wait to see how the Special Operative mechanic works!

Seems I got lucky.. I managed to nab one on the GW store before it sold out, and got a second from my preferred online discounter thirty minutes ago as its barely known.. he still has three online as of now.. as he just list's his allocation and once its sold its sold.

Wanted the two for the terrain.. probably will get a couple of the platform kits when they arrive as well.

They don't even have to do a full print run of the rulebook to make it available - they already have the print files (obviously), and the costs for print on demand or automatic stock replenishment are negligible. They could have have it up on the website to order separately from day one. It makes no sense at all that the whole game was apparently a one-shot deal, but I am glad they're backtracking and putting out a PDF version.

richstrach wrote:
They don't even have to do a full print run of the rulebook to make it available - they already have the print files (obviously), and the costs for print on demand or automatic stock replenishment are negligible. They could have have it up on the website to order separately from day one. It makes no sense at all that the whole game was apparently a one-shot deal, but I am glad they're backtracking and putting out a PDF version.

Obviously, you don't really know how print industry works, do you? Minimal offset print run is 500 copies, just to make making print plates and setting up the machine worthy. "On demand" digital print of comparable quality is ridiculously more expensive...

Or this whole lack is simply an elaborate April Fool's joke.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Seems I got lucky.. I managed to nab one on the GW store before it sold out, and got a second from my preferred online discounter thirty minutes ago as its barely known.. he still has three online as of now.. as he just list's his allocation and once its sold its sold.

Wanted the two for the terrain.. probably will get a couple of the platform kits when they arrive as well.

You're part of the problem. Maybe if you know it's limited, don't buy two.

No, he's really not. If he's getting them to use, build and game with, then more power to him for getting a pair from two different sources. If he was buying one to scalp, then I'd think he was an arsehole, but for different reasons.

The blame for "the problem" lies entirely with GW.

Given how all the scenery is scaled and done to fit other recent scenery releases I wouldn't bet on it being no good for the new edition TBH.

Still it's disappointing that a lot of stuff now relies on being forewarned so you can order the moment it's released otherwise you are SOL.....